Replay Lounge 2025 GP Finlandia Trophy

[GS Forum Staff]

2025 GP Finlandia Trophy is on!

This is the place to dive deeper and continue conversations from the fast-paced competition threads!

Who impressed you the most? Any standout programs or surprises? How did your favorites do? Want to analyze scores? Share your thoughts!

Please remember to keep things friendly and respectful.

Have fun!

Germany's Hase and Volodin capture fourth Grand Prix gold in Helsinki

2025 Finlandia Trophy: Pairs Figure Skating Germany's Minerva Fabienne Hase and Nikita Volodin captured their fourth individual gold in the Grand Prix at

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Japan's Yuma Kagiyama defends Finlandia Trophy title

2025 Finlandia Trophy: Men's Figure Skating Yuma Kagiyama of Japan defended his title at 2025 Finlandia Trophy on Saturday in Helsinki, taking his eighth

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Mone Chiba strikes Grand Prix gold again in Helsinki

2025 Finlandia Trophy: Women's Figure Skating Mone Chiba of Japan struck gold again, winning her second consecutive Grand Prix gold at 2025 Finlandia

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Fournier Beaudry and Cizeron take second consecutive Grand Prix gold at Finlandia Trophy

2025 Finlandia Trophy: Ice Dance Laurence Fournier Beaudry and Guillaume Cizeron of France took their second consecutive Grand Prix gold on Saturday in

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[throw_triple_flip]

When you consider overall quality of teams (and levels they achieved) vs mistakes made, the top four in the Pairs short being around the same score feels about right.

 

[throw_triple_flip]

Bit of a weird Mens short. Stephen Gogolev was great. Second place for him was a surprise but deserved.

This might be controversial but the more I see Adam Siao Him Fa's SP costume the more I'm beginning to like it.

Mihhail Selevko was my favourite. Enjoyably odd.

 

[throw_triple_flip]

Womens short was a bit tough to watch. Olivia Lisko was charming though.

 

[4everchan]

When people in the competition threads, including myself, talk more about the TP than the skaters, there is a problem.

 

[Blades of Passion]

Piper Gilles tells the truth:

"We've lost that connection to who's watching and also the connection between who's controlling our fate. And I think that's where this needs to change. The judges should judge what they see, the beauty and the artistry of this sport. So I hope that there's a way that we can move forward and open it up and truly be creative, because I think that's what the fans are wanting. They're wanting to come back and support this sport, but I think if our system is still this way, I don't think we're going to keep bringing in the people, because we're discouraged and the audience is discouraged.”

The tech requirements need to be completely overhauled. Footwork sequences have been clunky for far too long and don't let people move on the ice in a natural and interesting way. Spins are too restrictive instead of being moments of beauty and musical interpretation, the rules surrounding lifts need adjustment, and axel sequences getting the same value as combinations is a disaster (stepping into a TRIPLE Axel is what was supposed to be given more credit, not just a double, and also the 3rd jump of a combo should be required to be a different type of jump than the 2nd one, unless it's a Loop).

 

[lariko]

I am not getting into watching until next weekend, since there is nothing next week and a lot this week, so I just glanced at the scores, and aww... Samodelkina actually could have done very well here. Wish she was able to secure her visa. Oh, well.

 

[Mathman]

Ladies SP:

When all was said and all was done,
The others brought knives and Amber brought a gun.

 

[Jammers]

People complained about Skate American but i found the women's field here weaker and not as well skated in the SP.

 

[TallyT]

People complained about Skate American but i found the women's field here weaker and not as well skated in the SP.

To be fair - and I haven't see this one yet, SBS make nonlive watching hard for us, I'll probably have to go VPN and ISU if I want to watch it today - the women's SP at SKAM was probably the only really decent part of it.

 

[lariko]

People complained about Skate American but i found the women's field here weaker and not as well skated in the SP.

I am complaining about all events.

 

[throw_triple_flip]

I thought Mark was overdoing it with his Hunger Games comparison but that rhythm dance was borderline gladatorial!


Slightly apprehensive to find out what that technical panel will make of the Finns rolling around the ice in their free dance.

 

[Karoltyna]

I read in post comp interview that Deniss trains in Champery again but still no word with whom he trains

 

[Lamente Ariane]

Not one but two freak falls today that made me shout in distress Rion's in particular looked brutal, I hope she's all right.

 

[Mathman]

When people in the competition threads, including myself, talk more about the TP than the skaters, there is a problem.

There is actually a bit of irony there. The IJS was intended to address that problem by separating out the aspects of figure skating that can be measured (and so are not controversial) from those that are subjective (and hence open to differences of opinion).

It seems like the opposite happened. The measurable part (TES, in particular edge calls and rotations) is attracting the biggest share of fan dissatisfaction.

 

[Magill]

There is actually a bit of irony there. The IJS was intended to address that problem by separating out the aspects of figure skating that can be measured (and so are not controversial) from those that are subjective (and hence open to differences of opinion).

It seems like the opposite happened. The measurable part (TES, in particular edge calls and rotations) is attracting the biggest share of fan dissatisfaction.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that they can be measured but are not measured anyway.
When you can do something but not do it, the pure potentiality does not matter much, does it?

 

[Mathman]

When you can do something but not do it, the pure potentiality does not matter much, does it?

Evidently not. I suppose the conclusion is that the whole concept of the IJS has fallen on its face. (?)

 

[4everchan]

There is actually a bit of irony there. The IJS was intended to address that problem by separating out the aspects of figure skating that can be measured (and so are not controversial) from those that are subjective (and hence open to differences of opinion).

It seems like the opposite happened. The measurable part (TES, in particular edge calls and rotations) is attracting the biggest share of fan dissatisfaction

Well, levels in dance are TES but some turns seem to look clean to some callers and not to others

Piper's base level on twizzles is definitely a call deserving some scrutiny. The check she made happens often and usually gets level 1 or 2, not base

The wrong calling of the CHRS for FBC is borderline insane.

 

[Mathman]

You know, I hate to be a grumpy old pessimist, but I really do think that we are setting ourselves up for disappointment in our hopes for reducing judging and scoring controversy in figure skating.

If only we had more cameras. if only we had slower slomotion, if only we had sensors on boots, if only we had better-trained tech specialist and judges, if only we had more precise wording of the rules, if only we hd artificial intelligence... .

IMHO we will never make figure skating into a sport like "Who threw a javelin the farthest." We will never eliminate heated arguments about who deserved to be scored higher or lower.

 

[Arigato]

I love the sport as is. Go watch golf if skating disturbs you. Ball goes up. Ball goes down. Weeeeeeeee. Isn't that speshul . . .