I still think Charlie and Co. are a work in progress as choreographers and coaches. Scott Moir, Lambiel, Abbott, Buttle, et al were great skaters but coaching - transferring/teaching skill, artistry and inspiring/motivating and get the best out of their students takes talent, effort and maybe some education. Being a great skater does not mean great coach necessarily. Buttle, Bourne, Krylova, Dubreil and Lauzon, Orser, Ravi Walia, to a point Tracey Wainman, The Ponamarenko's ??? (I am having a brain freeze - 1992 dance champs), Tarasova, Mishkin,ae some examples of success. I do like that not everyone is going to IAM. As much as there are complaints about team Tuber. one could say the same as IAM - do we want to have so much power with one school. one day IAM will come to pass and they will b like Shipland or Zueva. Coaches are kind of like fashion I guess. Not everyone has the longeivity of a Frank Carroll or Carlo fassi.