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the many ! Sakamoto has received since 2021 is contrary to an opinion that she has been favoured
No it isn't. Many of those calls could have been "e" but weren't, and the GOE from the judges is also not as punitive in comparison to other people with equal/better quality jumps, as already discussed with examples given, but you continue to ignore.

what I'm getting by "incredibly hard to execute" is that you still think it's alright for someone to be awarded +5 GOE on a 3Lz(e)<
Keep failing to understand the concept and jump mechanics. Shows how you haven't done these things yourself. High quality jumps exist across all spectrums of rotation. Does anyone in competition bother to try doing a perfect, gorgeous 1Axel or such things? No. But if someone ever did, then that's how it objectively deserves be judged.

Specifically not landing "backwards" is a literal skating skill, just not one that is currently worthwhile in the ISU system. A forwards landing ("<<") jump with multi rotations is exceedingly difficult to land with quality, to the point of impossibility at a certain amount of rotation. Good luck hitting a flowing forward edge off a huge jump like that. And even without that kind of landing, these kinds jumps are needlessly overpunished in the rules right now. Like Lu Chen doing a 3Toe+3Toe<< at the end of her iconic 1998 LP. There's no reason it should score less than a decent 3Toe+2Toe with the way she did it, and artistically it definitely added more to that moment.

Hah, which rules of yours were implemented by the ISU and where's a source crediting with you as such?
Speak with committee members and you'd know. Oh right, you're not in contact with them. Whereas I have countless correspondences going back nearly 20 years now, starting with my proposal to not fully downgrade < jumps; the scale of values I created was taken almost exactly and voted through in 2010. Somewhere on this forum at least a year prior to that I even listed the changes that we were confident would get implemented and the scoring differentials, and indeed that info I publicly provided is what came to pass.

Also, the sheer hypocrisy, I can't - You denigrate this organization and yet you boast about having passed their training and moreover contribute your time and effort to the very people that you mock! Pick a lane, sis.
That's not what hypocrisy is. You love to constantly say empty, wrong catchphrases.

It's possible to want an organization to improve while at the same time being highly critical of its poor decisions and systems. I don't extol the ISU training, there are tons of things I'd change, I simply stated I've done it and that the judges who get chosen don't have any superior level of knowledge or capability; and it's a fact that the ISU does not select judges on merit, rather on federation submission.

The hypocrisy is from you, acting like the "judges' scores" and whatever rules are infallible, when it suits you. You constantly use the most feeble fallacies of "you can't argue with this score or this rule, it's on paper after all and it's from the ISU, how dare you question it". But then of course when it doesn't suit you, you'll complain about a judge's score. By your own mis-logic, you should never be speaking on any of these topics at all, since you're not "a judge". People who are capable of higher level thinking, though, realize that superficial titles and status quos are not what determines the most accurate answer or level of expertise.
 
No it isn't. Many of those calls could have been "e" but weren't, and the GOE from the judges is also not as punitive in comparison to other people with equal/better quality jumps, as already discussed with examples given, but you continue to ignore.


Keep failing to understand the concept and jump mechanics. Shows how you haven't done these things yourself. High quality jumps exist across all spectrums of rotation. Does anyone in competition bother to try doing a perfect, gorgeous 1Axel or such things? No. But if someone ever did, then that's how it objectively deserves be judged.

Specifically not landing "backwards" is a literal skating skill, just not one that is currently worthwhile in the ISU system. A forwards landing ("<<") jump with multi rotations is exceedingly difficult to land with quality, to the point of impossibility at a certain amount of rotation. Good luck hitting a flowing forward edge off a huge jump like that. And even without that kind of landing, these kinds jumps are needlessly overpunished in the rules right now. Like Lu Chen doing a 3Toe+3Toe<< at the end of her iconic 1998 LP. There's no reason it should score less than a decent 3Toe+2Toe with the way she did it, and artistically it definitely added more to that moment.


Speak with committee members and you'd know. Oh right, you're not in contact with them. Whereas I have countless correspondences going back nearly 20 years now, starting with my proposal to not fully downgrade < jumps; the scale of values I created was taken almost exactly and voted through in 2010. Somewhere on this forum at least a year prior to that I even listed the changes that we were confident would get implemented and the scoring differentials, and indeed that info I publicly provided is what came to pass.


That's not what hypocrisy is. You love to constantly say empty, wrong catchphrases.

It's possible to want an organization to improve while at the same time being highly critical of its poor decisions and systems. I don't extol the ISU training, there are tons of things I'd change, I simply stated I've done it and that the judges who get chosen don't have any superior level of knowledge or capability; and it's a fact that the ISU does not select judges on merit, rather on federation submission.

The hypocrisy is from you, acting like the "judges' scores" and whatever rules are infallible, when it suits you. You constantly use the most feeble fallacies of "you can't argue with this score or this rule, it's on paper after all and it's from the ISU, how dare you question it". But then of course when it doesn't suit you, you'll complain about a judge's score. By your own mis-logic, you should never be speaking on any of these topics at all, since you're not "a judge". People who are capable of higher level thinking, though, realize that superficial titles and status quos are not what determines the most accurate answer or level of expertise.

Which committee members should I contact — the ones who have ghosted you, or the ones who have told you to stop constantly harassing them? :LOL:

And since you bring it up, what jumps/elements have YOU done yourself? You're allegedly a "former US National Level skater". Which year, which discipline, and which level?

LOL - OMG, are you really trying to credit yourself with the scale of values, in spite of being listed in exactly zero ISU communications?! Bahaha, all hail BoP... the founder of our scale of values. And paradoxically also one of the staunchest critics of the scale of values and rules, lol.

I'm guessing you're cut from the same cloth as Dave Lease - a sanctimonious, self-aggrandizer who thinks they know best and better than others... the type who, even when they're wrong, is always doubling down — yet can't even execute a double jump themselves.

Oh, and speaking of sanctimonious.... I'd tell you where to shove your "higher level thinking" but I doubt there's room, given how full of it you are.
 
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@Anna K. (Hey, I just noticed that I have to put a period at the end of your username to make it work :) ): Thank you for posting the Lingua Alina piece. I was not familiar with this blogger, but I looked her up. She apparently is a Russian language teacher and a Russian culture scholar. She is very blunt in this vid.
 
Does anyone know this vlogger? Is she doing figure skating content?


it looks like garbage even to me that i'm not a die hard russian women fan, with out of context images and uncorrect informations (like Yulia's gold). btw i make a better russian accent. fandom stuff in the age of misinformation i guess
 
Like Lu Chen doing a 3Toe+3Toe<< at the end of her iconic 1998 LP. There's no reason it should score less than a decent 3Toe+2Toe with the way she did it, and artistically it definitely added more to that moment.
I disagree with this. It wasn't an artistic choice made by Chen to try to do a 3Toe+3Toe<< ; she failed attempting a clean 3Toe+3Toe. There are a lot of things that can make jumps harder, like Ito's leg wrap, that aren't rewarded. I do agree that the rotation calls can be excessively punitive, but the skaters know the rules and should do the technical elements they are capable of executing cleanly.
 
btw i make a better russian accent. fandom stuff in the age of misinformation i guess
Nah, @Mathman is right. She is an actual Russian. I finally checked her other videos and the older ones are fully in Russian.
My explanation would be that she is not a fan at all; just a Russian who resides in the U.S. and makes videos about whatever is trending in the U.S. for her American subscribers. Hence she cares very little about what kind of gold Yulia won or what kind of eating disorder Yulia was diagnosed with... just like her subscribers, I guess.

In either case, I would prefer more sources to confirm or contradict what she said about the reaction of Russian fans.
 
Nah, @Mathman is right. She is an actual Russian. I finally checked her other videos and the older ones are fully in Russian.
My explanation would be that she is not a fan at all; just a Russian who resides in the U.S. and makes videos about whatever is trending in the U.S. for her American subscribers. Hence she cares very little about what kind of gold Yulia won or what kind of eating disorder Yulia was diagnosed with... just like her subscribers, I guess.

In either case, I would prefer more sources to confirm or contradict what she said about the reaction of Russian fans.
Every Russian figure skating podcast and YouTube channel I tuned into basically formed the Alisa Appreciation Society overnight. The consensus? The win was absolutely correct, fully deserved, stamped, sealed, and delivered. No debate, no drama — just unanimous agreement that she’s the undisputed champion. Aleksey Yagudin even went as far as saying some Russian skaters might want to take notes on Alisa’s attitude.

There was also rare, almost suspicious harmony about Adeliya — including from Eteri — that she was judged fairly and landed exactly where she should have. No conspiracy boards required.

As for Petr, a few commentators felt the tech panel was a bit stingier with him compared to others — perhaps a case of “welcome to the big leagues.” Still, they agreed he needs a bit more experience to iron out certain issues.

And despite what the internet loves to speculate about, I didn’t hear a single commentator mention Alisa’s body. Sure, YouTube comments can get wild — but nothing more dramatic than your average another site thread on any given Tuesday.
 
"After the Beijing Olympics, I had the peak of my career," said Hendrickx. "Then I struggled with an ankle injury. In two days, it will be exactly one year since I had surgery on my ankle. It was a big surgery. So just qualifying for this event felt like a dream come true. I worked so hard, and to achieve that was just an amazing feeling."

I would love to see her at 100% and hope it happens before she retires.

 
well... granted Canadians are less passionate about women's figure skating... There are a lot of posts about a popped jump from Maddie on social media... and that one was costly.... It's really too bad. No wonder why people get out of sports... it's really hard to be a public persona.
I am not famous or anything but once I went to the grocery store and some dude recognized me from a concert I had just done. It was a very nice and polite interaction but it freaked me out. It's not cool. Really not cool. So I cannot imagine how awful it must be when the comments are negative. I also personally don't talk to skaters at competitions because I don't want to get in their way (I know a lot of fans are nice and like to talk to them and that skaters appreciate it... but because of my own awareness about being recognized I just don't. I stay out of it). I even have never told Patrick how much I love his skating and I had him right in front of me :)

So skaters, stay out of social media. Please... For every 1 nice post, there are 1000 nasty ones. Not worth it.
 
Every Russian figure skating podcast and YouTube channel I tuned into basically formed the Alisa Appreciation Society overnight. The consensus? The win was absolutely correct, fully deserved, stamped, sealed, and delivered. No debate, no drama — just unanimous agreement that she’s the undisputed champion. Aleksey Yagudin even went as far as saying some Russian skaters might want to take notes on Alisa’s attitude.

There was also rare, almost suspicious harmony about Adeliya — including from Eteri — that she was judged fairly and landed exactly where she should have. No conspiracy boards required.

As for Petr, a few commentators felt the tech panel was a bit stingier with him compared to others — perhaps a case of “welcome to the big leagues.” Still, they agreed he needs a bit more experience to iron out certain issues.

And despite what the internet loves to speculate about, I didn’t hear a single commentator mention Alisa’s body. Sure, YouTube comments can get wild — but nothing more dramatic than your average another site thread on any given Tuesday.
Great post! I really appreciate knowing about what some folks in Russia are saying! Especially from Yagudin. He was my favorite male skater of his era!

Btw, it's Alysa - not Alisa. 😁
 
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