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2024 Worlds: General Info and Pre-game chat

icewhite

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Thank you for the previews, @icewhite! I have a couple of differing opinions and thoughts though :LOL:

For me, I think Beccari/Guarise's recent rough outing at Challenge Cup has made me a little wary of their chances to medal. They scored just a 175 at that event. Conti/Macii looked stronger there, although they are still not quite back to the same magic that they had last year. I worry about possible twist errors (which they had at Challenge Cup) and other tidiness issues, but I think they have a very good shot at the podium if they can skate cleanly because they have both the quality and the BV needed. Interestingly, they went back to a prior SP, which hopefully will be the reset they need to put out their strongest performances of the season. I still think Stellato-Dudek/Deschamps have the best shot at winning, and the only thing stopping them is themselves. They have all of the pieces and can put out clean skates, but they just can't overthink it and let the pressure get to them. They have two of the strongest programs of this field and their visible improvements with the speed and skating skills compared to last season have put them ahead of everyone else. I also wouldn't count out Miura/Kihara. Apparently at 4CC, they had just done a few FS runthroughs before competing there, which is insane. Seeing as how Ryuichi seems to have largely recovered and Riku used that break to work on her own strength and skating, they can absolutely end up on that podium if they are able to train uninterrupted by injury. Hopefully Hase/Volodin will be able to use their Euros experiences and their training time since Euros to deliver clean skates at Worlds. I think their programs, especially the free, will hinder them from taking the gold, but it wouldn't surprise me to see them on the podium as well.

For ice dance, I think Gilles/Poirier are going to win. Never underestimate the power of a home crowd, especially in ice dance. Their programs are really fantastic, and their SB at Skate Canada is just 2 points off of Chock/Bates. I think the illness that Chock/Bates had (which hopefully ended up being minor and they have recovered from) might provide that slight edge to Gilles/Poirier that when coupled with a home crowd will push them to the gold. They, like Deanna and Max, just need to not get in their heads and skate cleanly and with passion and joy.

For the men, I'm curious as to how Ilia's lack of training time will affect him. I believe he's spent around a month or so in Europe touring with Art on Ice and doing some additional shows afterwards. While he's been showing some lovely 4As and other quads during the shows, having to spend so much of your time on the road away from your coaches and a regular place to train has to seriously affect his preparation for Worlds. He was doing a show in Italy just last week, and likely next week skaters will be starting to taper their practices and focus on being well-rested for Worlds. It seems as though he's been skating to maintain rather than having that block after US Nats to improve his skating and consistency. It's a vital training window; it's why we see skaters be so good at Worlds (well, that and peaking). Now, of all of the top men competing, he is the one with the most consistent and stable jumps, but I think lacking those extra program runthroughs will affect his PCS scores and perhaps his consistency a bit. That's not to mention the boot issues he was having at US Nats, during which he had to switch back to his old boots. Those can't last him all the way to Worlds, but he should have had enough time to break in those new boots and feel comfortable in them. Unfortunately, that break-in period will again ever so slightly hinder his training, although it's better to do it and get it over with than be skating on dead or brand-new boots at Worlds. Of course, his BV does make two clean skates from him near-impossible to beat, but considering his last skate at US Nats was a little shakier and his adverse training conditions heading in, I don't think he has quite the advantage some people think. For me, the one who has all of the pieces lined up is Yuma Kagiyama (I'm trying to be unbiased here, I swear). Yuma has put out two near-clean FS at Japanese Nationals and 4CC, and has introduced the 4F into his programs with relative success. Although he hasn't landed it cleanly yet, it has looked fairly consistent in practice. He landed a beauty during the 6-minute warmup at 4CC, so we know he can do it during the pressure of competition. His almost-clean skate at 4CC gives him something to work on for Worlds whilst boosting his confidence, and gave him a huge momentum swing heading in. He has two of the strongest programs in the field, and his training has been really good heading in, as he mentioned during a recent open practice that his condition was really good. This is crucial for Yuma, as he tends to skate similarly in competition and practice and relies on solid training to combat nerves. He just finished a training intensive, likely in which he worked on his 4F consistency and jump/spin quality, and is currently heading to Canada to brush up on his choreography with Lori Nichol (and perhaps Caro). This is a very smart move, giving him a chance to adapt to the time zone and most likely opportunities to practice on an NHL-size rink prior to Worlds. For me, he is in the ideal position heading into Worlds. I think that he has all of the pieces to win, but again he just has to put everything together and skate like a champion like he did at 4CC. This is the best-poised Yuma has been to take a Worlds title and he has four years of experience to draw on to help him push through. I also wouldn't count out Shoma. He's had the longest break out of all of the top 4, and his skates at Japanese Nationals were quite solid. If he can just get his consistency and that extra quarter-turn rotation back, I would not be surprised to see him regain his World title. His programs are subtle, yes, but also masterpieces of skating and he has the BV to take the title as well. I have a feeling he will look like a different skater at Worlds compared to the fall and winter. I concur that Adam may have peaked too soon, doing that many competitions in a row has to be so hard on your body. He might have had the chance since Europeans to peak back up for Worlds, but even then, I think some of the roughness of his skating will hold him back. He's a fantastic skater to watch, but his 4Ts he's been posting recently on Instagram are just a little bit scratchy and forwards. In such a tight field, a +2 versus a +4 quad will make a huge difference in who medals and who doesn't.

But, as always, I think we will know more when the practices start. I am very excited for this event, and I think it could shape up to be one of the strongest Worlds we've seen in a while. (Hopefully I haven't jinxed the event or anyone with this post 🤞)

I agree about Beccari/Guarise - I wrote the preview before the Challenger Cup, but even then it was bold -I stand by my prediction just for fun, though :biggrin:

In regards to Yuma, I'd be the happiest if he managed to get that title, but I'm not sure he's there yet with his bv. I think Malinin, if he feels he will lose, will just pull out another 4-4-4 combo or whatever 😉

I don't see Gilles/Poirier as winners. I think it's more likely that if Chock/Bates don't do it, it will be the Italians. But what do I know about ice dance, so 🤷‍♀️ we'll see. My personal favourites are all teams that won't medal, so I guess I'll just try to enjoy the show.
 

skylark

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Can anyone tell me how to jimmy the "skate picks" so that it allows one to add another few (6,7,8 ...) to one's predictions?

I knew how Once Upon A Time, but can't reclaim the knowledge. It's just for fun ... and I'd like to put a few more of my favorites in the prediction box if possible. :)
 

SnowWhite

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Can anyone tell me how to jimmy the "skate picks" so that it allows one to add another few (6,7,8 ...) to one's predictions?

I knew how Once Upon A Time, but can't reclaim the knowledge. It's just for fun ... and I'd like to put a few more of my favorites in the prediction box if possible. :)
I don't recall any way to do that since we moved any from doing it manually and started using the dropdown menu.
 

CaroLiza_fan

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Can anyone tell me how to jimmy the "skate picks" so that it allows one to add another few (6,7,8 ...) to one's predictions?

I knew how Once Upon A Time, but can't reclaim the knowledge. It's just for fun ... and I'd like to put a few more of my favorites in the prediction box if possible. :)

I always liked putting in extra names too.

You used to be able to do it if you posted your predictions, and then clicked the "edit" link at the bottom of the post. Some extra boxes (I can't remember how many) would be added to the bottom of your predictions, which you could add more names into. And then if you saved it and then went in to edit again, some more boxes would be added at the bottom. And so on. I never got as far as to find out if there was a limit on the number of boxes, though.

But, that stopped being able to be done part-way through last season.

CaroLiza_fan
 

Arriba627

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Does anyone know if spectators are allowed at both the Practice Rink and the Main Rink? Sorry if it's already been posted. I didn't see the info anywhere. Thx.
 

labgoat

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I'm getting excited - I expect to be able to watch the entire event this time. I'm getting all my snacks lined up with a semi-Canadian theme - Savory crepes, Maple Leaf cookies, French Onion Soup, Montreal bagels, French toast, Habitant Pea Soup, Canadian butter tarts.
I am taking other suggestions....what else is a must have??

Perhaps Poutine for Lenten Friday?
Canada poutine.jpeg
 
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Arriba627

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I just double checked as to whether or not we are required to carry plastic purses in Bell Centre. I hadn't seen any info about it and wanted to be sure. The answer is no plastic purses. Thank goodness. I hate those things! LOL. Whoever answers the emails at the Bell Center is really on the ball! I sent my question at 11:27 and had an answer at 11:45! Sheesh!
 

yuumagical

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I'm getting excited - I expect to be able to watch the entire event this time. I'm getting all my snacks lined up with a semi-Canadian theme - Savory crepes, Maple Leaf cookies, French Onion Soup, Montreal bagels, French toast, Habitant Pea Soup, Canadian butter tarts.
I am taking other suggestions....what else is a must have??

Perhaps Poutine for Lenten Friday?
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Poutine often has beef gravy on it, so it may not be Lent-friendly if you don't make it yourself!

I would like to try the poutine while I'm in Montreal, but as a pescetarian, I will attempt to see if there are any vegetarian versions available!

Is there a Tim Horton's near you? I have always enjoyed their food whenever I have been to Canada. 😁
 

4everchan

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I'm getting excited - I expect to be able to watch the entire event this time. I'm getting all my snacks lined up with a semi-Canadian theme - Savory crepes, Maple Leaf cookies, French Onion Soup, Montreal bagels, French toast, Habitant Pea Soup, Canadian butter tarts.
I am taking other suggestions....what else is a must have??

Perhaps Poutine for Lenten Friday?
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Poutine is a must.
Smoked meat sandwich.
 

4everchan

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Poutine often has beef gravy on it, so it may not be Lent-friendly if you don't make it yourself!

I would like to try the poutine while I'm in Montreal, but as a pescetarian, I will attempt to see if there are any vegetarian versions available!

Is there a Tim Horton's near you? I have always enjoyed their food whenever I have been to Canada. 😁
It can be mushroom gravy or chicken gravy... ( Not for you but for those who wouldn't do red meat) There are vegan options for gravy too ;)
 

Andrina

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I'm getting excited - I expect to be able to watch the entire event this time. I'm getting all my snacks lined up with a semi-Canadian theme - Savory crepes, Maple Leaf cookies, French Onion Soup, Montreal bagels, French toast, Habitant Pea Soup, Canadian butter tarts.
I am taking other suggestions....what else is a must have??

Perhaps Poutine for Lenten Friday?
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Don't forget beaver tails !
 

Daniel1998

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What is anyone's experience with getting autographs/pics at Worlds, if you've been? Is there a best time to catch a skater out in the hallways (e.g. during practice, after the Gala, after their event)? I've gotten a couple pics at Skate Canada before, after the events were finished, but the crowds and venue were a lot smaller. Somehow I don't think I'll be so lucky this time.
 

yuumagical

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I was poking around on the ISU website and it has a colorful time schedule listed under the "For Teams" section of the event page! (Now how can I store my luggage and get to the men's official practice session immediately after I get off my plane on Monday evening?!?)
 
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