2023-24 Russian Local Events – Discussion

[AlexBreeze]

Have the junior entires been published yet?

Junior entries won't be announced in advance.

 

[Mariiiiskate]

Can anyone tell me what song this is?

anyway Poor Anastasia this was rough skate

 

[Mariiiiskate]

Maybe we should start a pre-match chat in a separate thread as this is a biggie, as we'll have separate threads for every stage as usual.

we definitely should cause the link collection thread is definitely getting derailed like this

 

[Mariiiiskate]

Diana has such pretty dress

Sadly she had a nightmare skate today

 

[AlexBreeze]

we definitely should cause the link collection thread is definitely getting derailed like this

For different reason actually.

 

[Mariiiiskate]

Our 1st mostly clean skate of the day
This was a great free from Zorina, shame she struggled a lot in the short

 

[Mariiiiskate]

Mixed skate for Maria L, some bad landings and a fall on a 4S(?) but otherwise not a bad skate Shame I guess we wont see her during the cup stages. She is capable of much better even in the free but its the short that majorly let her down this time around.
Her dress is very pretty tho

Btw does anyone know when she moved to SPB or who she is coached by? Im assuming the move is due to it being much easier to get a cup stage that way but its still really surprising .

 

[Mariiiiskate]

For different reason actually.

We probably should ask the mods to move the discussion to another thread as its still on going and it's now more than page long.

 

[Mariiiiskate]

A clean skate from Maria N well done!

 

[Mariiiiskate]

Much better free for Nastya Shigina than the short went almost clean with only 2 rough landings but unfortunately she missed her 3rd combo which is going to hurt even with no rep

 

[LadyB]

Not bad, Nika. I wish she had a bit more expression.

 

[Mariiiiskate]

A great skate from Alisa! This definitely the cleanest skate we have had the whole day
She has very nice big jumps, I cant remember her from previous seasons but I will be keeping an eye on her in the future.

 

[Mariiiiskate]

Sofia Shepeleva has some really nice qualities but her jumps are really tiny and she is very much struggling with those landings .
Is that Sofia Samodurova with her?

That score is questionable

 

[Mariiiiskate]

A few questions on this season's calendar...

1) Did the Jumping Competition/Tournament actually get rebranded as the "Jumping Nationals"?

2) What is the Russian Challenge? Is that the Program Competition? Or is it something different? (And, if it's different, is the Program Competition happening this season?)

3) Am I right that the (Senior) Grand Prix Final is what's listed as "Spartakiad (seniors)," which is happening in February? If so, why isn't the Junior Grand Prix Final being held as part of Spartakiad, as well? Why is it taking place as a separate event one month later?

1: I think they are changing the format but yes its the last season Jumping tournament
3: Yes Spartakiad replaces the cup final for seniors, Im assuming the reason for separating them would be that its less than a week after junior nationals and all the skaters at the Junior cup final would have been present at jr nats as well. Last season juniors also complained that the schedule was too hectic for them with Junior nats and cup final being 2 weeks apart.

I actually dont know what the Russian challenge is, I assume that might be the show program from last season. I think @AlexBreeze knows better.

Exactly. If Russia is blatantly non-compliant with CAS and WADA, for example by allowing Kamila to compete despite whatever the ruling winds up being, they'll basically be eliminating their chances of being readmitted. And not just for figure skating, but for all its sports.

Keep in mind that these rulings generally prohibit all competitive *and* training *and* show activities. Kamila basically wouldn't be allowed to step on the ice for as long as the punishment lasts. Or else she and Russia will be found non-compliant.

Also, I wouldn't assume the punishment will start as of the date she tested positive. She's been regularly competing, training, and doing shows in the nearly two years since then; in fact, she was highest earning skater in Russia last season. So I could see CAS, WADA, etc. saying that this time shouldn't count towards her punishment, and that rather her punishment should start as of the day of their ruling.

ISU has asked for the punishment to be 2 years from the day she tested positive, thats probably where people have got that notion from. WADA I think were asking for 4 years but idk if thats still the case.


Also Please @Idiote @Mathematician and everyone else could be we please keep this discussion somewhere else, The link collection thread isn't a discussion thread its meant for competition announcement and links only so they don't get lost in the discussion threads.

 

[Mariiiiskate]

A really good skate from Valeria Shaprova!
This girl is very promising, nice big jumps, great spins and she is very fast on the ice. I hope she gets a cup stage assignment this season.

 

[Mariiiiskate]

Davai Karina!

 

[LadyB]

Davai, Karina!!!! Davai, Kolpaks!!!!

 

[Mariiiiskate]

Karina has really big jumps, overall a good skate from her, some messy landings and lost spin levels but she stayed up on her feet and fought hard to get everything done she might get a time deduction tho

 

[AlexBreeze]

1) Did the Jumping Competition/Tournament actually get rebranded as the "Jumping Nationals"?

It had this name last season as well.

2) What is the Russian Challenge? Is that the Program Competition? Or is it something different? (And, if it's different, is the Program Competition happening this season?)

Program competititon, yes.

3) Am I right that the (Senior) Grand Prix Final is what's listed as "Spartakiad (seniors)," which is happening in February? If so, why isn't the Junior Grand Prix Final being held as part of Spartakiad, as well? Why is it taking place as a separate event one month later?

The Spartakiad is held every year and includes different sports. It is usually for juniors or novices. Because of the ban, the Sports Minirstry decided to do it for seniors. And the FS federation decided to cancel the senior final, because it would be two similar competitions in the same month.

 

[LadyB]

Karina has really big jumps, overall a good skate from her, some messy landings and lost spin levels but she stayed up on her feet and fought hard to get everything done she might get a time deduction tho

She's really improved her jumps. There is some potential. I so hope she'll be Elena Alexandrovna's next star pupil.