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Donât worry. All of the other âtoe-loopsâ in ghe article were âsheepskin coatsâ. I guess it was just an anomaly or something.Oh no! I don't want Google Translate to develop. I love "sheepskin coat"
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I mean sure. People have boundary issues online. Personally, though, I have yet to figure out why we were being served with a smorgasbord of videos about her injury/non-injury/whatever we are supposed to think about it now. What was the actual point? And why did whichever journalist or telegram hooligan run with it? And why are there long posts still discussing it and "defending" random coaches and skaters on this thread, and the fan fest of the skater concerned, with "research" and "evidence" which can basically be summed up as "obsession". Do you not see how it looks or...?
In general, why is there this obsession with posting every single second of the life of a bunch of junior girls on multiple accounts? Not just even Plushenko. It is horrid. If the adults had any interest in protecting these children from online trolls, they'd at least take the first step and log off.
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Lol, tf is this text. Whoâs gaslighting which 13 year olds?
And who said anything about abuse?Is anyone here talking to Veronika?
can she read English?it wasnât me who said itâs more serious, itâs people in the thread, I merely said that itâs what they were discussing. I simply wanted to put the record straight about what Plushenko said himself, because you got it wrong.
Anyways, you sound like you need some rest, maybe moreso than Nika
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Plush announced an injury of his student as to why she wouldnât be attending an international competition, and a bunch of people ran with it, leading to him posting clarifying content as an addendum. Is he the most tactful with his student management? No not really. But I think making professional announcements on behalf of your underaged skater are significantly different than speculating abusive environments when not backed up by the skaters themselves.
Sasha liking or not liking a comment about Eteriâs environment being abusing for example warrants speculation because she is the skater in said environment, not some random hit piece journalist looking for clicks.
The fan fests border on obsessive to me but I would presume most of the participants, like those in her fan clubs are likewise children. Remember Aliona and that creepy dude stalking her? Acceptable behavior for a 12 year old who isnât making suggestive remarks, but if I was secretly some 45 year old man on here talking about how beautiful she is in a compendium of 30 photos would be weird.
In general I think the whole idea of these forums can attract super toxic individuals who take peopleâs careers way to seriously. They should be here to discuss the quality of skating and programs, well wishes, etc. not to fixate on every small detail of a CHILDâS personal life. Thatâs especially true when people start making comments about coaching staff intentionally and/or needlessly harming their students when they are 6 degrees of separation from the rink.
Making "professional announcements" is different from posting videos repeatedly and documenting daily life. And as I said, it's not just him, it's a lot of people.
I don't have much else to say. I have little interest in reading novel-length posts about how WELL ACTUALLY this and that was perfectly fine with "evidence". Something happened, people reacted.
Oh, how I wish that were true, about some of these "researchers".
Now, if we can focus on the skating that will happen again, at some point, soon enough, that would be great.
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Is Veronika out for all of the JGP or would she be going to a later one?
Or we don't know???
Or we don't know???
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She's out. They said they expect her to return to competition in January or February.
Funny. When such discussions were going on about the Tutberidze group, everything was fine. A huge number of posters on various forums (including this one) an infinite number of times searched for abusing in the Tutberidze group (how did Kira Korpi write? now I will Google " The Tutberidze Factory is a sign of the inhuman culture that our sport accepts. ", oh yes, old Kira Korpi burns)
But it was worth touching on the Plushenko group - Oh! how many immediately started talking differently
"13 year old", "you are stalkers" (And this is despite the fact that, unlike Eteri, where people just fantasized tall tales, everything is clearly shown - how children with injuries skate on ice.)
Shall we speak directly? Personally, I like to talk directly You don't like Tutberidze because she is our flagship, who turned russian women's figure skating into an irresistible force. This and only this is her greatest sin in your eyes. And Plushenko is the one who puts sticks in her wheels and your sudden love for him of most of you is based on this.
But it was worth touching on the Plushenko group - Oh! how many immediately started talking differently
"13 year old", "you are stalkers" (And this is despite the fact that, unlike Eteri, where people just fantasized tall tales, everything is clearly shown - how children with injuries skate on ice.)Shall we speak directly? Personally, I like to talk directly
You don't like Tutberidze because she is our flagship, who turned russian women's figure skating into an irresistible force. This and only this is her greatest sin in your eyes. And Plushenko is the one who puts sticks in her wheels and your sudden love for him of most of you is based on this.
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This is laughable considering the reason I even got back into watching figure skating as an adult who hadnât known anything about it since I was 4 or 5 watching the olympics with my mom was because of the Eteri camp. A video of Zagitovaâs Don Quixote at the Olympics was recommended to me on YouTube, and from there I found Zhenya and the 3A who are still my favorites of all time. I have no care for one coach or the other, think Kira is out of line in her discussion or again an environment she is not in just for clout, stopped watching the Skating Lesson because of a similar gossipy, dramatic, speculative style of skating discourse, and have significant respect for Eteri who reminds me very much of my favorite coaches from high school.Funny. When such discussions were going on about the Tutberidze group, everything was fine. A huge number of posters on various forums (including this one) an infinite number of times searched for abusing in the Tutberidze group (how did Kira Korpi write? now I will Google " The Tutberidze Factory is a sign of the inhuman culture that our sport accepts. ", oh yes, old Kira Korpi burns)
But it was worth touching on the Plushenko group - Oh! how many immediately started talking differently
Shall we speak directly? Personally, I like to talk directly
This nonsense about preference of coaches due to hatred of another is silly and childish. Why would I hate someone who has renewed my interest in skating, brought back for me an old hobby with my mom, etc.
Very absurd dichotomy always presented here.
Anyways, Iâm wishing Veronika a speedy recovery, and I look forward to seeing her back on the ice. Itâs a shame her first competition went well and mow sheâs out.
I really have nothing more to add.
Slightly off-topic maybe, but I read this wrong and thought you were saying that you got into figure skating because you found Alina's Olympic Don Quixote when you were 4 or 5. I almost got sad because "Wow, 2018 was so long ago? I'm getting old..." and then realised that wasn't quite right and snapped out of it.
I need more sleep.
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Noelle Streuliâs cut of Vivaldiâs Seasons makes me more sad for Alionaâs. I think it displays the nature of the four compositions so much better, even if it only has Summer and Winter. Also that opening really suits her style of skating better.
Just really makes you realize how questionable some of the music cuts coming from Sambo are sometimes
Just really makes you realize how questionable some of the music cuts coming from Sambo are sometimes
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Zhulin said that senior girls are lucky theyâre not competing against her, cause she would drink their blood.Blessed we are by SuperSonic
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Hey, didn't he say something containing blood in the past already?Zhulin said that senior girls are lucky theyâre not competing against her, cause she would drink their blood.
She just wins too much, so all the spotlight is on her. It isn't that she doesn't have flaws, but it's the fact that other coaches too have them but don't get bashed the same.Shall we speak directly? Personally, I like to talk directly
Undestood this when Alysa Liu started landing quads at the very same age than Trusova but her coach didn't get the same outrage.
When some famous coach got students complaining about physical abuses very publicly but it didn't cause an outrage.
When another coach said that one of his teenage students who had just left him was mentally ill and that another was lazy af and no outrage again.
When other coaches are building factories of 11yo quadsters but it isn't a problem.
When other skaters are having severe back injuries and serious mental health issues but we only see Eteri's ones.
When other coaches get several injured skaters or skaters who lost too much weight but no one bat an eye. I mean if Sinitsyna was an Eteri's student the drama would have had no end.
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