2020-21 U.S. Ice Dance

dancelion21

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Also possible that the American Gadbois teams weren't assigned to Skate Canada for political reasons. After all, would USFS want them to compete against Gilles/Poirier in front of only Canadian judges?
 

readernick

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Agree. Ice dance is the discipline with the most politics. You don't want your teams to compete in a competition where all the judges are from your rival country.

Additionally, Skate Canada doesn't want the US teams to compete in Canada. The top finishers of these events get a significant amount of money, and even with national bias it would be difficult for SC to put their teams (exception G/P) above the USA teams because they really aren't as good. That means the US teams would likely get prize money that SC wants their own skaters to receive.

Basically, I don't think either country wants to US teams at SC. Additionally, I have heard there is a chance SC might be cancelled. There is a huge wave of cases in Ottawa right now... I believed events of more than 10 people aren't allowed. So, it might not matter anyway.
 

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In the absence of an official statement from any of the parties involved, I do not feel at all certain about what the true (and/or complete) answer to el henry's question is.

Seems very possible -- and understandable -- that it could have been a priority for Skate Canada to find room for more of its own dancers.

Seven couples representing Canada (instead of the usual maximum of three) are invited to Skate Canada International.
(Which of course is allowed by this season's rules. I want to be clear that I am not criticizing Skate Canada.)

There's room for us both to be right, and truth be told, we both probably are.
  • USFSA/NBC really wanted C/B at Skate America.
  • Skate Canada really wanted C/B at Skate America, too.
 

dancelion21

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Madi Chock posted this Instagram video of her and Evan training their Snake FD. It seems to confirm that they are keeping their free dance. I'm glad that they're back training, and look pretty sharp. On one hand, I'm disappointed, since I would've liked new material. On the other hand, it makes sense if they lost a lot of training time due to injury on top of the pandemic. I wonder if this means that they will be getting a new rhythm dance since they said in the IAM live that they have a new program, but didn't specify which one. Of course, it's also possible that they planned for a new free program, but as they trained and realized there wasn't enough time to polish it, they just decided to go back to the old Snake dance. The two of them will be on the Fan Friday takeover tomorrow, so we might get more answers there.

 

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Madi Chock posted this Instagram video of her and Evan training their Snake FD. It seems to confirm that they are keeping their free dance. I'm glad that they're back training, and look pretty sharp. On one hand, I'm disappointed, since I would've liked new material. On the other hand, it makes sense if they lost a lot of training time due to injury on top of the pandemic. I wonder if this means that they will be getting a new rhythm dance since they said in the IAM live that they have a new program, but didn't specify which one. Of course, it's also possible that they planned for a new free program, but as they trained and realized there wasn't enough time to polish it, they just decided to go back to the old Snake dance. The two of them will be on the Fan Friday takeover tomorrow, so we might get more answers there.

I'm going to guess it's the second one, since I believe Romain said all the IAM teams had new FDs. But they could have a new RD, since some teams changed both.
 

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Madi and Zach article ahead of Skate America:


An excerpt:

While off the ice for four months during the shutdown, the pair worked with acrobats in Montreal – socially distanced and outdoors – to help them with their lifts and expand their repertoire of elements so they have a wider selection to choose from in their Olympic season. They eased back into on-ice training once shutdown regulations lifted, knowing that it's too close to the Olympics for them to push too hard and suffer an injury.

Someone had mentioned noticing improvement in their lifts, and this ^^ gives some insight.

And I love this quote from Madi:

"We're trying to stay in the moment and enjoy each day and enjoy skating with each other, because we have something that's very special and we know it's probably not going to be replaced with anything when we retire," Hubbell said. "That feeling of performing and freedom and power and things that we can experience together as a team are irreplaceable, so we're trying to enjoy it day by day."
 

dancelion21

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This ESPN article goes pretty in-depth about how the US ice dance teams trained during the pandemic.

A few interesting notes:
Madison Chock was injured for two weeks during the summer, and she and Evan missed another two weeks of training due quarantining from being exposed to COVID-19 (thankfully neither are sick). They originally planned to have a new free dance, but decided to go back to their free dance from last season since they felt there wasn't enough time to polish a new FD. They opted to withdraw from Skate America in order to have more training time and avoid another two-week quarantine.

Caroline Green trained with her brother, Gordon, in the spring when she couldn't train with Michael Parsons.

Hawayek/Baker started working on their new programs earlier, since a rink in Buffalo opened earlier, and they were able to rent the ice.
 
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