2021-22 Russian Women's Figure Skating

[Greengemmonster]

Surely that's not a broken leg. Omg I don't know why but news of her injury hit me really hard. I was imagining the wee thing in a cast.

She put some weight on it in the end so hopefully she'll be ok.

 

[flanker]

I can be hardly called fan of Plushenko, but I do not think he would be that irresponsible/reckless to allow Nika to train like that if her health would not allow that. Also her mother would've surely said something. I presume they do what doctors allow them to do.

 

[Shayuki]

Also you have to check out Vazhnova (5th overall). I really really liked her. She has potential.

Vazhnova's always been one of my favorites to watch but unfortunately her jumps also have always been a bit of a disaster. Outside of jumps there actually are very few skaters I prefer watching over her but unfortunately jumps are just so important in today's figure skating.

Strange though that she appears to be able to walk on both legs at the end

Probably similar to what I had after I stepped on the pavement wrong and tore something. I could actually walk normally but anything more extreme was extremely painful, as stepping in a slightly wrong angle. Healing took me about 2 weeks for it to be passable, but complete healing must have taken several months. The problem with these ankle injuries is that the ankle stays unstable for quite a while and it's especially bad for skating. They also are very bad injuries for ice hockey and the effects can linger for years.

Also, I... can't really see the purpose of skating with one skate or jumping with one leg. Surely it would be better to just take the time to rest. Generally, everyone could use a bit of a resting period every now and then and that might as well be when you're injured. Especially when anything Veronika will be doing this season is of marginal importance at best.

 

[Amei]

Also, I... can't really see the purpose of skating with one skate or jumping with one leg. Surely it would be better to just take the time to rest. Generally, everyone could use a bit of a resting period every now and then and that might as well be when you're injured. Especially when anything Veronika will be doing this season is of marginal importance at best.

There are some benefits to jumping on on the ground like she is in the video on 1 leg and we see other skaters do it as well though usually there is a switch off between legs. Its curious that there's not been clarification that the injury isn't as significant.

 

[Fluture]

I can be hardly called fan of Plushenko, but I do not think he would be that irresponsible/reckless to allow Nika to train like that if her health would not allow that. Also her mother would've surely said something. I presume they do what doctors allows them to do.

Her mother is also her coach and highly ambitious. And he is irresponsible enough to let his eight year old own son jump doubles with his arm literally in a cast. He could very well end up worsening his injury if he has an unfortunate fall. That‘s a recipe for disaster.

As for Zhilina - she‘s missing the next competitions anyway and there‘s zero sense in skating with only one boot on. It‘s risky, not to mention your form will be completely different because your body instinctively tries to avoid putting weight on the injured side and you can‘t use your second leg anyway. If the injury isn‘t too bad, she can still stay in shape doing off-ice training. But otherwise: just let these kids rest!

 

[nussnacker]

Also, I... can't really see the purpose of skating with one skate or jumping with one leg. Surely it would be better to just take the time to rest. Generally, everyone could use a bit of a resting period every now and then and that might as well be when you're injured. Especially when anything Veronika will be doing this season is of marginal importance at best.

Totally. One problem is that she might put that leg down “the wrong way” and it can worsen her condition. The other problem could be that the other leg will have a disproportional amount of impact, because it has to support all the weight that 2 legs used to support.

But again, we don’t really know what’s the nature of her ligament sprain/tear. I hope it’s very minor and she’s not being put at unnecessary risk with these exercises.

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

There is an official statement from Plushenko though, it was posted today in the morning: https://www.instagram.com/p/CUULPOOg3Fj/
Veronika injured an ankle ligament while in the fitness studio. She is waiting for doctors to clear her for full training and is expected to be back on competitive ice this year.

 

[macy]

That is absolutely messed up.

I will repeat here what many people have commented in that another site post, as I agree with it 100%:

If Anna, who is training for the Olympics, can take a month and a half to rest from a broken toe, then Veronika can take time off to heal from a broken leg/leg injury, especially since she wouldn’t be going anywhere more than Jr. Worlds.

I don’t know who or what allowed this, but this is completely ridiculous and just plain incompetence on whoever ok’d that..

yeah it's one thing to have her do some off ice on one leg but putting her on the ice in one skate is ridiculous and dangerous. what's the point? she's a junior, she's not training to make the olympic team. she won't even have that shot for another four years. let her heal properly so she can come back strong and not have long term complications from not healing correctly and not resting.

 

[Skatesocs]

she won't even have that shot for another four years.

And, if this continues, she never will.

 

[icybear]

So the only jump left on Evgenia resume is a triple sal. I wondered why people still huffed about her not getting funding from the fed over other girls who can do 7 jumps

 

[Paulipau]

So the only jump left on Evgenia resume is a triple sal. I wondered why people still huffed about her not getting funding from the fed over other girls who can do 7 jumps

Ow, I saw her doing some 3-3's on Tiktok few weeks ago.

Anyway, I do not think that anyone is "huffed". There are plenty of sad people, disappointed maybe.

 

[vorravorra]

yeah it's one thing to have her do some off ice on one leg but putting her on the ice in one skate is ridiculous and dangerous. what's the point? she's a junior, she's not training to make the olympic team. she won't even have that shot for another four years. let her heal properly so she can come back strong and not have long term complications from not healing correctly and not resting.

Veronika is already skating on two legs in today's video.

 

[Amei]

Ow, I saw her doing some 3-3's on Tiktok few weeks ago.

Anyway, I do not think that anyone is "huffed". There are plenty of sad people, disappointed maybe.

Well I think we can all agree that practice is much different than going out onto competition ice and nailing a 7 triple program (which would not podium in Russia right now), and that's something that skaters who haven't been on a year+ break struggle to do. And I'm not sure why there was some 'disappointment', being named to the national team (reserve or main) is not some lifetime achievement award; its really about funding more than anything for the upcoming season; she didn't compete at all last season, typically that has meant no better than being on the reserve team and right now with how deep the Russian ladies are it would have been a spit in the face to have her named over a skater that competed last season put up decent results.

 

[Scott512]

IF she takes any time off ice to heal…

https://www.another site.com/r/Figu...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

That’s a snapshot from Plushchenko’s Instagram stories from today, where his son is jumping axels with a cast on the broken arm and, suddenly, Veronika appears training on one skate…

I am speechless this time. They are risking these kids entire future by not letting take time off and heal properly. They are not going to the Olympics, this season isn’t important, so why???

Let’s hope that the media got it wrong and the injury is less serious than reported.

(I don’t know how to link the IG story)

This is completely bewildering.Where are the parents? Oh yeah they're making these unhealthy decisions.

I hope these kids make full recoveries and have great skating in their future.

Does anyone remember the tragic story of the phenomenal 16 year old Russian gymnast Elena Mukina? She broke her neck in 1980 trying to please her coaches because her coach thought she could be a real challenger to Nadia who was the star of the 1976 summer Olympics. One little Romanian girl got the Russian gymnastics federation to panic and do even crazier things for their athletes like Elena. She broke her neck at 16 was paralyzed from the neck down and lived until she was I believe 46. All sports federations need the proper leaders in place place to try to eliminate outrageous terroristic coaching Ching that leads to life changing injuries.

 

[alexocfp]

And if Anna listened to most everyone she wouldn’t have been Russian champion last year.

Athletes are born out of a different mold. Russian female figure skaters are born from even rarer molds it seems.

So it’s useless to tell them to stop or behave like a normal human. Since they aren’t normal humans.

 

[vorravorra]

I think the extent of Veronika's injury and consequently her supposed "heroism" have been blown out of proportion. It looks like it was relatively minor but she wasn't allowed to load her injured leg for a while and now is back to skating without jumps.

 

[alexocfp]

I think the extent of Veronika's injury and consequently her supposed "heroism" have been blown out of proportion. It looks like it was relatively minor but she wasn't allowed to load her injured leg for a while and now is back to skating without jumps.

Yeah, but what fun is it if it’s not blown out of proportion? Haha

In later tellings, this story will become that she broke her leg in 30 places and still took the ice with no cast and a walker in order to not miss practice.

 

[Minz]

So some bad news. Alexander Gorshkov just said that Russian figure skaters simply can’t get visas to the US. He says they will have to get them through another country. Assuming Sasha’s visa still works, then Daria and Ksenia have around 3 weeks to figure this out before Skate America.

 

[AlexBreeze]

So some bad news. Alexander Gorshkov just said that Russian figure skaters simply can’t get visas to the US. He says they will have to get them through another country. Assuming Sasha’s visa still works, then Daria and Ksenia have around 3 weeks to figure this out before Skate America.

Kseniia has visa.

 

[fabienne1996]

So the only jump left on Evgenia resume is a triple sal. I wondered why people still huffed about her not getting funding from the fed over other girls who can do 7 jumps

Firstly a few weeks ago you could see her jumping 3-3 , and Sal wad always her best jump, and i a show mist skaters jump their best jump, zhenya more often than not has jumped Sal in shows and exhibitions , for years even when she was a teenager ,