Alena Kostornaia

[Batsuchan]

Well I am absolutely STUNNED! :eeking: :eeking:

I did feel like it was a huge blow for Aliona when Rozanov left to join Plushenko's team, but never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined that Aliona would transfer to Plushenko!!!

Apparently all Aliona had to say was "no comment":
https://rsport.ria.ru/20200731/1575227627.html

I don't know if I believe Eteri's comment that Aliona didn't want to skate with the other girls...
But, at the same time, I can also imagine our willful brat making a demand like that, so...

We may never know the "true" reasons why she left, but if I had to guess--it would be because of Rozanov. Aliona had said early on that he was her favorite coach, and when she was feeling depressed after last year's test skates, he was the one who helped her regain her triple axel.

I also wonder if Plushenko's team offered her some other incentives (like helping her find sponsors, etc.). And if that's the case, I do feel like Aliona should take all the sponsorships she can get while she can--since she's planning to retire after the Olympic season.

I'm not sure what this means for Aliona's future as a skater. On one hand, I am very skeptical of Plushenko's abilities as a coach... In addition, I have never seen a senior Russian lady make a coaching change and have better results with the new coaching team.

But on the other hand, it's not a completely new team since Rozanov is there, and I am glad that they'll be working together again. :yes:
I wonder if this means we could see Aliona work with other choreographers in the future...? If so that could be really cool for her. I would love to see what Shae-Lynn Bourne could do with her, for example. Or within Russia, maybe Peter Tchernyshev...

I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
I will continue to root for Aliona!

 

[macy]

i wouldn't doubt Rozanov will be her main coach, if she liked him that much. same with Trusova.

 

[dunffvanstorn]

To get her program done. It isn't always a matter of the few days. Also while transfer could be agreed in May the paperwork still has to be done. Also remember that SAMBO-70 isn't only the club but the school and I guess she wanted to complete her academic year before moving to the new school.

The thing is... why would they make her good programs if she would switch teams?

 

[Colonel Green]

Alena’s a really noteworthy case among Eteri’s departing stars, because unlike Yulia, Evgenia or Alexandra it’s hard to argue that growth or competitive disappointment were big issues for her, at least based on what we know.

 

[macy]

The thing is... why would they make her good programs if she would switch teams?

Eteri commented on her post that they did not know about the switch yet. i assume since Aliona stayed to get her programs done, she will keep them. i'm sure she did this with her own best interest in mind, since it's already August and did not want to have to worry about choreographing new programs while getting used to a new training base.

 

[littlesheep]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDT8xI9oLtN/
Now Daniil has responded so we have to accept that the news is true.

translation (copied from the comment):
he said it happens at work. Alena started acting strange only in the middle of July. And after one of the trainings, she said that she would not train anymore. And that the decision was made in May. Daniil Markovich did not believe it, as she sincerely enjoyed the new programs. However, this turned out to be true. He asks them not to feel sorry for them, as this is work. But it is difficult for children-athletes to believe and open up after this.

 

[bouncy]

Well I am absolutely STUNNED! :eeking: :eeking:
We may never know the "true" reasons why she left, but if I had to guess--it would be because of Rozanov. Aliona had said early on that he was her favorite coach, and when she was feeling depressed after last year's test skates, he was the one who helped her regain her triple axel.

I feel the same. Remember in the Olympic Channel interview in mid July https://www.olympicchannel.com/en/s...tornaia-exclusive-beijing-tutberidze-surgeon/, where she mentioned she hasn’t yet got her trixel back. I think that might trigger her to move to Plushenko's academy.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDT8xI9oLtN/
he said it happens at work. Alena started acting strange only in the middle of July. And after one of the trainings, she said that she would not train anymore.

And this, just to some extent confirmed my speculation.

Well I am absolutely STUNNED! :eeking: :eeking:
I wonder if this means we could see Aliona work with other choreographers in the future...? If so that could be really cool for her. I would love to see what Shae-Lynn Bourne could do with her, for example. Or within Russia, maybe Peter Tchernyshev...

I’m still worried but I do feel this opens up some new possibilities on her artistic sides. I’d love to see her working with other choreographers, considering she’s planning to retire after Beijing. And I would be thrilled to see a short with Shae and a long with David Wilson in the olympic season.

 

[Jeanie19]

I think there is time to get new programs. I would love Averbukh for short and Lambiel for the long program.

 

[Fluture]

Eteri said in an interview that a few days prior to Aliona‘s exit she felt “unwell“ and then left the camp “citing health problems“. I never know how much to trust but I just hope Aliona‘s not injured...

 

[fabienne1996]

https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2619564

Plushenko: Kostornaya decided to radically change the team, why - you need to ask her

The coach noted that the skater herself expressed a desire to move to his group two weeks ago.

The European figure skating champion Alena Kostornaya made the decision to radically change the team herself, the athlete is focused only on sports. Two-time Olympic champion Evgeny Plushenko told TASS about this, to whose team Kostornaya decided to move from the group of Eteri Tutberidze.

On Friday, Tutberidze announced the transition of the athlete to the Plushenko group. In this off-season, another student left Tutberidze for Plushenko - the winner of the European Championship Alexandra Trusov.

"Alena herself expressed a desire to join my group two weeks ago, she wanted to skate in" Plushenko's Angels "under my leadership and the guidance of Sergei Rozanov. Before that, we did not even know each other. If she had such thoughts before, then this nothing was known, "Plushenko said." I can't say what didn’t suit her, and whether it didn’t, it would be better to ask her herself, I can only say that she decided to radically change the team. "

"She did not have any specific wishes - she just wanted to train, prepare for the Olympics, she is absolutely geared towards sports. We did not even discuss the financial component of the issue, but if something is needed, I will take everything upon myself - I have the opportunity do it, and I don’t be stingy, ”Plushenko stressed.

"This is a sport, and we, of course, will work with Alena on quadruple jumps. She hasn’t skated for a long time - we will restore everything anew, we will put on new programs. We will change the ones that we have set, definitely - these will be our programs, We will stage with Serezha, and if we need choreographers, we will invite the best. And there are thoughts about these programs - Alena and I have been communicating for two weeks already, and proposals on this matter have already been made to her, and she liked them, "Plushenko said.

When asked by TASS if Plushenko is aware of the responsibility he takes upon himself by taking on the team two of the most promising singles in Russia, he replied: “We are ready for anything, and even if there is some kind of misfire, life is not We have a professional approach to training, to work, now we have a strong team, and with the arrival of Seryozha Rozanov it has definitely strengthened, this is a great professional whom we value, cherish and respect. "

“I understood responsibility when Trusova came to us, when [Veronika] Zhilina came to us. We are not afraid of responsibility, we are ready to work, ready to work, which we do every day. by the fireplace, watching TV, as many others do, "Plushenko stressed.

Alexandra Trusova, who already works at Angels Plushenko, reacted normally to Kostornaya's transition. "Everything is fine, she is ready to train. And the fact that Alena wants to skate on the ice alone is nonsense, she has no problems with this, and today she voiced it to me. From tomorrow Alena starts the training process - the academy has been fully operational for a long time, now more than 120 children train there, so the process starts, we start moving, "Plushenko noted.

https://tass.ru/sport/9099937

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[fabienne1996]

So was of now we have two versions . 1. Eteris and co's one that she loved the programms and that she told them a few weeks ago that she decided on the change in may or 2. Plushenkos that she didnt like the programms , and that she only approached him 2 weeks ago. And that they had not even talked before that time. Well and she is getting new programms

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[Fluture]

Well, Aliona will be getting new programs, that‘s confirmed. Let‘s hope for something good.

 

[patee]

I've been in a shock ever since the news was broken... I'm totally devastated and simply can't recover. Aliona, but WHY for God's sake?! I've been trying to get all the information that is available since I first bumped into the unthinkable news on Insta, but the whole thing is just getting messier and messier. I'm afraid we won't ever get to know what the truth is, but at the moment I just feel really, really sad and disappointed. I really like Team Tutberidze, it is (was) amazing to see so many extremely talented skaters together in one group and I really thought that there was some kind of special bond between these girls... I was in a dream and now it seems I was wrong. I must recognise that such a team can't exist and work healthily. Sooner or later these very talented and ambitious individuals will turn against each other, because figure skating is NOT a team sport. All of them want to win and want the glory for themselves... Sorry for my negativity, I mean it when I'm saying I'm totally devastated...

 

[flanker]

I've been in a shock ever since the news was broken... I'm totally devastated and simply can't recover. Aliona, but WHY for God's sake?! I've been trying to get all the information that is available since I first bumped into the unthinkable news on Insta, but the whole thing is just getting messier and messier. I'm afraid we won't ever get to know what the truth is, but at the moment I just feel really, really sad and disappointed. I really like Team Tutberidze, it is (was) amazing to see so many extremely talented skaters together in one group and I really thought that there was some kind of special bond between these girls... I was in a dream and now it seems I was wrong. I must recognise that such a team can't exist and work healthily. Sooner or later these very talented and ambitious individuals will turn against each other, because figure skating is NOT a team sport. All of them want to win and want the glory for themselves... Sorry for my negativity, I mean it when I'm saying I'm totally devastated...

All this would be much easier for me if Aliona (and Sasha before) were moving to team I trust.

 

[sclloyd]

https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2619564

On Friday, Tutberidze announced the transition of the athlete to the Plushenko group. In this off-season, another student left Tutberidze for Plushenko - the winner of the European Championship Alexandra Trusov.

"Alena herself expressed a desire to join my group two weeks ago, she wanted to skate in" Plushenko's Angels "under my leadership and the guidance of Sergei Rozanov. Before that, we did not even know each other. If she had such thoughts before, then this nothing was known, "Plushenko said." I can't say what didn’t suit her, and whether it didn’t, it would be better to ask her herself, I can only say that she decided to radically change the team. "

"She did not have any specific wishes - she just wanted to train, prepare for the Olympics, she is absolutely geared towards sports. We did not even discuss the financial component of the issue, but if something is
"This is a sport, and we, of course, will work with Alena on quadruple jumps. She hasn’t skated for a long time - we will restore everything anew, we will put on new programs. We will change the ones that we have set, definitely - these will be our programs, We will stage with Serezha, and if we need choreographers, we will invite the best. And there are thoughts about these programs - Alena and I have been communicating for two weeks already, and proposals on this matter have already been made to her, and she liked them, "Plushenko said.

So Sasha leaves, Rozanov leaves, Zhilina's leave... and now Kostornaia leaves. And here I am wondering if there isn't an abusive vibe going at at Team Tut's camp. Why? Because Aliona has given such heavy praise to Eteri. But often times with abusers, they will pick just one child to abuse. And then when that child is gone, they must move to the next. It was Medvedeva, then Lipnitskaia, then Alina (who if not for her strange relationship with Daniil would likely no longer be training), then Sasha, now Kostornaia. Anna and Kamila might be swimming in very dangerous territory, especially Kamila who seems to be so nervous all the time now. For the Zhilina girls to follow Rozanov is no surprise. For Sasha to leave after a season of disappointment, that would be sensible, and her constant discontentment would be no surprise if Eteri was abusive, emotionally, verbally, however you want to frame it. Aliona wouldn't leave the group if she wanted to be alone and then pick someone like Plushenko, where Sasha is always filmed with others. She'd go to Mishin, or out of the country. I also can't believe that Aliona would not want to share the ice with anyone on Team Tutberidze, when she has said herself that training with everyone in Eteri's camp was a massive motivator-- that she learned just as much from skating alongside her peers as she did from the coaching staff. It seems to me that Sasha left, Eteri then saw Aliona as the golden girl, and likely put INCREDIBLE stress on her. I mean, Tut is obviously great at packaging. Brilliant with results, no doubt. But Aliona leaving is the MASSIVE red flag everyone who has bashed Eteri for ages has been looking for.

Or perhaps, Aliona missed training with Sasha, or was in communication with her and realized she also needed a change. No doubt the pandemic has also given many athletes a great time to reconsider their careers. Rika Kihira's move was also surprising. But idk. This situation just feels... off. Especially because of the way that Eteri is framing Aliona. She says they parted ways in May after Aliona gave her a persona non grata list... but they weren't even back on the ice until the start of June, so how could Aliona have declared she doesn't not want to skate with certain individuals when the camp wasn't even open? I'm even more captivated by the whole scenario given that everything Eteri says is a direct contradiction with what Plushenko says and that Aliona has decided not to comment at all on the matter.

I might also add that the Billie Eilish program idea wasn't my favorite, and that step sequence didn't exactly thrill me, even though I was excited to see how Aliona would put it together + the whole costuming aspect. But they were completed. The programs were done.

This leads me back to abuse. The transfer period is over. Kostornaia is not so inconsiderate as to have programs made up just to take them and run. Plushenko says they weren't even in contact, and then suddenly she decides to contact him, and leave, with two new programs basically completed, and her friends training there? Something HAD to have happened at Novgorosk. Something that would make officials allow her to transfer after the transfer period. What would be so serious that they would bypass such rules?

Can anyone translate what Daniil is saying in the IGTV video he posted on Instagram?

 

[Lunalovesskating]

Wishing Alena all the best with her new team! Is Plush my favorite choice for her? No, far from that actually, but oh well.. but I am glad she is with her favorite coach Rozanov now.
Hope Alena gets some beautiful programs. I actually liked the lovely program she presented with Daniil, so I am a little bit sad we will never see it now. However, I am so interested to see what other choreographers can do with Alena's talent :luv17:

 

[SkateSkates]

I am still a bit in shock, but I will always support Aliona, no matter her coach. I hope she isn’t reading the hate and terrible things being said online and disabling her comments on Instagram was a smart idea.

All I’m gonna say is things aren’t adding up with the 2 side’s stories. Maybe there is a bit of truth to each side, but I don’t think we will ever know for sure what really caused the split. What I will say is it makes no sense for her to agree to switch in May, get programs she’s not gonna use, then lose 2 weeks without ice, and then have to rush and restore her elements again and get new programs 6 weeks out from test skates. Plus, as far as we know, the 3A isn’t back.

 

[elbkup]

My feeling is the coaching change is primarily driven by Rozanov since she seems to have had difficulty regaining her 3A ...
Programs would be of secondary importance but this move is beneficial in that it would provide her with access to different choreographers .. I have enjoyed her programs up to this point but working with different choreographers will undoubtedly stretch her artistic horizons. The change gets a cautious thumbs up from me and I wish her all the best!!

 

[Lunalovesskating]

My feeling is the coaching change is primarily driven by Rozanov since she seems to have had difficulty regaining her 3A ...
Programs would be of secondary importance but this move is beneficial in that it would provide her with access to different choreographers .. I have enjoyed her programs up to this point but working with different choreographers will undoubtedly stretch her artistic horizons. The change gets a cautious thumbs up from me and I wish her all the best!!

I also think her 3A was the motivation.

 

[Rexarcadia]

Wishing Aliona all the best