2021-22 Russian Women's Figure Skating

[AlexBreeze]

I know. That's what makes me wonder what was really going on with this gossip earlier on and the news now .... still, one way or another, Nika and Sofia A. will not face each other in Gdansk ....
I hope it is not any serious injury though and that we will see NIka at some later JGP stage if that turns out possible

She can't go to the 7th JGP. She isn't even a substitute.

 

[nussnacker]

But didn't someone here claim that Nika was to change places with Sofia M. for their second JGP placements to avoid Nika nad Sofia A. meeting too early? Hmmm....

I know. That's what makes me wonder what was really going on with this gossip earlier on and the news now .... still, one way or another, Nika and Sofia A. will not face each other in Gdansk ....
I hope it is not any serious injury though and that we will see NIka at some later JGP stage if that turns out possible

FYI, I said maybe it’s health situation or “strategy”. And I did not “claim” anything, my dear.
Try reading it more attentively.

Idk, makes no sense to me. Maybe some health situation, maybe he doesn’t want Zhilina vs Akatieva showdown before JGPF.

They were probably hoping she’ll heal by the 7th stage and were initially planning to put her there. But since it seems like she won’t manage to, they kept Muravyova in Austria.

Anyways, hoping for a swift recovery for baby Nika! To make it to JrWorlds, she needs to recover by Junior Nationals, so she has at least 4 months to rest and fully heal.

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

But didn't someone here claim that Nika was to change places with Sofia M. for their second JGP placements to avoid Nika nad Sofia A. meeting too early? Hmmm....

Yes, I also thought of certain commenters suggesting there was some evil plot orchestrated by Plushy... Poor Nika, I hope she gets well soon and it's only a minor injury.

 

[Skatesocs]

FYI, I said maybe it’s health situation or “strategy”. And I did not “claim” anything, my dear.

I think you should just ignore. The thread has been much more pleasant reading when every few pages we no longer have to read the suggestion that simple skating talk is equivalent to an ill-begotten conspiracy theory. If simple questions and answers bother some, let them.

 

[Mariiiiskate]

Apparently Zhukov is saying that the injury is serious and most probably Nika won't comeback to competition until February at least, poor Nika and she just found her form again after how last season ended for her

 

[Amei]

Does anyone know if Anna Shcherbakova is on track to get her quads back? I think that is what she said in an interview after test skates but I could not understand the translation so well

According to this interview with Daniil she has the flip back.

https://www.sport-express.ru/figure...kova-vosstanovila-chetvernoy-pryzhok-1839485/

side note I found this response by Daniil hilarious, seems they get tired of the puberty question as well. In the follow up question, he does elaborate that Shcherbakova lagged in getting back to training (which we knew about her toe injury)

- Is the situation with Anna Shcherbakova just a physical disability? There are no fours. Or some kind of puberty?


- Your favorite word, yeah.

 

[Amei]

Trusova withdrew from the competition.

Those above that already had made their feelings known about her heavy workload were just handed a bunch of ammunition.

I’m anticipating we are going to be seeing some “I told you so” posts real soon. Haha

Well its not with glee or anything but I do question this strategy of having her skate only the SP (they've said there was no injury), especially when we know that she wants to go for that mammoth layout in the FS. Have to wonder if she isn't doing clean routines in competition how much this shakes her confidence and her stock in the eyes of the Fed - they don't need her doing 5 quads to get a sweep, they have 3 skaters who can do some of the difficult jumps Trusova does - generally with more reliability to be clean in competition who are better scorers in all other aspects of skating than Trusova: Valieva with the quad toe/triple axel, Shcherbakova with even just the quad flip restored, and Kostornaia with the triple axel.

 

[Minz]

Honestly, I think that it’s really early to make a ton of assumptions about the season. It has barely been two weeks since test skates.

Also with Sasha, how many people have ever even attempted five quads, let alone landed them?! Not even Nathan Chen is perfectly consistent with 5 quads!

 

[Greengemmonster]

I really wanted to see Veronika again.

Oh I'm so sad. She's such a delightful skater. Hope she recovers soon poor thing.

 

[Amei]

Honestly, I think that it’s really early to make a ton of assumptions about the season. It has barely been two weeks since test skates.

Also with Sasha, how many people have ever even attempted five quads, let alone landed them?! Not even Nathan Chen is perfectly consistent with 5 quads!

Well for starters many people were crowning her Olympic champion after test skates so that making assumptions problem is a 2 way street.. and I didn't make an assumption in my post, I said I question only having her do the SP (they said there wasn't an injury so that tells me only doing the SP was the plan), and I said I wonder what the lack of clean skates does or could do to her confidence and her stock with the Fed, yes its only a few weeks into the season but she's in a very crowded field that will have to be reduced to 3 skaters somehow.

Regarding the 5 quads, no one is doubting its tough and few attempt it, in fact my post was questioning why they pulled her from the FS portion of the competition which is pulling her from another competition attempt at the layout she wants. And Nathan Chen needs 5 quads against Yuzuru, Trusova doesn't really need the 5 quads if she actually stopped focusing on the "quad records".

 

[flanker]

Well for starters many people were crowning her Olympic champion after test skates so that making assumptions problem is a 2 way street.. and I didn't make an assumption in my post, I said I question only having her do the SP (they said there wasn't an injury so that tells me only doing the SP was the plan), and I said I wonder what the lack of clean skates does or could do to her confidence and her stock with the Fed, yes its only a few weeks into the season but she's in a very crowded field that will have to be reduced to 3 skaters somehow.

Regarding the 5 quads, no one is doubting its tough and few attempt it, in fact my post was questioning why they pulled her from the FS portion of the competition which is pulling her from another competition attempt at the layout she wants. And Nathan Chen needs 5 quads against Yuzuru, Trusova doesn't really need the 5 quads if she actually stopped focusing on the "quad records".

According to people I know who were in Syzran and talked to her It truly was the plan from the beginning to do only SP.

 

[Mariiiiskate]

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Apparently Zhilina has broken her leg and is expected to be out for 2-3 months.

 

[Mawwerg]

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Apparently Zhilina has broken her leg and is expected to be out for 2-3 months.

It sounds well. Hope for quick recovery for Veronika.

 

[Minz]

Well for starters many people were crowning her Olympic champion after test skates so that making assumptions problem is a 2 way street.. and I didn't make an assumption in my post, I said I question only having her do the SP (they said there wasn't an injury so that tells me only doing the SP was the plan), and I said I wonder what the lack of clean skates does or could do to her confidence and her stock with the Fed, yes its only a few weeks into the season but she's in a very crowded field that will have to be reduced to 3 skaters somehow.

Regarding the 5 quads, no one is doubting its tough and few attempt it, in fact my post was questioning why they pulled her from the FS portion of the competition which is pulling her from another competition attempt at the layout she wants. And Nathan Chen needs 5 quads against Yuzuru, Trusova doesn't really need the 5 quads if she actually stopped focusing on the "quad records".

I wasn't talking about you specifically, I was talking on more of a general level.

And also, Sasha has said she wanted to do 5 quads for a while. I don't think she'll stop now.

 

[Amei]

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Apparently Zhilina has broken her leg and is expected to be out for 2-3 months.

Oh no, perhaps she can reach out to and look to her former rinkmate Shcherbakova for some encouragement over this type of setback

 

[Remilia]

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Apparently Zhilina has broken her leg and is expected to be out for 2-3 months.

Well, it's not quite as bad as I thought...if it's 2-3 months, then she might be back on the ice by January? Which means she could still attend nationals and have a chance at making worlds. Hopefully there is no long term damage and her jumps will still be intact...

 

[Minz]

Well, it's not quite as bad as I thought...if it's 2-3 months, then she might be back on the ice by January? Which means she could still attend nationals and have a chance at making worlds. Hopefully there is no long term damage and her jumps will still be intact...

I mean… it’s still pretty bad. I believe Anna said that for her it was 6 weeks in a cast. So 6 weeks of doing barely anything, then once she can walk/run decently, she can start to skate. Not jump. One she can do that, then it’s singles, then doubles, then triples. Then competing. IIRC, Anna said that the doctors though she wouldn’t skate again.

I found this video. It’s Anna’s first time on the ice after her broken leg.

 

[Amei]

According to people I know who were in Syzran and talked to her It truly was the plan from the beginning to do only SP.

I really dont understand that logic, her problem has typically been the FS and doing all those quads in competition, why would they take away an opportunity for more competition experience with that layout of the 5 quads

 

[Skatesocs]

I really dont understand that logic, her problem has typically been the FS and doing all those quads in competition, why would they take away an opportunity for more competition experience with that layout of the 5 quads

To get the SP 3A consistent. Doing only a 2A in the SP will put her on the back foot for the LP, and she'll already be fighting with nerves. It's an interesting idea.

I think if the scheduling had allowed for it, maybe she'd have also done the LP.

 

[Shayuki]

I mean… it’s still pretty bad. I believe Anna said that for her it was 6 weeks in a cast. So 6 weeks of doing barely anything, then once she can walk/run decently, she can start to skate. Not jump. One she can do that, then it’s singles, then doubles, then triples. Then competing. IIRC, Anna said that the doctors though she wouldn’t skate again.

I found this video. It’s Anna’s first time on the ice after her broken leg.

That was in october and Anna broke her leg in early July I believe? so 3 months without ice. The first competition was in January. She had very tiny jumps during early 2018.

Also, even though it's now been over 4 years since then she still hasn't gotten her 4T back, only jumping quads that use the other leg primarily.

So depending on the severity for Veronika, it can have quite an impact on her career.