Alena Kostornaia
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Lakernik's intervention so that she gets two new programs gave me the impression that the Federation, while denying it publicly, felt they had failed to protect her against CoViD, and among the most promising skaters, she had the most serious one, and it was their way to "make amends". Did it go further (by suggesting her to go back to Eteri Tutberidze)? I really don't know. They may think she will recover her level better there than with Plushenko, and given the "TeamTutberidze bonuses" given at championship, they must consider her the best Russian Ladies coach. About coaching, I have absolutely no idea. Her living near her rink was perfect (2½ hours each way to Khrystalny from her home!) But given how severe her CoViD was, and given that she had a sore throat a few weeks later, I confess I suspect her diet was not good enough to boost her immunity, and this may be held somehow against Angels of Plushenko (but after all, does Russian Federation consider diet and immunity at all?)
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Oh my God you said a mouthful and all insightful.
I had no idea AK had a sore Throat recently.
Hopefully the federation says to all their skaters and coaches take the proper vitamins and nutritional drinks to strengthen the immune system and fight off Corona virus. Of course it's really up to the parents but with the kids training in then in school for who knows how many hours a day coaches and the federation have a lot of responsibility.
If Aliona does leave PAI hope she says thank you publicly and wish them the best.
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Why would this be a sore point? Her season is over. This is not unlike clearing out your locker when your season is over.
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I can't believe my eyes Have I actually read something here that Alyona should have kept the coronavirus off with the right diet? Dear people, you can't possibly be serious. Take valerian and turn on the brain. And regarding the recurring argument "Do you really think Aljona would do this or that? She would be stupid if". I can imagine that very well after everything that has happened. If someone had told the story a year ago, just as it happened later, everyone would have laughed and answered Do you really think someone would be so stupid and ...? ".
Incidentally, it is easy to evaluate decisions when you are not yourself in the stressful situation. In the end, all you can do is wish the girl luck and hope never to end up on the operating table of neurosurgeon Kostornaia.
Incidentally, it is easy to evaluate decisions when you are not yourself in the stressful situation. In the end, all you can do is wish the girl luck and hope never to end up on the operating table of neurosurgeon Kostornaia.
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Like with angina=heart problems, one wrongly translated press release gives a go to thousands of rumors.
Unless there are some other sources, in that press release after Rostelecom the comment of Ermolina basically was that Aliona isn’t skating her programs to their full potential, namely that they need further polish and that not much time is left before nationals to do that.
No officials commented on her programs being “bad”, and the comments about programs are usually given at test skates, in private. If i.e. her SP was approved then, all the changes thereafter are already coach’s choice. All the program changing habalooloo is solely coach’s initiative in this case.
Liza changed her program too haphazardly, and I doubt RusFed was like “you better skate to Billie Eilish”
GAH, Aliona drama always happens when I don't have time to write as much as I want to!
So I'll be brief...
I have no idea what Aliona is thinking, or if there's stuff going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. And we may never know.
But I stand by what I said over the weekend:
I'm going to keep supporting Aliona, both as a skater and a person, no matter what!
And all I want is for her to be healthy, and happy!
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I was going to post about the Cup Final when the news broke, so now it seems it was a whole world ago, 'cause the big news has overwritten it (and everything else). Well, it's no secret here that I was not happy about her decision leaving TT last summer (especially the way she left left a bitter taste in my mouth), but life goes on, if she had to go, she had to and I, as a fan can do nothing but accept her decision and support her no matter what. She's obviously been struggling throughout the whole season, nothing's worked out really well for her ever since she left TT. (Now I'm not going say anything about the series of questionable strategic decisions made by her coaching team...) Still, against all odds, she did quite well at the Russian Cup Final. Of course, it was a far cry from her top form, but she proved to be a great fighter and a very strong character. (To be honest, after the short and the morning training on Sunday, I had a great fear of a total meltdown in the free, but thank God, nothing like that happened.) I think Aliona has a very impulsive and headstrong personality, which can both serve her well and sometimes not very well. She's "skating"on very thin ice in this situation, because she can lose a lot (even everything) if she's not very careful from now on. Hopefully, she'll be taken back by ET and she'll get every chance to get back to her top form and fulfill her potential. Also, I really hope she'll be able to restore the good relationships with the coaches. (I hope Daniil will be more open for that than with EM...
)OK, news has just come in: She has been taken back. Yay!!!
Bye-bye AOP.
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Aliona catching coronavirus and then not being able to shake its after effects has changed everything this season.
OMG. We're having a lot going on this season aren't we
I tried to clear my thoughts before writing something down but this whole thing is just ... hard to digest.
She seems really upset and panicking.
I thought she did okay at the Russian Cup Final everything taken into consideration but she is not used to finishing sixth and if Anna and Sasha were in the event that would have been eighth. I think that shook her up too.
We really don't know what plushie and Rozonov could have done with her because she was not healthy.
Good luck to Aliona back at TT. And shame on those who are angry with her.
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I was going to post the same...
https://www.instagram.com/stories/daniil_gleikhengauz/2521907174784711997/
https://www.instagram.com/stories/daniil_gleikhengauz/2521907174784711997/
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Where have you read about she would not have had coronavirus if she had the right diet? As we all know it was just bad luck. And the after effects of coronavirus were devastating for her season at PA. Aliona never got healthy enough to show her best there.
And what's with the neurosurgeon dig? How she is at 17 may have no bearing how she is at 30 as a mature woman.
What Aliona is going through are growing pains. That's life.
Let's just hope Aliona can get healthy and find her form again. I am surprised she's back at TT but I can only wish her well.
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I am sorry if you misunderstood me.
A great number of surveys now, show that a lack of some nutrients (vitamins C & D, Zink...) make people much more likely to catch CoViD 19 than if they hadn't. (No combined survey to this date, as far as I know, only a number of surveys on each of these nutrients taken separately.) Which is consistent with theoretical models and previous surveys on other diseases. Yet, even with the right diet, a skater remains frail to any infection (caught at the moment or not long before) at the end of an exhausting skating session.
But once the bug is there, the status in vitamins (C?), D, K and in Zinc is a strong predictor of the outcome. So, if a skater gets it and becomes seriously ill, it may arouse suspicions, and even some judgement. I have said nothing more, because there is nothing more. As far as I know, there is no survey of the outcome of CoViD patients with or without a combination of all these nutrients, only each nutrient taken separately, and then, only on mortality, or need of ICU, or of hospitalisation, I have never read anything differentiating between mild and moderate symptoms, because it would be hard to avoid subjectivity, and also because few people use all their lungs and heart and stamina capacity everyday, so it seems to be generally thought that it doesn't matter. But as these nutrients are closely related to the need of hospitalisation or ICU, or to the risk of death, our mind tends to extrapolate and to think that an early administration of these nutrients may often advert a moderate illness, and tend to admit a sort of reciprocal, that a young person with moderate symptoms may have not had the right nutrients, and sometimes forget the "may"... hence suspicions.
About her value as a neurosurgeon, I can tell you that if she does become one (medicine students often change their initial preference when they discover other domains or admire a professor etc, I think otherwise there would be no great gynaecologist/obstetrician or gut specialist or other "less glamour" domains), I would certainly prefer (for myself) an intervention by her, even young and less experienced than others, than by a random neurosurgeon. I am sure she would be extremely serious and focused and intelligent and all what makes a great surgeon, and that her hands skill may match her legs one, which makes a dramatic difference even between great surgeons, and particularly in neurosurgery.
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I think we all know now that vitamin C vitamin D3 and zinc in particular are key vitamins to strengthen your immunity system and to try to fight off colds flu viruses including Coronavirus. I have no idea of the Russian Federation had their skaters take these vitamins or if their parents had their children take these vitamins. Zinc on an empty stomach is brutal.
But I think there's enough information out there now on what vitamins to take athlete or not aliona or not.
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A nuance though. Nothing worked well before she left Team Tutberidze too. At least she thought so. Maybe she was too impatient to get her 3A back given her growth spurt and it influenced her decision, this I really don't know. But she got it back only mid-November as she said at Rostelecom Cup.I was going to post about the Cup Final when the news broke, so now it seems it was a whole world ago, 'cause the big news has overwritten it (and everything else). Well, it's no secret here that I was not happy about her decision leaving TT last summer (especially the way she left left a bitter taste in my mouth), but life goes on, if she had to go, she had to and I, as a fan can do nothing but accept her decision and support her no matter what. She's obviously been struggling throughout the whole season, nothing's worked out really well for her ever since she left TT. (Now I'm not going say anything about the series of questionable strategic decisions made by her coaching team...) Still, against all odds, she did quite well at the Russian Cup Final. Of course, it was a far cry from her top form, but she proved to be a great fighter and a very strong character. (To be honest, after the short and the morning training on Sunday, I had a great fear of a total meltdown in the free, but thank God, nothing like that happened.) I think Aliona has a very impulsive and headstrong personality, which can both serve her well and sometimes not very well. She's "skating"on very thin ice in this situation, because she can lose a lot (even everything) if she's not very careful from now on. Hopefully, she'll be taken back by ET and she'll get every chance to get back to her top form and fulfill her potential. Also, I really hope she'll be able to restore the good relationships with the coaches. (I hope Daniil will be more open for that than with EM...
OK, news has just come in: She has been taken back. Yay!!!
Also, as to the way they parted, I think things have been cleared later. It seems that both Eteri Tutberidze and Daniil Gleichengauz had a strong resentment and feeling of treason over her sole departure, and saw everything gloomy and had wishful thinking, hence their declarations but at the end, there was very little "hard truth" in them. I think too, that understanding what had happened have helped them since, and I don't think they will express so publicly their thoughts of the moment in the future, if another student goes. (Of course they will have such thoughts, because they are so invested in each of their pupils.) But we don't know. At least I think Alena Kostornaia understood how they would feel when she would announce her departure, and it may have made her clumsy in her explanations, but this is just an idea.
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