2026 Olympics Team Event: Men's Short Program

[Ziotic]

I think the USFS has always been quite aware of this but they give the skaters a lot of choice. If Ilya doesn't want to do the team long, they won't make him.

It’s like asking a team to take silver cause someone isn’t a team player.

In my opinion both Yuma and Stephen amwas gifted. Overscored by 10 points.

I would put Yuma on 1st with a 99 or ahalf point ahead.
Stephen should had a 82 or 89

Were you watching the same skating event?

Didn't othet skaters complain about not being able to beat ilia and his tech.
At same tokrn complain about Jason pcs too high without tech

Now Yuma suddenly gets the 108
Overlook his
Suddenly spots ilia pad
After 3 years of completing that ilia tech cant be beat.

Canada brings up dirty but forget to mention dick pound when winning.

All of sudden Stephen who hasn't scored above 90 outside his national gets a 92
All those cs. Beat are call ur and gets his 80s

Even ilia when this forum complain overlook jumps on him
At olympic notices

Not shouldn't but overlook Yuma and Stephen

More of passionate dislike for ilia.
Yuma nice to watch.
Unlike during season his beautiful artistry didn't translate.

Stephen while skating clean is rigid and robotic.

Ilia is ilia despite the urs he still manages a score that could win.
Yuma skated cleaner. Not better.

Yuma regularly scores in this range. It wasn’t even his PB.

Also Stephen scored over 90 earlier this year at nebelhorn I think and like 89 at a GP.

 

[NanaPat]

You watch skating without listening to the music? I couldn't do that no matter how annoying the commentary can be. Is it because you are concentrating on the technical skating?

I think she meant that she doesn't seek out music because she's heard skaters use it, not that she doesn't listen during the skate.

 

[Karoltyna]

Didn't othet skaters complain about not being able to beat ilia and his tech.
At same tokrn complain about Jason pcs too high without tech

Now Yuma suddenly gets the 108
Overlook his
Suddenly spots ilia pad
After 3 years of completing that ilia tech cant be beat.

Canada brings up dirty but forget to mention dick pound when winning.

All of sudden Stephen who hasn't scored above 90 outside his national gets a 92
All those cs. Beat are call ur and gets his 80s

Even ilia when this forum complain overlook jumps on him
At olympic notices

Not shouldn't but overlook Yuma and Stephen

More of passionate dislike for ilia.
Yuma nice to watch.
Unlike during season his beautiful artistry didn't translate.

Stephen while skating clean is rigid and robotic.

Ilia is ilia despite the urs he still manages a score that could win.
Yuma skated cleaner. Not better.

Yuma overscored is funny statement. If anything he is underscored to spare some room for other particular skater, whos statement about 4A combo before the event may have propped the judges to reward Yuma (almost) what he deserves because Yuma was supposed to be 2nd either way. With this performance he could and should have get PCS closer to 9.5. OFC this isn't first time this season Yuma is ahead after SP.

 

[sparkle400]

I think potentially Yuma is over scored technically. Easier quads than others and combination jump in first half.


No doubt great performance.

 

[Tutto]

I think potentially Yuma is over scored technically. Easier quads than others and combination jump in first half.


No doubt great performance.

I will take soft with running edge landings of Yuma any day over Ilia’s.
As to SS which are by the way technical too, Yuma is on another planet. Not over scored at all imho.

 

[museksk8r]

You may be right. He’s just a kid after all.

Ilia is 21, known as an adult in all 50 states.

 

[apgold]

I watched the men's SP after seeing the results. I was proud of Kevin's performance and glad he brought back the Judas portion. Unfortunately it wasn't enough for France to get into the final but he should be proud of himself given the disaster at Europeans.

I'm happy for Canada and Stephen pulling through though. Yuma was chef's kiss perfect but I think 108 was really high. Ilia said he was giving 50% of his energy here and it showed through some of the scratchy landings. I think he was hammered on tech though harshly. I would have had Yuma around 106 and Ilia closer to 100.

Even with not perfect landings for most of the men and Jun's popped 3A, it was nice to see a not splat fest men's event.

Excited for tomorrow's results!

 

[museksk8r]

Yuma was fantastic in the SP! Really impressive speed, ice coverage, and soft knees bending into the ice like butter. His musical choice and interpretation are also so charming. He was dancing out there with pure joy! He is a skater’s skater, much like his compatriot, Yuka Sato. Bravo, Yuma; that was brilliant!

 

[museksk8r]

LOL at Yuma’s and Kaori’s reactions to his SP score; that was so sweet!

 

[museksk8r]

What I noticed right away with Yuma was how fluid his skating was; now watching Ilia, what stands out to me is how stiff and laboured he looks in comparison. Ilia was really working out there; it didn’t look anywhere near as effortless as Yuma’s skate did.

 

[el henry]

You watch skating without listening to the music? I couldn't do that no matter how annoying the commentary can be. Is it because you are concentrating on the technical skating?

My bad, I did not phrase that well. I absolutely listen to music during skating. I love commentators who are quiet so I can hear the music.

@NanaPat explained it better than me. I liked Yuma's SP music so much, music I did not know before, that it is on my playlist. That almost never happens with music I learn about through skating. Just a quirk.

 

[museksk8r]

The way he left the ice mugging for the cameras and mouthing USA, it seemed like he believed he was easily going to go in the lead, which is bizarre that he thought his errors would beat Yuma’s 108 and then he shook his head no at the scores. An argument could easily be made that Ilia was over scored, so no need to show disrespect at the scores.

 

[frompolandwithlove]

Yuma was brilliant, his skating is so smooth and refined, with soft knees and everything, it's actually annoying that the judging system doesn't really have a way of rewarding this type of quality. And he clearly worked very, very hard on the presentation. Also, +5 GOE for Team Japan for their reactions!

Such a solid event overall! A few non-ideal landings, one pop and that's it for all of the men. No falls, no controversy, great stuff.
And even with the pop, I loved Jun's skate. He looked very sharp and polished to me.

 

[moonkat]

Yuma's just better overall, except having less types of quads in his arsenal, so the only way to beat a flawless Yuma is with more quads or a 4A. IIia's movements on ice are okay for a high level skater, but they aren't great to the point it would give him an edge. I don't think there is anything wrong with concentrating on jumps early on and bringing the other skills up to the same level when he has the energy to do so.

 

[ilovebudgies]

About the UR call on Ilia's lutz--Initially I wasn't paying attention, but I looked at the slo-mo of the jump, and it doesn't look UR to me.

Here's the YouTube clip for anyone interested. The lutz slo-mo starts at 5:04...you can play it back at .25 speed to make it even slower.

I've been watching figure skating for many years. I remember all the discussions about Yuna and Mao's jumps, edges, their UR calls, etc.

My understanding has always been that an easy and accurate way to determine the fully backward position of a jump is to look at the direction the skater is moving in the air.

If you look at the above slo-mo of the direction Ilia is moving in the air and where his blade first hits the ice, that looks to be within a quarter turn.

I don't see any UR. I've rewatched it several times and I don't see it. Curious about your thoughts.

 

[museksk8r]

About the UR call on Ilia's lutz--Initially I wasn't paying attention, but I looked at the slo-mo of the jump, and it doesn't look UR to me.

Here's the YouTube clip for anyone interested. The lutz slo-mo starts at 5:04...you can play it back at .25 speed to make it even slower.

I've been watching figure skating for many years. I remember all the discussions about Yuna and Mao's jumps, edges, their UR calls, etc.

My understanding has always been that an easy and accurate way to determine the fully backward position of a jump is to look at the direction the skater is moving in the air.

If you look at the above slo-mo of the direction Ilia is moving in the air and where his blade first hits the ice, that looks to be within a quarter turn.

I don't see any UR. I've rewatched it several times and I don't see it. Curious about your thoughts.

I noticed Ilia’s UR on the 4Lutz in real time right away. I think going right after Yuma’s massive score put more pressure on Ilia. He remarked in the press conference after that he didn’t expect to win the SP here and that he is intentionally trying to pace himself since he is skating 4 Olympic programs in the span of 6 days. I fully expect him to come out in the Team FS and be royally pissed off and deliver a redemptive free skate à la the Grand Prix Final in December to win the FS. I think he can win with 4 quads given that his main competitor is Shun Sato, but it will be interesting to see if he goes for his full arsenal of 7 quads.

 

[underrotatedflutz]

jun being 5 points behind ilia in PCS is criminal.

 

[SmileHappy34]

One final thing as rewatching men's short.
only two men got call on jumps when all should
Ilia and Daniel
Junhea is obvious the single axel

Yuma ur his combo and his last jump.

Not call

 

[SmileHappy34]

I noticed Ilia’s UR on the 4Lutz in real time right away. I think going right after Yuma’s massive score put more pressure on Ilia. He remarked in the press conference after that he didn’t expect to win the SP here and that he is intentionally trying to pace himself since he is skating 4 Olympic programs in the span of 6 days. I fully expect him to come out in the Team FS and be royally pissed off and deliver a redemptive free skate à la the Grand Prix Final in December to win the FS. I think he can win with 4 quads given that his main competitor is Shun Sato, but it will be interesting to see if he goes for his full arsenal of 7 quads.

It could have been.yuma should been called as well.

 

[SmileHappy34]

Gogolev scored 90.19 at Nebelhorn and 89.35 at Finlandia. Getting a 92 isn't out of line considering he's been consistent with his short. You may not agree, but that's how he's been scoring this season.

That is true.
Thank you