2022-23 Cup of Russia - Final - St. Petersburg

[Jumping_Bean]

tbh I didn't think the scoring at jr nationals was as bad as Plushenko claimed but they have done her dirty here

Same, I think Jr Nats scoring wasn't that bad (tbh, I also have not made the effort to look into the scoring very closely, because I had better things to do), but the worst thing you can do when someone is acting paranoid about being treated a certain way is actually treating them like that.

I understand that some people probably were offended, but in situations like this you have to be a bigger person because you're literally a professional.

 

[Mawwerg]

ok, so she fell twice

Do they put her above Titova still?

I think Titova will be fourth.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

ok, so she fell twice

Do they put her above Titova still?

Not just overall, which I could have understood as she had a score advantage after the Short, but also in the Free.

 

[elektra blue]

onto Pairs!

 

[EdgeCall]

Impressive event thoughout.

The top shots did the more spectacular stuff but the second-tiers had cleaner and more original programs.

 

[anonymoose_au]

ok, so she fell twice

Do they put her above Titova still?

Duh of course.

Man, why don't you take out a billboard ad, Russian Figure Skating Fed

"Give up and go home Sofia Titova"

That would at least be honest.

 

[Kittosuni]

I'm sure someone is going to post a youtube video studying and highlighting Titova's UR jumps if they are real on not.

Her 4S was UR ever in real time but not sure with the other jumps though.

Can't wait with what Plushenko is going to say

 

[elektra blue]

I'm sure someone is going to post a youtube video studying and highlighting Titova's UR jumps if they are real on not.

Her 4S was UR ever in real time but not sure with the other jumps though.

Can't wait with what Plushenko is going to say

he'd better stay silent for a change...

 

[Mawwerg]

Not just overall, which I could have understood as she had a score advantage after the Short, but also in the Free.

Too much damage to tech scores in protocols. Three underrotations on major jumps, two awful spins and double flip.

 

[LadyB]

Pairs, glorious pairs!

 

[Kittosuni]

Can't wait to see the protocols.

Have to go back and see the slowmo on Titova's jumps and the 3A looks fully rotated to me but the 4S was definitely iffy.

 

[Mawwerg]

Can't wait to see the protocols.

Have to go back and see the slowmo on Titova's jumps and the 3A looks fully rotated to me

They are already there.

 

[3lutz3loop]

just saw the protocols and it seems like the judges were strict but that still doesn't justify putting Daria above Titova, Eteri bonus in full swing

 

[Kittosuni]

Can't find it. Can you post it here please

They are already there.

 

[Mawwerg]

Can't find it. Can you post it here please

https://fsrussia.ru/results/2223/cor/jun/p__Scores.pdf

 

[Jumping_Bean]

Too many damage to tech scores in protocols. Three underrotations on major jumps, two awful spins and double flip.

The thing is, Masha Gordeeva's 4T was just as underrotated as Titova's first 4S - Masha got a q call (i.e. full BV), Titova a <.

Scores in isolation are rarely an issue, it's scores in comparison to each other.

I'd have to go through all skates and look at calls to make a full comment on how consistent calls were, but experience tells me that tech panels are rarely ever consistent across the board (yes, even if the tech panel includes Shin Amato).

 

[Kittosuni]

just saw the protocols and it seems like the judges were strict but that still doesn't justify putting Daria above Titova, Eteri bonus in full swing

but Titova easily beat Sadkova in PCS though It's the tech calls that really brought her score down plus not to mention she was already behind from her SP score. Sadkova's off axis 4T and 3lz was also fully rotated(which was shocking to see in the replay)

But I agree Sadkova with 2 falls getiing 62.5 in PCS is high even Gordeeva. It should have been 1 or even 2 points lower in PCS.

 

[elektra blue]

oh right, Columbus on a workday and the aztec girl. hello! i come to bring you self contempt, pox and slavery

 

[yume]

It's so weird to hear this music. It was the music of our beauty pageant for years.

 

[Kittosuni]

The thing is, Masha Gordeeva's 4T was just as underrotated as Titova's first 4S - Masha got a q call (i.e. full BV), Titova a <.

Scores in isolation are rarely an issue, it's scores in comparison to each other.

I'd have to go through all skates and look at calls to make a full comment on how consistent calls were, but experience tells me that tech panels are rarely ever consistent across the board (yes, even if the tech panel includes Shin Amato).

But Judges should be giving the benefit of the doubt to the skaters which i don't think Titova got.

Titova skated in the first half while Gordeeva in the last group and we already know how judges usually score that.