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I posted this on the NQS thread and am reposting it here.
The Advancement Criteria USFS put out differ from the Rulebook for junior pairs. I heard USFS is aware of the discrepancy, but I do not know how they plan to address it.
The 2024 SINGLES, PAIRS AND ICE DANCE QUALIFYING SEASON ATHLETE BYE & ADVANCEMENT CRITERIA https://www.usfigureskating.org/sit...Qualifying Bye Advancement Criteria Final.pdf says that for Junior Pairs:
JUNIOR PAIRS Maximum of 8 available spots at the U.S. Figure Skating Championships ... The top eight total combined junior scores from the nation in the U.S. Pairs Final
THE 2023-24 OFFICIAL U.S. FIGURE SKATING RULEBOOK
https://www.usfigureskating.org/sites/default/files/media-files/2023-24 Rulebook.pdf
2502 Pairs teams qualify for the U.S. Figure Skating Championships:
A. For the junior events by:
1. Placing in the top 12 in junior at the U.S. Pairs Final;
2. Earning a bye: a. For qualifying to compete in the same event at the Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final (not including alternates); b. As a member of the United States Figure Skating Team who meets the approved criteria per rule 2511.
Teams qualifying under this subparagraph (2) have the choice to compete at the U.S. Pairs Final but do not lose their bye to the U.S. Figure Skating Championships, regardless of placement, nor displace a team who would have placed in the top 12 at the U.S. Pairs Final if said team had not competed. At such final the top 12 places plus the competitor(s) who receive a bye will advance to the U.S. Figure Skating Championships.
The Rulebook says top 12, but the Advancement Criteria says top 8.
From what I heard, the four novice teams that qualify for nationals based on the Advancement Criteria will have a separate event and not compete together with the junior teams. It is not like how it is with Junior singles, where the top 2 novices for singles compete with the juniors and explicitly said in the Advancement Criteria document. The Novice pairs competition at the nationals is separate from the junior pairs event.
Has anyone heard anything about this discrepancy?
The Advancement Criteria USFS put out differ from the Rulebook for junior pairs. I heard USFS is aware of the discrepancy, but I do not know how they plan to address it.
The 2024 SINGLES, PAIRS AND ICE DANCE QUALIFYING SEASON ATHLETE BYE & ADVANCEMENT CRITERIA https://www.usfigureskating.org/sit...Qualifying Bye Advancement Criteria Final.pdf says that for Junior Pairs:
JUNIOR PAIRS Maximum of 8 available spots at the U.S. Figure Skating Championships ... The top eight total combined junior scores from the nation in the U.S. Pairs Final
THE 2023-24 OFFICIAL U.S. FIGURE SKATING RULEBOOK
https://www.usfigureskating.org/sites/default/files/media-files/2023-24 Rulebook.pdf
2502 Pairs teams qualify for the U.S. Figure Skating Championships:
A. For the junior events by:
1. Placing in the top 12 in junior at the U.S. Pairs Final;
2. Earning a bye: a. For qualifying to compete in the same event at the Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final (not including alternates); b. As a member of the United States Figure Skating Team who meets the approved criteria per rule 2511.
Teams qualifying under this subparagraph (2) have the choice to compete at the U.S. Pairs Final but do not lose their bye to the U.S. Figure Skating Championships, regardless of placement, nor displace a team who would have placed in the top 12 at the U.S. Pairs Final if said team had not competed. At such final the top 12 places plus the competitor(s) who receive a bye will advance to the U.S. Figure Skating Championships.
The Rulebook says top 12, but the Advancement Criteria says top 8.
From what I heard, the four novice teams that qualify for nationals based on the Advancement Criteria will have a separate event and not compete together with the junior teams. It is not like how it is with Junior singles, where the top 2 novices for singles compete with the juniors and explicitly said in the Advancement Criteria document. The Novice pairs competition at the nationals is separate from the junior pairs event.
Has anyone heard anything about this discrepancy?
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It had been mentioned that they were struggling with practice time for the pair elements. They reportedly couldn't afford private ice time, so were having to practice everything during public/freestyle sessions. Sadly there isn't really any funding available here. Those in the performance squad (which requires skaters to have the technical minimums for Europeans or Junior Worlds, which Davison and Caller didn't have) get a little bit of support from BIS, but I don't think it's much.
Unless there's some injury or health-related issue that would allow them to do singles but not pairs at the moment. 
