2024 Grand Prix de France Women's Free Skate

[Joekaz]

Wakaba did win the free. She just didn’t do enough to overcome not doing as well in the short.

And Amber being overscored, especially in PCS.

 

[Janice4th]

And Amber being overscored, especially in PCS.

What part was she overscored in for the pcs?

 

[Joekaz]

What part was she overscored in for the pcs?

Im talking comparatively. The scores vary from competition. But she should never be close to Higuchi. Plus she got away with UR in the short.

 

[mirai4life]

So happy for Amber! she fought until the very end.

 

[TallyT]

So an American with jumps gets blatantly overcooked PCS in this discipline too? How very surprising.

 

[LazyFuzai]

It's sad day for rain.

Amber:I don't want to say nothing changed,because last year you would fail miserable there,but you manage to win with few mistakes.Not there yet but it's promising showing for the rest of the season.

Wakaba:My god.Someone tell her it's not Olympics season yet because she is giving it all.Run to the top of that hill and staying there hard.Amazing performance.Best two Stsq this event and probably entire women field this season.Choreo is gorgeous as well.The passion she is putting is on another level.Also high technique on every element.It is just peak skating from her.

Rion:Another program when she show high level of technique she possess.The edges she manage to get on the ice are crazy.Great performance.Anyway I'm not buying this program even tho she is trying hard to sell it.

Chaeyeon:Uff that was hard.Lovely well toned dress with amazing program,but that push on 3L +3T cost her painfull fall and a lot of points.Her getting Stsq 3 when Nina get Stsq 4 is criminal thing from judges.Sad too see her crying,but this performance my cost her the spot in the final.Keep up hard work and next GP you are in!

Sarah:What was that?Those wooden legs after Rion skate were super tragic to watch.Even tho it was clean,the program is not existing.Jumps,jumps and only jumps.

Nina:Idk,still not there with the form,not looking great in both programs.Stsq lvl 4 was a nice gift for this

Mai:Such disappoitment.Her and the music in background were two different things.Hard to watch

Gubanova:Not looking confident in both programs.Hope too see some improvements.

Overall nice Grand Prix.Much better than both before.High level skating was there and it looks promising for the rest of the season.With Kaori in current form we may get interesting Grand Prix Final.

 

[CoyoteChris]

Hello lovely folks, Ichat is again chugging her energy drink

Red bull?

 

[CoyoteChris]

And Amber being overscored, especially in PCS.

JMTC. If a skater makes a fair number of mistakes, the PCSs should go down. Love Amber, but this was not her day. I am also getting anoyed with the mis pronouciations of skater's names. If you dont want to learn to say "Lutz" well ok, not everyone is a Kate Winslet who can do a great American accent. But Mark's English is so bad my partner and I could hardly understand what he was saying. On 5 channel surround sound. Something about Mai cutting her hair and giving it to "Locks of Love" like my partner does and something about Mai's injury. Mark sounds like a great guy to have a beer with, but he really needs to study English. "The Rain in Spain stays mainly in the Plain" By George He doesnt have it. At least he stays more quiet during the skates.
Other than that, Loved my Asian skaters.....

 

[CoyoteChris]

So happy for Amber! she fought until the very end.

Yes, and she was not always that good at that sort of thing. Good thing for her she had a short program lead so big. Chaeyeon getting up after that hard fall and skating so well really impressed me. She has come so far since I last so her live at Four conts 2023.

 

[TallyT]

If you dont want to learn to say "Lutz" well ok, not everyone is a Kate Winslet who can do a great American accent. But Mark's English is so bad my partner and I could hardly understand what he was saying.

His English was absolutely fine, he's a Brit (Scottish) and sounds like one. Not everyone is required has to ape a US accent to be understandable for the rest of the world, thank you.

 

[Joekaz]

JMTC. If a skater makes a fair number of mistakes, the PCSs should go down. Love Amber, but this was not her day. I am also getting anoyed with the mis pronouciations of skater's names. If you dont want to learn to say "Lutz" well ok, not everyone is a Kate Winslet who can do a great American accent. But Mark's English is so bad my partner and I could hardly understand what he was saying. On 5 channel surround sound. Something about Mai cutting her hair and giving it to "Locks of Love" like my partner does and something about Mai's injury. Mark sounds like a great guy to have a beer with, but he really needs to study English. "The Rain in Spain stays mainly in the Plain" By George He doesnt have it. At least he stays more quiet during the skates.
Other than that, Loved my Asian skaters.....

The biggest problem with skating announcers the last few years is that they get the tech panel decisions as they are reviewing the replays. So they always act like they agree no matter how obviously wrong the calls are, instead of giving their honest opinion. The ISU got tired of the days when Dick Button would laugh at the scores. Lol

 

[Joekaz]

His English was absolutely fine, he's a Brit (Scottish) and sounds like one. Not everyone is required has to ape a US accent to be legible for the rest of the world, thank you.

Don't you think they should get people with a fairly neutral accent for a worldwide feed? Especially since the British are irrelevant in skating today.

 

[Vemvane]

Don't you think they should get people with a fairly neutral accent for a worldwide feed? Especially since the British are irrelevant in skating today.

There is no such thing as a neutral accent. What sounds neutral to people from one region will sound strong to people from another; it all depends on what you are used to hearing. To me, for instance, Mark's accent is unremarkable, while most U.S. English accents are noticeable. My family has country-hopped a lot, and when I moved back to one of the places I spent a large part of my childhood in, I struggled to understand a number of the local accents for the first month, because my ear was no longer attuned to them, particularly the speed of the speech, but all it took was regular exposure for me to gain familiarity and comfort with said accents again.

 

[Flying Feijoa]

If you dont want to learn to say "Lutz"

His pronunciation of 'Lutz' is closer to the original German. It's how most people in the UK say it. I don't object to Americans having their own way of pronouncing skating terms ('salchow' is another), but there is no reason to impose your accent as a global benchmark.

 

[museksk8r]

Im talking comparatively. The scores vary from competition. But she should never be close to Higuchi. Plus she got away with UR in the short.

Why not? I’ve seen Amber skate live and she skates with a ton of speed and her programs are loaded with transitions. Due to her attempted difficulty, she is also getting a boost in PCS because she was the only woman in this event to cleanly complete a 3Axel in the SP and she did rotate the 3Axel in the FS, albeit was not a clean landing. She stayed committed to the performance despite the 3 jump errors in the FS. She did not pop or under-rotate a single jump in either program and I have watched both her SP and FS multiple times now. Wakaba had 4 jumps in the event over both programs called for short rotations and she had two exclamations for edge on her 3flip, one in each program. I have also watched both of her programs multiple times. The judging was accurate in my eyes and I am a fan of both these skaters.

 

[TallyT]

Don't you think they should get people with a fairly neutral accent for a worldwide feed?

There is no such thing as a neutral accent. Everyone who speaks one or another variety or dialect of the English language is more or less hard for some other people who use a different variety to understand, even those of us who listen to a lot of voices from NA, the British Isles and other English-speaking countries.

 

[Janice4th]

Im talking comparatively. The scores vary from competition. But she should never be close to Higuchi. Plus she got away with UR in the short.

So, you have nothing. You prefer Higuchi. Just admit and go from there.

 

[CoyoteChris]

His English was absolutely fine, he's a Brit (Scottish) and sounds like one. Not everyone is required has to ape a US accent to be understandable for the rest of the world, thank you.

Sorry, but Scotland is a tiny piece of the world. I have know 3 Scots in my life, all great people, but very hard to understand. The analogy would be putting up someone from Parts of NYC who would be very hard to understand for people of Europe. I had no issues understanding anyone on Downton Abbey. There were issues with The newist "All creatures great and small" but not too many. At first, I thought it was me, but I would ask my partner what was being said and she hadnt a clue. I really dont care if someone "apes" a US accent (we have many after all) but if a broadcast is going to English speaking countries, then it should be in English.

 

[CoyoteChris]

There is no such thing as a neutral accent. What sounds neutral to people from one region will sound strong to people from another; it all depends on what you are used to hearing. To me, for instance, Mark's accent is unremarkable, while most U.S. English accents are noticeable. My family has country-hopped a lot, and when I moved back to one of the places I spent a large part of my childhood in, I struggled to understand a number of the local accents for the first month, because my ear was no longer attuned to them, particularly the speed of the speech, but all it took was regular exposure for me to gain familiarity and comfort with said accents again.

You dont say what country you are from but in the US, CBC and BBC, there is most definately a neutral accent. People from Atlanta Georgia to Portland Maine to Portland Or on the news speak a neutral English in the US, but I have no issues with the CBC or BBC either. But yes, regular exposure to a very small part of the world population (Scottish) and you can understand them...although it is harder to do so the faster they talk. Still, as much as I have listened to him, he is very hard to understand and very frustrating to have to pay money to watch skating with someone who cant be understood. Better to offer a world feed with no commentary what so ever.

 

[CrazyKittenLady]

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