2020 Skate America: Senior GP Predictions Game Round 1

[CaroLiza_fan]

I don't always use the first 3 letters, I use whatever catches my fancy in a moment of scoring Of course I make sure, that there is not the same combination on skater list, but I advise to put full surnames, just in case

That's why I used the words "probably" and "usually". It's good to always have a get-out clause!

As always, the best advice I can give players is just to copy and paste the names straight from the Entry Lists. That way, there is no ambiguity, as we are all singing from the same hymn sheet. (Plus, it eliminates the issues associated with names that were originally in different alphabets being able to be transliterated into Latin characters in different ways).

And can I just take this opportunity to thank you and the other members that have volunteered to score at the last minute. I really appreciate it.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[Moxiejan]

Men
1. Nathan Chen
2. Vincent Zhou
3. Tomoki Hiwatashi
4. Alexei Krasnozhon
5. Keegan Messing
6. Camden Pulkinen

Ladies
1. Mariah Bell
2. Bradie Tennell
3. Amber Glenn
4. Karen Chen
5. Starr Andrews
6. Gracie Gold

Pairs
1. Ashley Cain-Gribble/Timothy LeDuc
2. Jessica Calalang/Brian Johnson
3. Alexa Scimeca Knierim/Brandon Frazier
4. Tarah Kayne/Danny O'Shea
5. Audrey Lu/Misha Mitrofanov
6. Olivia Serafini/Mervin Tran

Dance
1. Madison Hubbell/Zachary Donohue
2. Kaitlin Hawayek/Jean-Luc Baker
3. Christina Carreira/Anthony Ponomarenko
4. Caroline Green/Michael Parsons
5. Lorraine McNamara/Anton Spiridonov
6. Eva Pate/Logan Bye

 

[TheMightyBidoof]

Men:
1. Nathan CHEN
2. Vincent ZHOU
3. Keegan MESSING
4. Tomoki HIWATASHI
5. Camden PULKINEN
6. Alexei BYCHENKO


Ladies:
1. Mariah BELL
2. Bradie TENNELL
3. Amber GLENN
4. Karen CHEN
5. Starr ANDREWS
6. Pooja KALYAN


Pairs:
1. Jessica CALALANG / Brian JOHNSON
2. Ashley CAIN-GRIBBLE / Timothy LEDUC
3. Alexa SCIMECA KNIERIM / Brandon FRAZIER
4. Tarah KAYNE / Danny O'SHEA
5. Audrey LU / Misha MITROFANOV
6. Olivia SERAFINI / Mervin TRAN


Dance:
1. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
2. Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER
3. Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO
4. Caroline GREEN / Michael PARSONS
5. Lorraine MCNAMARA / Anton SPIRIDONOV
6. Molly CESANEK / Yehor YEHOROV

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Just a wee hint.

I am currently making out my my predictions, and I found out by chance that the only skater not representing the USA in the Ladies, LIN Shan (CHN), is actually Ashley LIN, who was impressive in the Junior GP's and Senior B's a couple of years ago when she was representing the USA.

In general, her scores were very similar to Starr Andrews'. Although, because of being under embargo due to the country switch, she hasn't had any international competitions for a while.

So, don't let the unfamiliar name catch you out. She is worth looking at.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Firstly, can I just say that I was not expecting to be making predictions at all this season.

Every year when it comes to the Predictions Games, there are two rounds I always dread making predictions on. The first is Canadian Nationals, because the website I use for past results does not include Canadian domestic competitions.

The other is American Nationals. And the reason is that there are so many skaters that I have never heard tell of, never mind seen. This is not a reflection of the skaters themselves. It is a reflection of the sheer size of the pool in America.

When it comes to international slots, it tends to be the same skaters that get called up. So, you get to know these skaters very well. Of course, this is also the case with many other Feds. The difference is when you come to Nationals. With most countries, you generally find that it is the same skaters that are joining the top names every year. And you also get to know them over time. But in America, this is often not the case. From one year to the next, the names you see competing at Nationals can be very different. So, you don’t get to know the supporting cast like you do in other countries.

A lot of people have been describing this year’s Skate America as a mini-Nationals. And that is pretty much true. Consequently, I am having the same problems making predictions as I do with Nationals.

Because of all this, my predictions are largely based on absolute PB’s. (For new partnerships, I took the mean of the two skaters’ absolute PB’s with their former partners).

I did stray from it in one instance. In Pairs. I want Ash and Tim to win! And since their absolute PB (from winning 2019 Nationals) was only 1.21 behind Jessica and Brian’s absolute PB (from being runners up at 2020 Nationals), I went with my heart.

CaroLiza_fan


SKATE AMERICA

Ladies

1. Bradie TENNELL, USA
2. Mariah BELL, USA
3. Karen CHEN, USA
4. Gracie GOLD, USA
5. Amber GLENN, USA
6. Starr ANDREWS, USA
7. Shan LIN, CHN
8. Audrey SHIN, USA
9. Sierra VENETTA, USA
10. Paige RYDBERG, USA
11. Pooja KALYAN, USA
12. Finley HAWK, USA

Men

1. Nathan CHEN, USA
2. Vincent ZHOU, USA
3. Tomoki HIWATASHI, USA
4. Keegan MESSING, CAN
5. Alexei BYCHENKO, ISR
6. Alexei KRASNOZHON, USA
7. Daniel SAMOHIN, ISR
8. Camden PULKINEN, USA
9. Maxim NAUMOV, USA
10. Jimmy MA, USA
11. Ilia MALININ, USA
12. Joseph KANG, USA

Pairs

1. Ashley CAIN-GRIBBLE / Timothy LEDUC, USA
2. Jessica CALALANG / Brian JOHNSON, USA
3. Alexa SCIMECA KNIERIM / Brandon FRAZIER, USA
4. Tarah KAYNE / Danny O'SHEA, USA
5. Audrey LU / Misha MITROFANOV, USA
6. Olivia SERAFINI / Mervin TRAN, USA
7. Anna VERNIKOV / Evgeni KRASNOPOLSKI, ISR
8. Emily CHAN / Spencer Akira HOWE, USA

Ice Dance

1. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE, USA
2. Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER, USA
3. Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO, USA
4. Caroline GREEN / Michael PARSONS, USA
5. Lorraine MCNAMARA / Anton SPIRIDONOV, USA
6. Eva PATE / Logan BYE, USA
7. Molly CESANEK / Yehor YEHOROV, USA
8. Emily MONAGHAN / Ilias FOURATI, HUN

 

[LadyB]

Men
1. Nathan Chen
2. Vincent Zhou
3. Keegan Messing
4. Tomoki Hiwatashi
5. Camden Pulkinen
6. Alexei Krasnozhon

Ladies
1. Mariah Bell
2. Bradie Tennell
3. Karen Chen
4. Starr Andrews
5. Amber Glenn
6. Gracie Gold

Pairs
1. Calalang/Johnson
2. Cain-Gribble/Leduc
3. Kayne/O’Shea
4. Scimeca-Knierim/Frazier
5. Vernikov/Krasnopolski
6. Lu/Mitrofanov

Ice Dance
1. Hubbell/Donohue
2. Hawayek/Baker
3. Carreira/Ponomarenko
4. McNamara/Spiridonov
5. Green/Parsons
6. Pate/Bye

 

[YuBluByMe]

Heh, this is what I was waiting for.

Men
1. Nathan CHEN
2. Vincent ZHOU
3. Tomoki HIWATASHI
4. Keegan MESSING
5. Alexei BYCHENKO
6. Alexei KRASNOZHON
7. Maxim NAUMOV
8. Camden PULKINEN

Ladies
1. Mariah BELL
2. Bradie TENNELL
3. Ambee GLENN
4. Karen CHEN
5. Gracie GOLD
6. Starr ANDREWS
7. Pooja KALYAN

Pairs
1. Jessica CALALANG/Brian JOHNSON
2. Alexa SCIMECA-KNIERIM/Brandon FRAZIER
3. Ashley CAIN-GRIBBLE/Timothy LEDUC
4. Tarah KAYNE/Danny O’SHEA
5. Audrey LU/Misha MILIOFANEV
6. Olivia SERAFIN/Mervin TRAN

Ice Dance
1. Madison HUBBELL/Zachary DONOHUE
2. Kaitlin HAWAYEK/Jean-Luc BAKER
3. Christina CARREIRA/Anthony PONOMARENKO
4. Caroline GREEN/Michael Parson
5. Lorraine MCNAMARA/Anton SPIRIDONOV
6. Eva PATE/Logan BYE

 

[Koatterce]

Men:
1. Nathan Chen
2. Vincent Zhou
3. Keegan Messing
4. Tomoki Hiwatashi
5. Alexei Krasnozhon
6. Alexei Bychenko

Ladies:
1. Mariah Bell
2. Bradie Tennell
3. Amber Glenn
4. Karen Chen
5. Starr Andrews
6. Gracie Gold

Pairs:
1. Jessica Calalang / Brian Johnson
2. Alexa Scimeca Knierim / Brandon Frazier
3. Ashley Cain-Gribble / Timothy Leduc
4. Tarah Kayne / Danny O'Shea
5. Audrey Lu / Misha Mitrofanov
6. Olivia Serafini / Mervin Tran

Dance:
1. Madison Hubbell / Zachary Donohue
2. Kaitlin Hawayek / Jean-Luc Baker
3. Christina Carreira / Anthony Ponomarenko
4. Caroline Green / Michael Parsons
5. Lorraine McNamara / Anton Spiridonov
6. Molly Cesanek / Yehor Yehorov

 

[cake]

Here are men´s results.

It was nice to see so many familiar names again on the scoring sheet and to welcome some new ones. I hope everybody is doing well.
Surprisingly everybody predicted the winner. Special mention goes to Shakuhachi who was the only person to put Malinin in the top five.

The winner with 70 points is itofan

Silver with 65 points goes to
FayD
haribobo
invisiblespiral
Jeanie19
Koatterce
NYscorp6
SnowWhite
TeamGubanova

Bronze with 60 points goes to
Alex65
apgold
CaroLiza_fan
CrazyKittenLady
GoneWithTheWind
Hyena
LadyB
Lunalovesskating
macy
norwegianfairytale
Pandicorn
StitchMonkey
sworddance21
TheMightyBidoof
vesperalvioletta
YuBluByMe

Congrats to all medallists!

 

[Moxiejan]

Here are the ladies' results!

The key to a top-top score wasn't picking Mariah-Bradie-Karen to go 1-2-4 (many did, including most of those who won bronze with 50 points), but in having Shan Lin or Audrey Shin in the Top 5. Lots of players lost points by having Amber in a Top 3 position and/or having Starr in the Top 5.

The gold-medal winners with 60 points are cabres, Gia Sesshoumaru and TeamGubanova.

Silver with 55 points are: Hyena, itofan, LadyB, purplecat and Shakhuhachi.

Bronze with 50 points are: Alex65, alyssamarie, apgold, Artemisa, cake, dancelion21, Dreamer57, invisiblespiral, elektra blue, Koatterce, ladyjane, lariko, Lunalovesskating, lutz, Moxiejan, Sherlock Marple, SnowWhite, StitchMonkey, TheMightyBidoof, TontoK, vesperalvioletta and YuBluByMe.

Congrats to all medalists!
All results are now in the spreadsheet. If I have made a scoring error, please PM me & I will fix. Thanks to all!

 

[Gia_Sesshoumaru]

Sweet, a gold medal. Woot! I'll take it.

 

[LadyB]

A silver in Ladies and bronze in Men! What a start!!!!

I'm doing Ice Dance tonight, was too tired yesterday

 

[Moxiejan]

A silver in Ladies and bronze in Men! What a start!!!!

I'm doing Ice Dance tonight, was too tired yesterday

Just look for all the perfect scores for gold, lol.
I already know my 70 is good enough only for silver.

 

[cathlen]

Due to the amount of participants who didn't bother to:
a) check the spelling of surnames
b) to write a FULL last name of Alexa and sometimes Ashley
This is the last time I'm scoring in this game. It takes additional time to check the mistakes and correcting them, so they will fit in formula and it show that you don't respect the work the scorers do voluntarily. Thank you to all, who can read rules and follow them.

Here's the PAIRS results!

GOLD medal goes to: Alex65, TeamGubanova, TontoK with 65 points
SILVER medal goes to: lariko and Lunalovesskating with 60 points
BRONZE medal goes to: CrazyKittenLady, GoneWithTheWind, macy, readernick, Roo87 with 55 points!
Congrats!

You can check your scores is spreadsheet:

2020 Senior Grand Prix Predictions Game Scoresheet

Game Summary Username,Total Points,Skate America,Skate Canada,Cup Of China,Trophée de France,Cup Of Russia,NHK Trophy,Senior Grand Prix Final 4everchan,325,0,0,225,0,0,100,0 Alex65,780,250,0,255,0,170,105,0 alyssamarie,470,185,0,0,0,180,105,0 Antoine,300,0,0,0,0,175,125,0 apgold,775,230,0,240,0,190

docs.google.com

If you spot a mistake in score, let me know in PM.

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Due to the amount of participants who didn't bother to:
a) check the spelling of surnames
b) to write a FULL last name of Alexa and sometimes Ashley
This is the last time I'm scoring in this game. It takes additional time to check the mistakes and correcting them, so they will fit in formula and it show that you don't respect the work the scorers do voluntarily. Thank you to all, who can read rules and follow them.

I am so sorry. I guess I didn't help when trying to be re-assuring that time when somebody missed out Tim's surname.

Personally, I don't mind making the odd correction. But when there are a whole pile of mistakes, and they are the same mistakes, it is so frustrating. Especially since (as I say every year) there is a simple way of completely avoiding mistakes - copying and pasting directly from the entry lists.

I don't think the players appreciate just how much small mistakes increases the amount of time it takes to do the scoring.

So, whenever subsequent Predictions Threads are opened, could all players please be more careful over name spellings.

Thank you.

And sorry again that this has not been an enjoyable experience for you, cathlen.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[LadyB]

Ice Dance results are in!

Gold with 75 points:
Alex65
apgold
cabres
CrazyKittenLady
dancelion21
FayD
Gia_Sesshoumaru
Gourlie
haribobo
Hyena
katymay
Lunalovesskating
lutz
macy
purplecat
Shakuhachi
SnowWhite
sworddance21
vesperalvioletta

Silver with 70 points:
Artemisa
cake
CaroLiza_fan
Chris Cooper
elektra blue
gsk8
invisiblespiral
Kittosuni
Koatterce
Moxiejan
NYscorp6
Pandicorn
readernick
Sherlock Marple
skylark
sweetener
TeamGubanova
TheMightyBidoof
TontoK
YuBluByMe


Bronze with 65 points:
Dream57
GoneWithTheWind
Roo87

Congrats to all!!!!!

Anything wrong, please PM me.

 

[Lunalovesskating]

Omg one gold, one silver and two bronzes. I think never got so many medals in one competition

 

[Gia_Sesshoumaru]

Sweet, another gold medal. I'll take it!

 

[elektra blue]

bronze in ladies (to think i beliebed i Brezined it ) and silver in dance! yay me! congratulations to the other medalists and thank you to the scorers, we'd be lost without you

 

[apgold]

I'm happy with one gold and two bronze. Thanks for holding and scoring the prediction game and providing a nice distraction!

Congrats to the medalists!