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Interesting Interview with Shcherbakova has a lot of great information, she's certainly got a great mindset it seems -- she talks about the neck patch from Budapest, online commentary about her performances, her thoughts on her programs, her future. I'm very impressed with how she talks about her FS and doing research to convey the image on ice

***Disclaimer: This is via Google Translate, nothing seems strange reading it but always like to disclaimer I'm posting google translated information :biggrin:

- So you have a certain zeal for complicating the content?
- I always work at my maximum. If I feel that there is an opportunity, then I always go to this jump. And I do not compare myself with others, I start only from my capabilities.

- Is there a certain maximum content that you can reach this season?
- I will not evaluate it somehow. For today I have my maximum, and I showed it. Perhaps tomorrow I will have more opportunities, something new will turn out and the maximum will be more, and the set will be more difficult. I will not guess.

- Does the injury bother you?
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Yes, I want to say that nothing bothers me at all. Everything is fine, I am working at full strength, nothing interferes.

- In Budapest there was a huge plaster on the neck, which many discussed.
- There is no such athlete who would do without injuries. There are serious injuries, and there are minor ones - you don't even need to stop training. Coincidentally, it was at the time of the competition in Hungary that I had such a minor injury, and this patch was used as a treatment.

But this is just a short period of time when it was necessary to undergo a little medical treatment, perhaps not to do some strong deflections. But everyone healed, and now everything is fine. These are such trifles that athletes constantly meet in training, it just coincided that at that moment there was a competition, and it went out to the public.
- How do you feel about your programs now?
- This season we have picked up very interesting images. About the free one I can say that this is an exact hit - exactly what I would like. There is no doubt about it at all. In addition, this is a program with a calm beginning, but a dynamic second half. That is, there is a change of image, emotions, character.

The short program has a very experimental image. Of course, all this will still be finalized and now is only the beginning of the season. Therefore, with each start, the programs should be more and more refined from all sides. Emotionally, technically, and choreographically, of course, there will be some changes.

- It is probably not easy for a 17-year-old man from a wonderful family to show the tragedy.
- For me it comes more from the inside: I have always liked not just the program as learned movements to skate, but to do it with soul, emotionally.

I read a lot, not just a book, but specifically about the image of Margarita. I was very impressed. It seems to me that I even have some common points, perhaps somewhere in my character or something I feel for myself. Therefore, I try to convey this not just faked, but with my heart. And try to invest yourself in this program.
- What amazed you when you came to Tutberidze?
- The world of figure skating has turned upside down for me: life in sports was divided into before and after. Before that, I was small and unconsciously approached him. I go out for training, I like everything, the trainer put on the Pink Panther program - I'm happy.

I always loved competitions, to look at the judges and smile ... It was a child's version of perception. With Eteri Georgievna, I gradually became more conscious, because in her group you can't come and do something for your pleasure. The coach immediately lays down to you: if you come, then you must have a goal in your head.

It is necessary to treat the matter professionally, which I had never thought about before. I didn’t want to finish, but I also didn’t think about the global future. And it was in Tutberidze's group that I realized that I wanted to practice figure skating professionally.
 
Interesting Interview with Shcherbakova has a lot of great information, she's certainly got a great mindset it seems -- she talks about the neck patch from Budapest, online commentary about her performances, her thoughts on her programs, her future. I'm very impressed with how she talks about her FS and doing research to convey the image on ice

***Disclaimer: This is via Google Translate, nothing seems strange reading it but always like to disclaimer I'm posting google translated information :biggrin:
I know she means no shade but she is not EXACTLY sold on that SP yet. But she'll continue to perform the hell out of it. Queen of the diplomatic answer!
 
Considering that zhenya only saw the doctor after even pain killers didnt help anymore?And skated two gp events with a broken ankle and fully trained until then ? I do hope you are right and they learnt from 4 years ago, as of know i am still not sure.for sashas sake i hope they changed on that aspect,
I don’t know why you keep saying she kept skating and didn’t see a doctor until the end of GP, when this is clearly untrue.
Here‘s Evgenia‘s own account of events:

She started feeling some pain shortly before her Moscow GP, and 2-3 days right before the start of the competition the pain started getting stronger. She saw a Russian doctor right there and then before Moscow GP. Right after Moscow GP she went to a doctor in Germany to get another opinion. The German doctor gave them treatment, which they followed, she didn’t train fully in that time period. Before NHK she felt better, that’s why they went on to compete there. After NHK SP she felt worse again, and when the competition was over they went straight to a Japanese doctor, while they were in Japan.
After that she went to Russian doctors again, and was taking time off and waiting for the approval from the Russian doctors to compete at GPF, and if you can read, she says she hopes they’ll allow her to do that.

So I don’t know where you’re getting info that she didn’t see any doctors and trained fully until the end of her second GP, or maybe Evgenia was lying because Eteri told her at gun point to make up the stories about all these doctors?

 
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Interesting Interview with Shcherbakova has a lot of great information, she's certainly got a great mindset it seems -- she talks about the neck patch from Budapest, online commentary about her performances, her thoughts on her programs, her future. I'm very impressed with how she talks about her FS and doing research to convey the image on ice

***Disclaimer: This is via Google Translate, nothing seems strange reading it but always like to disclaimer I'm posting google translated information :biggrin:

Always happy to contribute to the praise Anna bucket!!

- Does the injury bother you?
- Yes, I want to say that nothing bothers me at all. Everything is fine, I am working at full strength, nothing interferes.

Right here, sums up why she is where she is.
And why you never count her out. Ever. On one leg or lung you still don’t count her out.

If you follow sports, it’s not hard to tell who the warriors are.

And her quote about TT should be memorized by everyone. Coaches are there to get you to meet your goals.

Make no mistake, Anna is EVERYTHING that is right about sports!

Hope my praise Anna post measured up to her lofty standards. If not, I can raise the praise a few more degrees. Haha
 
Always happy to contribute to the praise Anna bucket!!

- Does the injury bother you?
- Yes, I want to say that nothing bothers me at all. Everything is fine, I am working at full strength, nothing interferes.

Right here, sums up why she is where she is.
And why you never count her out. Ever. On one leg or lung you still don’t count her out.

If you follow sports, it’s not hard to tell who the warriors are.

And her quote about TT should be memorized by everyone. Coaches are there to get you to meet your goals.

Make no mistake, Anna is EVERYTHING that is right about sports!

Hope my praise Anna post measured up to her lofty standards. If not, I can raise the praise a few more degrees. Haha
Haha, I do have a small request: not about Anna, but, but, how about write something encouraging and in support of Aliona? (tough love does not count) Only after that can I see your true face, :ROFLMAO: I'll give you a hint to get started: she almost restored her 3A.
 
Haha, I do have a small request: not about Anna, but, but, how about write something encouraging and in support of Aliona? (tough love does not count) Only after that can I see your true face, :ROFLMAO: I'll give you a hint to get started: she almost restored her 3A.

Haha. Of course.

She was the best skater on earth not too long ago, so it’s not like she doesn’t know what it takes to win. And there is no reason she can’t be in the mix today. None.

Her being great again is good for the skaters that don’t have quads.

I know nobody believes me, but I don’t hate her. I do want her to get back to her best. Who doesn’t want more skaters in the medal mix? I know I do.

I’d give her the biggest hug ever if I ever meet her. Of course she would punch me in the face after reading what I wrote about her in return, but what can you do? Haha

Maybe we are harder on her because we know she isn’t an average skater and don’t want to see her potential wasted. When you are a champion, there are certain expectations on you that there aren’t on others. That’s just the way it is.

Nobody would care if it was some skater that hasn’t done anything.

And she has the bonus of being very marketable obviously.

How was that? Haha

Oh, and she is definitely on the top tier when it comes to having passionate fans. I learned that this week. Haha
 
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I believe you.


:ROFLMAO:
Haha, I am a fan of:
No.1: Alina Zagitova
No.2: Eteri + Daniiil + Dudakov
No.3: Other Eteri girls and boys

Don’t have to worry about Zagitova. Her fans are even more rabid. I’m not fighting with her. Haha

But joking aside, Zagitova has to be considered a master strategist. I’ll explain.

First, she won Olympic gold by utilizing superior tactics. If she doesn’t backload the program, she doesn’t win. It’s that simple.

Then after that, she left on her terms, while still being at the top, and for 4 years has been teasing everyone about a return that won’t happen.

Then post skating, she was able to get some plum jobs and endorsements and has monetized that gold medal spectacularly.

Plus, she still has the “golden girl” image, can fight off any scandals and controversies (real or imagined), managed to keep her private life private and is generally doing everything on her terms.

Can’t ask for more than that.
 
I'm sorry, but Lorenzo Marie is actually saying that, not we are. He actually opposes Tuktamysheva to Shcherbakova. He clearly explains this by saying that "they are not yet developed as women to fully express their emotions."

I'm trying to remember what kind of special artistry and musicality Tuktamysheva has? Maybe she once portrayed complex images, with deep involvement in the role, with complex choreography, which she had enough skill and musicality to show? Sorry, I can't remember that. But what I remember is that Tuktamysheva always masks her relatively weak abilities by kitschy sexualization of her image. Then I read Lorenzo Mari again - "...to fully express their emotions". In my opinion, what the coach says is obvious, no?

Why suddenly 24-year-old Tuktamysheva is an adult, and 17-year-old Anna is not? Just because Liza is sexualizing herself? Seriously? I have seen Liza behave like a moody teenager more than once (for example, her gestures to the judges in Finland a couple of years ago), and vice versa, I constantly see Anna's responsible behavior. I've heard them say in interviews - Anna speaks in a way that most adults are not incapable of speaking (at all times, rhetorical abilities were perceived as a distinctive feature of an intellectually developed, capable person), Liza, on the other hand, uses a rather superficial uncomplicated language of a typical teenager.

For me, Anna is a more mature person than Tuktamysheva, and cheap tricks with hypersexualization will not deceive me. But Lorenzo is not interested in all these things - he only needs " fully express their emotions."
Yeah liza the sex monster🤣
 
I'm not sure getting more tattoos and doing non commercial photoshoots is the right way to show commitment in an Eteri camp. Considering how much you're stuttering compared to the other girls. Yeah I get its her own life but why go through a grovelling apology and acknowlegde you need Eteri discipline and then end up slacking. I remember Evgenia in her olympic season was off instagram until the olympics ended except for 1 promotion post.
 
I'm not sure getting more tattoos and doing non commercial photoshoots is the right way to show commitment in an Eteri camp. Considering how much you're stuttering compared to the other girls. Yeah I get its her own life but why go through a grovelling apology and acknowlegde you need Eteri discipline and then end up slacking. I remember Evgenia in her olympic season was off instagram until the olympics ended except for 1 promotion post.

Maybe we are looking at it the wrong way.

Maybe she doesn’t want to fight for her spot and is slowly transitioning to a modeling/influencer career.

The Little Liza method. Transitioning slowly from a skating career.

Absolutely nothing wrong with that. I’ve stated many times that I would make money off my looks if I had looks. I don’t so there goes my modeling career. Haha
 
Maybe we are looking at it the wrong way.

Maybe she doesn’t want to fight for her spot and is slowly transitioning to a modeling/influencer career.

The Little Liza method. Transitioning slowly from a skating career.

Absolutely nothing wrong with that. I’ve stated many times that I would make money off my looks if I had looks. I don’t so there goes my modeling career. Haha
I also wonder if Nugumanova is also ready to move on to the next chapter of her life. She didn't seem to be at all upset at her skate today, or yesterday-more of a 'oh well' type shrug. I saw her in the background greeting children and signing autographs-her smile really lights up the rink, and she just seems so dang nice. I can see her being very marketable in ice shows, commercial work, TV work etc. She is a beautiful skater, just not competitive tech wise, but so many fans really go to see the type of skating she puts on the ice.
 
I'm not sure getting more tattoos and doing non commercial photoshoots is the right way to show commitment in an Eteri camp. Considering how much you're stuttering compared to the other girls. Yeah I get its her own life but why go through a grovelling apology and acknowlegde you need Eteri discipline and then end up slacking. I remember Evgenia in her olympic season was off instagram until the olympics ended except for 1 promotion post.
If her days off become distractions, sure. But uhhhh-- who cares how she spends her free time? Especially if it's mentally rejuvenating? Not everything needs to be about money. And Aliona is not the only one enjoying her time off. Kamila posts all the time, as does Anna. I think both have posted photos/videos of how they spend their free time this season. You think that their days off they just spend time at the Eteri alter praying to her figurine for intercession with the skating gods?
 
Could somebody in the know please say what are Davydov skaters Yana L, Ksenia Ts. and Anna F. up to this season? Is it so that Anna is serving her time out prior to representing a neighbouring country? tia
 
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