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SkateSkates said:
Has anyone heard if there will be a stream or videos from the Bolzano Passion Gala Aliona is performing in on the 4th? I’ve been searching but haven’t been able to find anything yet.
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As far as I can tell, there won't be an official stream or videos, so I guess we'll just have to hope for fan vids!

Good luck to Aliona in the show today! :hap10:

She did a 3A+2T in the dark in practice yesterday :eeking: so I guess the 3A is finally her "friend"! :yes2:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B63Z24uHuz4/

Lots of practice photos!
https://www.instagram.com/p/B63qhSwJexn/
I especially love the bite one! :laugh:

I wasn't expecting her to perform the EX version of her "Twilight" program! :eek: Hopefully she doesn't get confused in the middle!

With Liza :luv17:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B63ZxXMJ45W/

And backstage:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B628g4TpJ0X/

I'm happy to see Aliona chatting with Sasha and Vanya. :luv17: Aliona also posted videos of them practicing in her IG stories! I'm happy not only because I really like Stepanova/Bukin as an ice dance team, but also because I think it would be nice for Aliona to have a big sister/big brother-like friends outside her discipline. :yes: Like how Alina has Tiffani Zagorski, and Lena Radionova had Lena Ilinykh and Ksenia Stolbova. :agree:

I also think that Aliona and Liza could get along pretty well because they both like to joke around. :biggrin:
 
Azikin said:
That must have been difficult for her to be friendly with someone who was bullying her earlier this year.. maybe Liza apologized? I doubt it..
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Eteri's team are all unfailingly professional. .. part of their training I guess
 
elbkup said:
Eteri's team are all unfailingly professional. .. part of their training I guess
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it has to be because these young ladies are impeccable even the ones that don't make it big are impeccable off the ice.

sk8kirsty said:
Was Liza actually bullying Alёna? Why? And how do you know?
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I don't recall any outward bullying but I think she may have been dismissive of Aliona and her very high scores. But someone with more knowledge on situation could clarify that.
 
sk8kirsty said:
Was Liza actually bullying Alёna? Why? And how do you know?
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If the posters are referring to the same thing that I am, then the rumored bullying occurred at Aliona’s challenger event. During the award ceremony the video shows that Liza slightly bumped Aliona to the side and ignored her during a conversation. So, Aliona stood by Daniil or by herself while she was waiting for the awards. Whether Liza actually verbally bullied Aliona I believe is still unknown. This is all interpretative because it’s not like Liza was verbally bullying Aliona and Aliona wasn’t crying (at least in front of the camera). To me the video did look like she was ignoring Aliona and slightly bullying her, but others on the forum didn’t believe so. There isn’t much evidence so, in my opinion it can go either way.
 
I’m pretty sure if anything happened at Finlandia (which we don’t know for sure), it’s all fine now. We saw them sitting next to each other and in little videos interacting and there seemed to be no bad blood between them at all. They are probably not best friends due to the age difference but there didn’t seem to be any issues between them from the show. Aliona seemed to be communicating just fine with all of the older skaters in the show.
 
Good Vibes Only said:
If the posters are referring to the same thing that I am, then the rumored bullying occurred at Aliona’s challenger event. During the award ceremony the video shows that Liza slightly bumped Aliona to the side and ignored her during a conversation. So, Aliona stood by Daniil or by herself while she was waiting for the awards. Whether Liza actually verbally bullied Aliona I believe is still unknown. This is all interpretative because it’s not like Liza was verbally bullying Aliona and Aliona wasn’t crying (at least in front of the camera). To me the video did look like she was ignoring Aliona and slightly bullying her, but others on the forum didn’t believe so. There isn’t much evidence so, in my opinion it can go either way.
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For what it's worth, I don't think Liza was bullying Aliona at all at the Finlandia medal ceremony... Sure, as an Aliona fan, I was sad to see Aliona standing all by herself while the others were talking and joking around, and yes, perhaps Liza and Betina/Sergey could have tried to include her in the conversation, but it's not really their job to hang out with the younger skaters, in my opinion. And while Aliona may have been a bit miffed at the time, my guess is that she understood that Liza would rather joke around with her good friends than with some "kid" that she barely knows. :yes: Which is why there were no hard feelings, and we can get cute photos like this one (scroll right to the second pic):
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6_VsV6pm3t/ :love:

And I stand by what I said earlier--my guess is that Aliona and Liza would actually get along quite well despite the age difference because they're both outgoing, sunny people who like to joke around. :biggrin:
 
SkateSkates said:
I’m pretty sure if anything happened at Finlandia (which we don’t know for sure), it’s all fine now. We saw them sitting next to each other and in little videos interacting and there seemed to be no bad blood between them at all. They are probably not best friends due to the age difference but there didn’t seem to be any issues between them from the show. Aliona seemed to be communicating just fine with all of the older skaters in the show.
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Well, the problem never was in Alyona.
And Liza received a pretty big negative reaction from Alyona's fans for her behavior towards Alyona in Finland. She even justified herself in the instagram "I pushed Alyona? How do you imagine that? bla-bla-bla", but the famous video speaks for itself. So Liza decided to be professional for a change. As they say - better late than never. The main thing was that she made the right conclusions - in business, fundamentally tied to emotional perception and image, you need to behave professionally and decently at any second. At least in public.
 
Orlov said:
Well, the problem never was in Alyona.
And Liza received a pretty big negative reaction from Alyona's fans for her behavior towards Alyona in Finland. She even justified herself in the instagram "I pushed Alyona? How do you imagine that? bla-bla-bla", but the famous video speaks for itself. So Liza decided to be professional for a change. As they say - better late than never. The main thing was that she made the right conclusions - in business, fundamentally tied to emotional perception and image, you need to behave professionally and decently at any second. At least in public.
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Oh yes, I didn’t mean to imply the problem was Aliona!

Either way, I would like to give Liza the benefit of the doubt for her behavior - I wasn’t there so I can’t know what happened. Recently Aliona has been receiving some “backlash” for her behavior as well, when in reality she’s just a self confident, outgoing little jokester which is a bit different than how she physically appears (angelic) or how people expect her to act (which isn’t fair). IMO I agree with you Batsuchan - her personality is probably pretty similar to Liza who also seems to have a good sense of humor and is confident in who she is. I would imagine them being friendly if they were closer in age and not direct competitors. But based on all the pictures and videos there seem to be no issues between Aliona and any of the other skaters. I even saw a little clip of her talking to Sasha Stepanova and of course there’s the amazingly hilarious video of Javi scaring her. So all is well and I hope she had fun at her first big show on her own without any of her training mates who have all been around at her other shows (Alina, Anna or Sasha).
 
vesperalvioletta said:
Personally I wouldn't consider the aforementioned Finlandia situation bullying. To me, bullying suggests intentional physical or verbal harrassment, and I don't see what happened as that.
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Demonstrative ignoring, ostentatious disrespect - in these things, too, little pleasant. Justification of Lisa's behavior by the fact that "well, she didn't beat Alena" doesn't look convincing.

I also don't think that it's her responsibility to pal around with other skaters. I believe Betina and Liza are very close, and even with the best of intentions, it can be difficult to make a third person feel included within such a close friendship.
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They are so close, that they had come up with a new format for skating in a circle of honor - holding hands with the three of them, and for another ten seconds they tried to convince Madison and Evan to support this format. Those looked with bewilderment at this clowning and then just waved Alena, showing her to go between them and this merry trio.

They are so close that when Alyona comes up to them, Liza feels that quietly push her away or defiantly turning her back on her - it's just her duty to their wonderful friendship with Betina.
 
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