2025 GP Finlandia Trophy Women's Free Skate

[4everchan]

There is still dance.

Are you serious ? LOL

 

[4everchan]

I have some of these on hand, if anyone would like......

thanks but yeah... I like my chocolate darker, just like my men

 

[Ares]

my money was on her doubling the flip.

I guess change is good. I do hope her team adds a second 3A in LP if she is to have a strong chance.

She only needed a triple lutz* instead of a double one to win. But yeah I can see a 2nd 3A coming, it's even a better jump now for Amber than her 3F

*but it had to be a decent one so not a triple lutz with -2.00 GOE

 

[Mathematician]

She cannot do it in combination.

The should absolutely be able to add a 2T to the end.

I think it’s fantastic for her! You don’t want to win the Olympics in November.

It's worse than her last stage. She is scoring 220 in a perfect world—which is not this one. Amber is not known for being a late peaker at all. In no season did she ever improve as things progressed. She is consistently at the same level.

 

[4everchan]

okay... I have a sugar rush... too much pear maple crumble

I hope it's worth it....

 

[YuBluByMe]

I guess at this point Amber has the most consistent women's 3A in history?

Of those that do two, yes. Definitely. Tuktamysheva’s was pretty consistent and she did three total across both programs. So did Rika and hers grew to be very consistent as well.

 

[RatedPG]

Amber is good. Her 3A is wow!!
This program works for her.
My only issue is that she takes breaks in between while Mone is constantly attacking her program.
I’m glad the judges rewarded Mone!
Amber’s PCS should be lower though

 

[Skating91]

Stupid mistake on the Lutz but even if she was clean...she skates so simple, so many crossovers and always on 2 legs. Should not be any close to Mone PCS wise but this is not how it works unfortunately.

I agree. I don't understand the relatively high PCS, same with Liu. Reward the Japanese.

 

[Paulipau]

Ambers 3A is really not that advantageous if she only does one and does loops everywhere. Girl math

 

[Demandred]

Deserved win for Mone in the end, the lutz pop by Amber was crucial.

Amber's 3A looks so stable now, I wonder if she'll try to incorporate a second one in a combo before the Olympics, seems like a logical choice but I don't know how workable this is mid-season.

 

[Paulipau]

I agree. I don't understand the relatively high PCS, same with Liu. Reward the Japanese.

Yea it is how it works tho, they overscore top skaters, to be fair they did same to Tuktik and 3As when they were still competing. Except Alyona of course, that one deserved all the PCS in the world.

 

[Jammers]

Amber has the firepower but not sure about the mental game to win when it counts. She was basically in the same position as Alysa was at Worlds but Alysa seems to welcome the pressure and Amber tries to push it away. You can often see it on their faces Alysa seems to not have a care in the world and Amber has a bit of a worried face.

 

[RatedPG]

1) Mone
2) Kaori
3) Amber
4) Alysa
5) Ami
6) Rinka

Alt. Isabeau

Just like Worlds where Japan and USA sweeped, they sweep the GP circuit.

 

[4everchan]

Ambers 3A is really not that advantageous if she only does one and does a loop in a FS. Girl math

Her repeated jumps are flips and loops. She cannot repeat the lutz which is her worse jump.
So yeah, in that sense, her BV is not that much more than a skater with two lutzes and two flips but you gotta go with what you have.
If she were to repeat the 3a, she may still keep repeating the loop just to bug you (well, more that this is her best jump)

 

[Paulipau]

1) Mone
2) Kaori
3) Amber
4) Alysa
5) Ami
6) Rinka

Alt. Isabeau

Just like Worlds where Japan and USA sweeped, they sweep the GP circuit.

Rinka freaking yay, I wanted Loena there but seems like she did not see it my way.

 

[Mathematician]

Amber has the firepower but not sure about the mental game to win when it counts. She was basically in the same position as Alysa was at Worlds but Alysa seems to welcome the pressure and Amber tries to push it away. You can often see it on their faces Alysa seems to not have a care in the world and Amber has a bit of a worried face.

I don't think it's just mental. Having a 3A doesn't mean you're in perfect physical shape. At this point it's clear she struggles in general with other content. As others have noted her BV generally is not impressive as typical ultra-c performers. She fell on the Lutz in training as well. She is just extremely gifted for the axel.

 

[museksk8r]

Amber's 3A looks so stable now, I wonder if she'll try to incorporate a second one in a combo before the Olympics, seems like a logical choice but I don't know how workable this is mid-season.

She has been trying a FS layout with 2 3Axels in training, but she is preserving her body while she can. It would be interesting to see her try it at the GPF or at Nationals just to see how it plays out for her. Her spot on the US Olympic team is secure now, so she can afford the risk.

 

[Paulipau]

I don't think it's just mental. Having a 3A doesn't mean you're in perfect physical shape. At this point it's clear she struggles in general with other content. As others have noted her BV generally is not impressive as typical ultra-c performers. She fell on the Lutz in training as well. She is just extremely gifted for the axel.

I dont think its a gifted, I think she keeps prioritizing training axel over other content and keep paying the price.

 

[Mathematician]

I dont think its a gifted, I think she keeps prioritizing training axel over other content and keep paying the price.

Good point. It's another possibility. It seems that this would be a self-reinforcing loop either way. I imagine she is quite gifted with it and hence knew she must crutch on it, and as it became more stable she kept crutching further, and other content was neglected.

 

[Skating91]

She cannot do it in combination.

Yeah Amber's exit on the 3A is not good, she generally puts he blade down to hold her balance