A fair way to pick GPF finalists?

[sowcow]

That's our job. :yes: As you document, we're pretty good at it.

Indeed! 5 golden(skate) stars for everyone!! ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

 

[sowcow]

Well, others might say that silence can also speak volumes. Feel free to disagree.

Actually, I absolutely agree! In fact, I'd be one of those "others"!

But, even if you believe that the ISU's silence somehow indicates an eventual difficult / convoluted / conspiratorial decision; nonetheless, a silent ISU hardly equates to "...endless, needless drama"!! That was my point.

I hate to say it ... but "let's cut the ISU a little slack!"

 

[temadd]

Actually, I absolutely agree! In fact, I'd be one of those "others"!

But, even if you believe that the ISU's silence somehow indicates an eventual difficult / convoluted / conspiratorial decision; nonetheless, a silent ISU hardly equates to "...endless, needless drama"!! That was my point.

I hate to say it ... but "let's cut the ISU a little slack!"

I prefer that they not come to a hasty decision.

 

[Mrs. P]

Waiting now for the ISU to do their's.

Grammar police! The ISU is a single entity organization made up of federations. Hence you would use its not their's.

Sorry couldn't resist.

 

[Mathman]

Oh, those collective nouns. The Detroit Lions is languishing in last place.

 

[ManyCairns]

Grammar police! The ISU is a single entity organization made up of federations. Hence you would use its not their's.

Sorry couldn't resist.

Yah, except it is "theirs" with no apostrophe.

 

[waxel]

Mrs. P ... please no grammar police on GS! LOL. I have a number of friends on fb who are grammar NAZIS. It's exhausting.

On topic... with nothing stated thus far it seems plausible that the ISU will wait until after CoR to make a determination/announcement. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

This is my first time to post on this thread... but in general I tend to agree with all thoughts from MM!

 

[Amei]

On topic... with nothing stated thus far it seems plausible that the ISU will wait until after CoR to make a determination/announcement. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Get your tin-foil hats out - are they possibly waiting to see how some skaters do at CoR to determine how to use TEB.

 

[mrrice]

Mrs. P ... please no grammar police on GS! LOL. I have a number of friends on fb who are grammar NAZIS. It's exhausting.

On topic... with nothing stated thus far it seems plausible that the ISU will wait until after CoR to make a determination/announcement. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

This is my first time to post on this thread... but in general I tend to agree with all thoughts from MM!

The ISU should have delivered a "Status Update" by now. Even if that update states....To Whom It May Concern "We're working diligently to find a solution to the scoring situation at TEB." "Thank you for your patients in this matter and we'll deliver a final statement the moment we come to a decision."

 

[Sai Bon]

Mrs. P ... please no grammar police on GS! LOL. I have a number of friends on fb who are grammar NAZIS. It's exhausting.

On topic... with nothing stated thus far it seems plausible that the ISU will wait until after CoR to make a determination/announcement. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

This is my first time to post on this thread... but in general I tend to agree with all thoughts from MM![/QUOTE

I believe if the noun is plural (regardless of whether the meaning is singular, e.g., "sales"), you treat is as plural. In the case of the ISU, it *should* be singular. However, colloquially, at least in British English, there is an acceptance of using the plural verb (and pronouns) for organizations. You could argue that organizations are a collection of individuals, so they are plural by implication. It gets even more confusing, as in BrE "staff" (staff members) is often treated as plural, e.g., "the staff are on strike".

I'll shut up now and get back to what I should be writing

 

[Mrs. P]

Mrs. P ... please no grammar police on GS! LOL. I have a number of friends on fb who are grammar NAZIS. It's exhausting.

On topic... with nothing stated thus far it seems plausible that the ISU will wait until after CoR to make a determination/announcement. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

This is my first time to post on this thread... but in general I tend to agree with all thoughts from MM!

Don't worry it won't be a regular thing. I just encounter that particular rule in my writing it just popped out!

 

[Snow63]

If there will be regular grammar police here, I'll be arrested forever

 

[blancanieves]

But ... it also is significant that the ISU has held off from updating skater bios with TEB placements -- as discussed both in this thread and the other one. (The bio of Rodighiero, a Rostelecom entry, is an exception.)

So I do not feel sure at all that the ISU has made a decision to use TEB SP placements as final.

Usually the ISU bios are updated within hours of the conclusion of a GP. It does not take long at all to get the updating done.

In the case of TEB, the ISU clearly has made a choice not to go forward with all the updating yet.

World Standings is the most important information chart for the skating season underway. And it only gets updated if WS points are earned, in other words, when the final results of a competition are recorded. All TEB skaters have received their corresponding number of points for placements 1st through 8th. Clearly, the short program placements were used as the final results for TEB.

What remains to be communicated is whether the proposal(s) to add competitors to the GPF (to offset tie-break complications resulting from TEB missing free program scores) will go through. The ISU cannot make an announcement until they research the budget and logistical implications of implementing such proposal(s).

 

[Mathman]

I believe if the noun is plural (regardless of whether the meaning is singular, e.g., "sales"), you treat is as plural. In the case of the ISU, it *should* be singular. However, colloquially, at least in British English, there is an acceptance of using the plural verb (and pronouns) for organizations. You could argue that organizations are a collection of individuals, so they are plural by implication. It gets even more confusing, as in BrE "staff" (staff members) is often treated as plural, e.g., "the staff are on strike".

I could go either way on the grammar, but I like your Location. :yes:

 

[ice coverage]

.... Clearly, the short program placements were used as the final results for TEB. ...

Whether it is clear or not is a matter of opinion. For the reason I previously have stated, it remains unclear to me:

The bios of most TEB skaters still have not been updated -- almost 48 hours since the World Standings charts were updated. Something is holding the ISU back from updating the bios of most TEB skaters -- including (for example) Shoma; Gracie; Tatiana/Max; and Madi/Zach.

If the SP placements were final, I see no reason why the bios of Shoma; Gracie; Tatiana/Max; and Madi/Zach would not already show that they placed first at TEB. Etc., etc.

If the SP placements were final, the placements could be added to all the bios .. even if the GP qualification process has not been decided.

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

Expecting strange things


"keep ISU weird "

 

[GF2445]

I dont like the fact that they havent released a statement or a communication.

 

[Sai Bon]

I could go either way on the grammar, but I like your Location. :yes:

Dear me, I have no idea how that could have happened

 

[Mathman]

Dear me, I have no idea how that could have happened

I thought it was a joke based on A to Z. A-land to Z-land.

 

[gravy]

Whether it is clear or not is a matter of opinion. For the reason I previously have stated, it remains unclear to me:

The bios of most TEB skaters still have not been updated -- almost 48 hours since the World Standings charts were updated. Something is holding the ISU back from updating the bios of most TEB skaters -- including (for example) Shoma; Gracie; Tatiana/Max; and Madi/Zach.

If the SP placements were final, I see no reason why the bios of Shoma; Gracie; Tatiana/Max; and Madi/Zach would not already show that they placed first at TEB. Etc., etc.

If the SP placements were final, the placements could be added to all the bios .. even if the GP qualification process has not been decided.

The points Rodeghiero received for placing third at TEB allowed her to move up in the world standings from #26 to #17 and into the second warm up group at the RC ahead of Sotnikova, Helgesson, and Chartrand. The time schedule released by the ISU can be seen here: http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1516/gprus2015/gprus2015_Ladies_SP_TimeSchedule.pdf

Her bio along with Peng/Zheng's were probably updated ASAP because they were the only two to be competing at the RC after TEB. Perhaps the ISU had bigger fish to fry than worrying about some little internet biography that hardly anyone visits anyway.

Whether you're too stubborn enough to acknowledge it or not is your problem, but the SP standing for Rodeghiero was clearly used as the final result or she wouldn't have moved up in the start order. I have no idea why that would that would only be applied to this Italian lady and not every other skater at TEB.

In case you were wondering, P/Z's placement in the world standings after TEB did not affect their start order.