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- Nov 12, 2021
part 3:
After your return to Tutberidze, many experts wrote that you lost your jumps, lost your shape due to the wrong training process.
-I will repeat once again: I have had many injuries, and the older you get, the more difficult these injuries go. When you are younger, all this is much easier to bear, and as you grow older, it becomes more and more difficult. Especially if you are late with treatment. And this was not a consequence of the loss of shape. Of course, anyone will lose shape if you are in treatment for two months, skating for two weeks, then in treatment again for two months.
That is, it was not such that the training process was wrong, that you had some complaints, or you felt that something did not suit you.
-Not. They helped me as much as they could, to the maximum, 150%, not even 100%. They gave me doctors, they gave me exercise equipment, they provided me with rehabilitation, they did everything for me. They did everything for me, I lived next to the ice rink. I mean, it was in Angels. I was provided with all the necessary conditions. Everything would have been fine if not for my injuries. And it no longer depended on me, these are old injuries, it was not something just acquired.
Why didn't you stay there then?
-Because I thought that it would be unrealistic to prepare for the Olympics in a year there, but Eteri Georgievna, perhaps, will do it. But, as subsequent events showed, the problems here were not in the coaches, but in me. First of all, the problems were with me.
Plushenko, Tutberidze, Buyanova - describe each of them in three words. Let's start with Evgeni Plushenko.
-Charisma! You know, it's like in the movie Jumanji. There, the character from the second part had strengths and weaknesses. And among the strengths there was some kind of charisma. And he does this (imitates the expression on Dwayne Johnson's face) and play such pretentious music: “Tum-tum-tum-tum!”. Lord, on the one hand, this is so funny, but on the other, it is quite real. Energy and charisma - that's something ...
And the third word?
-Probably love for figure skating. Although each of them has it, so it does not fit .... Then will, willpower. Probably so. Eteri Georgievna is grace, rigor and the desire to obtain results by any possible means. Elena Germanovna... Of course, now she does not work with me very much... This is honesty - 100%. So, probably, this is honesty, support and the ability to direct to the desired result. That is, not to force, but to explain to you why you need it. Sometimes athletes say: “Why do I need this?”. She replies, “Don’t you understand? Let me try to explain to you." Well, you think: “But she speaks the truth, it is so.”
Well, that is [it is useful] when sometimes laziness happens, something else, we are all people, and a person is an imperfect being. She knows how to show both one and the other side and direct the athlete to the desired result in such a way that you yourself make a choice.
Have you had any experience with Tatyana Tarasova?
-Of course!
I heard that she is in some way the opposite of Eteri Tutberidze. What do you think?
- Tatyana Anatolyevna treats me strictly, but not without reason. That is, I can not say "it was not." She came to my training when I was just starting to recover from the second fracture of my arm, when Elena Germanovna took me to her group. Almost every week she came to us, and every time I had to show her something new. At first it was triple jumps that were somehow done, after that they were already good triple jumps, the next time it was 3 + 3 combinations, and even later - a whole program with 3 + 3 combinations.
When she asked me why I didn't do the whole program, I (pretends to cry): “This program is only two days old! What does it mean - entirely? Well, she moved me very quickly to the result. That is, she moved both of us - me and Elena Germanovna.
Wow!
-Although we were a bit shocked. But it is not important.
What were you most shocked by?
- Well, basically... Tatyana Anatolyevna is very demanding.
That is, she is still not the opposite of Eteri Georgievna?
-I don't know who ever said that she's the opposite.
When they say that, they mean that she, so to speak, adapts to her athletes, tries to make them comfortable.
-It shows up differently. This, for example, is what they did for me at the Plushenko Academy. That is, I was provided with certain conditions, but on the ice no one will stand on ceremony and lisp with me. You must work, you must do. And it's the same here. That is, she will not follow you on the ice and beg: “Alyonochka, jump, please. And here, stretch out your hand, please.” If you don't want to, don't do it, just get out of here. Nobody is keeping you here. Well, later, when you see yourself in twenty-fifth place in the tournament - do not ask questions. They told you, but you didn't do it, you refused on your own. What is the problem - no problem.
What words did Tatyana Anatolyevna say to you?
- Well, she said that here it is necessary to add, something is missing here - basically this. Sometimes, of course, she also said that it’s good here, the image is conveyed well, but something is still missing.
But did she compliment you sometimes?
-There were moments when she said: “this is not bad. It will be great if improved.” That was the phrase...
Look, it must have been nice for you, right?
-Well, of course, but first you need to improve it to hear that it's great.
(at the hippodrome)
What connects you with the SKA hockey team besides the fact that hockey players also use skates?
- (laughs) Andrey Minakov! To be honest, we talked with friends, I was invited to take a walk. And in those days I was sitting in the country, it was before the operation and I had nothing to do. The guys called me, and I told them: “I can’t, I’m in the country”. And they: “We literally go to the match in a day. Let's go with us". I ask: "Where?" - "To Petersburg". But you need to buy plane tickets, choose a hotel, but they told me: “We will decide everything now, we will do everything.” Well, in the end - yes, we all flew to the match together.
Andrey Minakov is a swimmer?
-Yes.
What connects you with him?
- (laughs) Nothing, we're just friends, both athletes - and that's it.
So he didn't try to romance you?
-Not.
Shouldn't he start courting you?
-Not. I know he has a girlfriend, and so - well...
What is your idea of an ideal man? What should he be?
- Adequate.
Girls usually have stereotypes - he must be tall, smart, kind ... Is this a blonde or a brunette for you?
- Well, of course, he should be taller than me - it's logical. Well, here, as it were (shows with a gesture how small she is) it is logical. And so, probably ... Well, here, damn it, I don’t even know how to say it correctly ... This is when he will carry a bag for me, and a chair will be moved for me, like this ...
Gallantry...
-Yes! That's right.
That is, tall, gallant ...
- And, probably, a man with brains. I'll have to introduce him to my parents somehow. And there will be a big test. My dad still does not know the names of some young men with whom I was familiar. He constantly distorts these names and says: “What is this?! Who else is this? Why are you doing all this?” I tell him: "Dad, I'm 19 years old!". He answered: “This is your personal life, you decide everything on your own, but be smarter.”
Is your heart free now?
- No, figure skating is in my heart! (shows heart with palms)
I realized ... Very often they say that a hockey player and a figure skater are an ideal couple. Can any of the “desperate guys” (the Russian nickname for hockey players) romance to Alena Kostornaya?
- Many people send me messages on Instagram, but, damn it, sometimes they write something like that, that I... Well, sometimes we open all this with my girlfriends, read it, and - ha ha ha!
And what do they write there?
- Well, they ask to meet, something else. I don’t answer, I don’t answer, they ask again, every day they send me messages, and then, at some point, he starts writing: “Here, you are so arrogant!” - and so on. That is, it turns into aggression.
That is, they begin to behave aggressively?
-Yes, and then, at the end of the correspondence, I become guilty of all the possible sins that exist.
Do they send you direct insults?
-Yes, it happens. They call me swear words.
Look, this is really awful and embarrassing. And what - you just do not pay attention to it?
-I do not care. It's just that such a drastic change in attitude towards me seems funny to me. It's funny to read this.
Well, what if it will be, as I already suggested, some nice hockey player? Does he have a chance?
- Everyone has a chance!
Except for those who write all sorts of nonsense in Direct?
-Yes! And except for those who write with spelling errors. In general, messages from Direct are my favorite topic, especially when I discuss something with my girlfriends.
I mean, you have these evenings when you get together, go to Direct, and...
- Yes, we're can spend together all night. And recently, by the way, this often happened. My whole company is going for a day or two, my apartment is empty, why not ...
So it takes two days to read and discuss all messages from Direct? (laughs).
- Well, no, we not only discussed Direct there, we discussed a lot there - all the topics that are possible. Everything that lies still and everything that moves - everything is discussed. Two days with virtually no sleep, without changing positions, we talk.
What about girls?
- Well, from my company. Well, who knows, he will understand.
Are these girls from figure skating?
-Of course. And Carolina Kogan asked me to tell that my beloved and best friend is Carolina Kogan (shows her heart with her hands).
(in a studio)
You and Anna Shcherbakova are good friends. How were you able to maintain such a warm relationship and continue to communicate in such a psychologically difficult sport?
-But because we are both so “eternally sick” (that is, we tend to get sick and get injured). We constantly supported each other, plus we have, in a certain sense, a lot of points of contact.
Name at least a few of these points of contact.
- Well, first of all, this sense of humor - she is just my love in this regard (shows hugs with her hands). Further - a common outlook on life, the same, the same problems ...
How would you describe your common outlook on life, I'm interested?
- Well, that is, there are some life moments about which she could ask me or I could ask her: “What would you do” - “I would do this” - “Damn, I would do the same!”. Or: “And what would you answer in such a situation?” - “And I would answer in the same way” - “and I would also add” - these are the moments ...
But at the same time, you said that Anya was always silent in training and never answered the coaches.
-Yes.
But how does it work if you are so the same in temperament, but at the same time you answered, but she did not?
- She just kept everything in herself, but I didn’t (laughs).
Look, it's really hard to keep everything inside.
- Anya is very well-mannered, sometimes she simply cannot afford to do it. And I, when I realized that in general I can afford it ... After which they shouted to me that I was a master of sports in the discipline "Rudeness" ...
Cool nickname!
-Yes, "Honored Master of Sports in the discipline" Rudeness "". It's just that at some point I realized that it was impossible, in principle, to damage my spoiled, simply nasty reputation even more. And I realized - why not, since it is so with me, then I will be like that. That is, I will go out of the image of a good girl. And Anna is...
At the same time, someone said that you were discouraging the whole group, but you failed to direct Anya Shcherbakova onto a crooked path.
- Well, that's the joke - they told me that I was discouraging the group, but in fact, for example, Sasha - did I spoil it? No. We also talked to her. Did I spoil Kamila? No. Little skaters both skated and continue, well, and Anya. That is, in fact, as we see from the results, I did nothing special. But! (raises hands)
Is there any unusual history in your friendship? Maybe you shared skates, or food, something like that?
-Well, we often ask each other: “What do you have today?” - “What do you have? Let's change!" Well, or when one of us comes to the other without knocking: “Do you have anything to eat?” - “I’ll find it now!”. It happens often, it's normal. I remember once my dog ran around the locker room for a long time, and for Anya her mother brought fish. The dog jumped in her place, opened the package, got to the fish and ate everything. Anya said: “Damn! I didn’t really want to, but!”. And I answer: “Now I will organize something else for you”
And how did Anya react to these transfers of yours when you first left and then returned?
- She said: “Damn, what did you do?! OK...". But we still kept in touch. And then (when Alena left Eteri for the last time) I tell her: “You know what happened.” She told me: "Yes ...". Me: "Well, and...". Her: "I'm shocked." Me: “You know, it happens.” She: “Well, not for the first time…”. And we constantly, until now, we communicate well, we have fun together, we agree on where we will go together on a day off. All in all, no problem...
You are practically the same age as Medvedeva and Zagitova ...
-Not. Zhenya and I have a difference of four years, and with Alina a year.
But they have not performed at a professional level for a long time, they ended their careers a long time ago, they perform in shows..
- They haven't finished! There was no retirement announcement, so no.
Yes, but you keep skating. I mean, you keep training and these girls are still on the show. Zhenya is now skating herself in the Ice Age, Alina is the host in the same show. And you are just training, for some reason you do not participate in the “Ice Age”.
-I don't take part because they didn't take me there (laughs)
Would you like to be there?
-I don't want to skate in this show, but I would be interested in being the host. I told my agents about this, but they replied that at the moment I had no chance. They suggested that I think about participating in other shows.
And if you were still called to the “Ice Age” as a participant, with whom would you prefer to skate together, if you choose from our stars?
- It's actually very dangerous. Because if a boy can skate and a girl can't, that's fine, especially if that boy comes from pair skating. He will lift you up, lower you, twist you - and you don’t have to do anything. That is, the main thing here is just not to interfere with him. But when a girl knows how to skate, but a boy does not know how, and at the same time he must perform lifts, this is frightening. Because he barely keeps on skates, you also don’t really know pair skating - and here everything is generally tough.
Now, if you could choose from professional athletes - there are many options. And if according to the rules of the Ice Age, then ...
Well, name at least a couple of possible partners from among the professionals.
- If these are sports pairs, then I would probably choose Enbert. Because he is a very reliable partner...
And he's already won Ice Age...
- No, it doesn't matter. But here we have problems with age. If I were older, around his age, otherwise... Well, maybe Andrei Deputat. And it is very difficult to choose someone from dances. Because this is Vanya Bukin and, of course, this is Nikita Katsalapov. It's hard to choose between them, even though it's torn apart. But, probably, there are more sympathies for Nikita. And then we again have a discrepancy in age, some of them no longer perform.
Have you ever thought about switching to pair skating?
-Of course.
Are you serious?
-Yes of course. I am short, light weight, I have a normal physique, why not? That is, I will make a good figure skater for pair skating.
So, these words of yours can be considered exclusive?
-Yes.
“Yes” (laughs)
- Well, that is, if suddenly something goes wrong, I will go to pair skating. That is, I still really want to compete in single skating, but if everything goes really bad, then I will go to pairs.
Too bad, how is it?
- Well, really bad.
Are you talking about missing the national team?
- Not getting into the national team is not a problem yet, pfft.
Okay, then what could be your problem?
-Well, if I can't restore those elements that should come easily to me. This, of course, jumps. If my jump itself disappears, then yes - there's nothing you can do about it.
But would you switch to dance pairs or sports pairs?
- In sports pairs.
That is, after all, jumps, difficult lifts ...
-Of course. I like this feeling of flying, it's nice. I have already tried many times, I know what it is, I like it, and therefore I decided that it is possible. But the problem is that I can go there at almost any age. Of course, not in forty years, but still. But then I won’t be able to return, and therefore it is necessary to make the most of everything that I can now take from single skating.
(at the hippodrome)
(I skip the technical conversation before the photo on the horse)
You said that you want to work as a journalist, TV presenter. What about your dream of neurosurgery?
- I can't combine sports and neurosurgery. Also, my priorities have changed a bit now. Now I think more about plastic surgery.
Whoa, wow, why?
-I want a lot of things. Not the fact that it will turn out, that it will be. I want two specialties - neurosurgery and plastic surgery.
And if we talk about plastic surgery, what would you like to do in the first place? Breast? Butt? Liposuction?
-Mmm...
Nose?
- Rather traumatic.
And, plastic surgery, which... You have already studied this question - what should a plastic surgeon do if the patient is after an injury?
- Well, no, I haven't studied this issue so deeply, but...
It still seems to me that plastic surgery is something from the field of beauty.
- No, let's just say, it's not about beauty shots.
Why did you even have such a dream - to become a doctor? Is it because you liked biology and chemistry in school, or is there some other reason?
- I was young, I don’t remember exactly how many. Well, maybe ten, maybe less. And I watched a series that many people talked about - blood, blood, blood around, what a disgusting thing, but for me, on the contrary ...
And what is the series?
- "Grey's Anatomy". And I still like it...
And you watched it at the age of ten?! It's a bit early to watch this at the age of ten!
- Well, my mother watched it, and at first I only listened, and then I started to look out of the corner of my eye. Well, that's how it happened. Then I started watching. There are many series like this...
Probably "Doctor House"
-Yes, "Doctor House" too.
Do you also watch our Russian series about this?
- “Sklifosovsky” and “Clinic”. Also a very interesting series, I really liked it.
Well, it's kind of a comedy series.
-Yes. Plus I liked it, I'm watching it now, New Amsterdam.
Is it also about doctors?
- Yes, all this is in the same vein, also about doctors, about their relationship, about how they try to arrange their personal lives and nothing comes of it. All this is funny, but sometimes you look and think: “This should be remembered.”
It just takes years to study medicine. Approximately seven years.
- Yes, as soon as I finish my sports career, when I officially announce it, I will go to medical university.
Liza Tuktamysheva is 26 years old and still pursuing her career - have you thought about it?
- To be honest, I don’t know about Liza Tuktamysheva, I don’t understand what force moves her. Of course, love for figure skating, plus this is a good income, let's say, if you have not yet been able to realize yourself in other areas.
Well, what about the fact that she still fights for high places and is she in the national team?
- It's amazing, it's commendable, I respect her very much for that.
Well, if you follow this example - if you suddenly finish only at 26 - let's say this is how your life will turn out?
- You know, as a rule, doctors are not allowed into the operating room before they reach the age of 30. More precisely, they are let in there, but, as my friend told me, first the patient lies, then the surgeons, then the intensive care unit, nurses, then the wastebasket, and only then the interns stand. And you can stay in this state of the intern for a very long time. That's why...
Well, that is, you basically thought about it - that you can be very adult and still go to study as a surgeon from the zero level.
-Yes, why not.
After your return to Tutberidze, many experts wrote that you lost your jumps, lost your shape due to the wrong training process.
-I will repeat once again: I have had many injuries, and the older you get, the more difficult these injuries go. When you are younger, all this is much easier to bear, and as you grow older, it becomes more and more difficult. Especially if you are late with treatment. And this was not a consequence of the loss of shape. Of course, anyone will lose shape if you are in treatment for two months, skating for two weeks, then in treatment again for two months.
That is, it was not such that the training process was wrong, that you had some complaints, or you felt that something did not suit you.
-Not. They helped me as much as they could, to the maximum, 150%, not even 100%. They gave me doctors, they gave me exercise equipment, they provided me with rehabilitation, they did everything for me. They did everything for me, I lived next to the ice rink. I mean, it was in Angels. I was provided with all the necessary conditions. Everything would have been fine if not for my injuries. And it no longer depended on me, these are old injuries, it was not something just acquired.
Why didn't you stay there then?
-Because I thought that it would be unrealistic to prepare for the Olympics in a year there, but Eteri Georgievna, perhaps, will do it. But, as subsequent events showed, the problems here were not in the coaches, but in me. First of all, the problems were with me.
Plushenko, Tutberidze, Buyanova - describe each of them in three words. Let's start with Evgeni Plushenko.
-Charisma! You know, it's like in the movie Jumanji. There, the character from the second part had strengths and weaknesses. And among the strengths there was some kind of charisma. And he does this (imitates the expression on Dwayne Johnson's face) and play such pretentious music: “Tum-tum-tum-tum!”. Lord, on the one hand, this is so funny, but on the other, it is quite real. Energy and charisma - that's something ...
And the third word?
-Probably love for figure skating. Although each of them has it, so it does not fit .... Then will, willpower. Probably so. Eteri Georgievna is grace, rigor and the desire to obtain results by any possible means. Elena Germanovna... Of course, now she does not work with me very much... This is honesty - 100%. So, probably, this is honesty, support and the ability to direct to the desired result. That is, not to force, but to explain to you why you need it. Sometimes athletes say: “Why do I need this?”. She replies, “Don’t you understand? Let me try to explain to you." Well, you think: “But she speaks the truth, it is so.”
Well, that is [it is useful] when sometimes laziness happens, something else, we are all people, and a person is an imperfect being. She knows how to show both one and the other side and direct the athlete to the desired result in such a way that you yourself make a choice.
Have you had any experience with Tatyana Tarasova?
-Of course!
I heard that she is in some way the opposite of Eteri Tutberidze. What do you think?
- Tatyana Anatolyevna treats me strictly, but not without reason. That is, I can not say "it was not." She came to my training when I was just starting to recover from the second fracture of my arm, when Elena Germanovna took me to her group. Almost every week she came to us, and every time I had to show her something new. At first it was triple jumps that were somehow done, after that they were already good triple jumps, the next time it was 3 + 3 combinations, and even later - a whole program with 3 + 3 combinations.
When she asked me why I didn't do the whole program, I (pretends to cry): “This program is only two days old! What does it mean - entirely? Well, she moved me very quickly to the result. That is, she moved both of us - me and Elena Germanovna.
Wow!
-Although we were a bit shocked. But it is not important.
What were you most shocked by?
- Well, basically... Tatyana Anatolyevna is very demanding.
That is, she is still not the opposite of Eteri Georgievna?
-I don't know who ever said that she's the opposite.
When they say that, they mean that she, so to speak, adapts to her athletes, tries to make them comfortable.
-It shows up differently. This, for example, is what they did for me at the Plushenko Academy. That is, I was provided with certain conditions, but on the ice no one will stand on ceremony and lisp with me. You must work, you must do. And it's the same here. That is, she will not follow you on the ice and beg: “Alyonochka, jump, please. And here, stretch out your hand, please.” If you don't want to, don't do it, just get out of here. Nobody is keeping you here. Well, later, when you see yourself in twenty-fifth place in the tournament - do not ask questions. They told you, but you didn't do it, you refused on your own. What is the problem - no problem.
What words did Tatyana Anatolyevna say to you?
- Well, she said that here it is necessary to add, something is missing here - basically this. Sometimes, of course, she also said that it’s good here, the image is conveyed well, but something is still missing.
But did she compliment you sometimes?
-There were moments when she said: “this is not bad. It will be great if improved.” That was the phrase...
Look, it must have been nice for you, right?
-Well, of course, but first you need to improve it to hear that it's great.
(at the hippodrome)
What connects you with the SKA hockey team besides the fact that hockey players also use skates?
- (laughs) Andrey Minakov! To be honest, we talked with friends, I was invited to take a walk. And in those days I was sitting in the country, it was before the operation and I had nothing to do. The guys called me, and I told them: “I can’t, I’m in the country”. And they: “We literally go to the match in a day. Let's go with us". I ask: "Where?" - "To Petersburg". But you need to buy plane tickets, choose a hotel, but they told me: “We will decide everything now, we will do everything.” Well, in the end - yes, we all flew to the match together.
Andrey Minakov is a swimmer?
-Yes.
What connects you with him?
- (laughs) Nothing, we're just friends, both athletes - and that's it.
So he didn't try to romance you?
-Not.
Shouldn't he start courting you?
-Not. I know he has a girlfriend, and so - well...
What is your idea of an ideal man? What should he be?
- Adequate.
Girls usually have stereotypes - he must be tall, smart, kind ... Is this a blonde or a brunette for you?
- Well, of course, he should be taller than me - it's logical. Well, here, as it were (shows with a gesture how small she is) it is logical. And so, probably ... Well, here, damn it, I don’t even know how to say it correctly ... This is when he will carry a bag for me, and a chair will be moved for me, like this ...
Gallantry...
-Yes! That's right.
That is, tall, gallant ...
- And, probably, a man with brains. I'll have to introduce him to my parents somehow. And there will be a big test. My dad still does not know the names of some young men with whom I was familiar. He constantly distorts these names and says: “What is this?! Who else is this? Why are you doing all this?” I tell him: "Dad, I'm 19 years old!". He answered: “This is your personal life, you decide everything on your own, but be smarter.”
Is your heart free now?
- No, figure skating is in my heart! (shows heart with palms)
I realized ... Very often they say that a hockey player and a figure skater are an ideal couple. Can any of the “desperate guys” (the Russian nickname for hockey players) romance to Alena Kostornaya?
- Many people send me messages on Instagram, but, damn it, sometimes they write something like that, that I... Well, sometimes we open all this with my girlfriends, read it, and - ha ha ha!
And what do they write there?
- Well, they ask to meet, something else. I don’t answer, I don’t answer, they ask again, every day they send me messages, and then, at some point, he starts writing: “Here, you are so arrogant!” - and so on. That is, it turns into aggression.
That is, they begin to behave aggressively?
-Yes, and then, at the end of the correspondence, I become guilty of all the possible sins that exist.
Do they send you direct insults?
-Yes, it happens. They call me swear words.
Look, this is really awful and embarrassing. And what - you just do not pay attention to it?
-I do not care. It's just that such a drastic change in attitude towards me seems funny to me. It's funny to read this.
Well, what if it will be, as I already suggested, some nice hockey player? Does he have a chance?
- Everyone has a chance!
Except for those who write all sorts of nonsense in Direct?
-Yes! And except for those who write with spelling errors. In general, messages from Direct are my favorite topic, especially when I discuss something with my girlfriends.
I mean, you have these evenings when you get together, go to Direct, and...
- Yes, we're can spend together all night. And recently, by the way, this often happened. My whole company is going for a day or two, my apartment is empty, why not ...
So it takes two days to read and discuss all messages from Direct? (laughs).
- Well, no, we not only discussed Direct there, we discussed a lot there - all the topics that are possible. Everything that lies still and everything that moves - everything is discussed. Two days with virtually no sleep, without changing positions, we talk.
What about girls?
- Well, from my company. Well, who knows, he will understand.
Are these girls from figure skating?
-Of course. And Carolina Kogan asked me to tell that my beloved and best friend is Carolina Kogan (shows her heart with her hands).
(in a studio)
You and Anna Shcherbakova are good friends. How were you able to maintain such a warm relationship and continue to communicate in such a psychologically difficult sport?
-But because we are both so “eternally sick” (that is, we tend to get sick and get injured). We constantly supported each other, plus we have, in a certain sense, a lot of points of contact.
Name at least a few of these points of contact.
- Well, first of all, this sense of humor - she is just my love in this regard (shows hugs with her hands). Further - a common outlook on life, the same, the same problems ...
How would you describe your common outlook on life, I'm interested?
- Well, that is, there are some life moments about which she could ask me or I could ask her: “What would you do” - “I would do this” - “Damn, I would do the same!”. Or: “And what would you answer in such a situation?” - “And I would answer in the same way” - “and I would also add” - these are the moments ...
But at the same time, you said that Anya was always silent in training and never answered the coaches.
-Yes.
But how does it work if you are so the same in temperament, but at the same time you answered, but she did not?
- She just kept everything in herself, but I didn’t (laughs).
Look, it's really hard to keep everything inside.
- Anya is very well-mannered, sometimes she simply cannot afford to do it. And I, when I realized that in general I can afford it ... After which they shouted to me that I was a master of sports in the discipline "Rudeness" ...
Cool nickname!
-Yes, "Honored Master of Sports in the discipline" Rudeness "". It's just that at some point I realized that it was impossible, in principle, to damage my spoiled, simply nasty reputation even more. And I realized - why not, since it is so with me, then I will be like that. That is, I will go out of the image of a good girl. And Anna is...
At the same time, someone said that you were discouraging the whole group, but you failed to direct Anya Shcherbakova onto a crooked path.
- Well, that's the joke - they told me that I was discouraging the group, but in fact, for example, Sasha - did I spoil it? No. We also talked to her. Did I spoil Kamila? No. Little skaters both skated and continue, well, and Anya. That is, in fact, as we see from the results, I did nothing special. But! (raises hands)
Is there any unusual history in your friendship? Maybe you shared skates, or food, something like that?
-Well, we often ask each other: “What do you have today?” - “What do you have? Let's change!" Well, or when one of us comes to the other without knocking: “Do you have anything to eat?” - “I’ll find it now!”. It happens often, it's normal. I remember once my dog ran around the locker room for a long time, and for Anya her mother brought fish. The dog jumped in her place, opened the package, got to the fish and ate everything. Anya said: “Damn! I didn’t really want to, but!”. And I answer: “Now I will organize something else for you”
And how did Anya react to these transfers of yours when you first left and then returned?
- She said: “Damn, what did you do?! OK...". But we still kept in touch. And then (when Alena left Eteri for the last time) I tell her: “You know what happened.” She told me: "Yes ...". Me: "Well, and...". Her: "I'm shocked." Me: “You know, it happens.” She: “Well, not for the first time…”. And we constantly, until now, we communicate well, we have fun together, we agree on where we will go together on a day off. All in all, no problem...
You are practically the same age as Medvedeva and Zagitova ...
-Not. Zhenya and I have a difference of four years, and with Alina a year.
But they have not performed at a professional level for a long time, they ended their careers a long time ago, they perform in shows..
- They haven't finished! There was no retirement announcement, so no.
Yes, but you keep skating. I mean, you keep training and these girls are still on the show. Zhenya is now skating herself in the Ice Age, Alina is the host in the same show. And you are just training, for some reason you do not participate in the “Ice Age”.
-I don't take part because they didn't take me there (laughs)
Would you like to be there?
-I don't want to skate in this show, but I would be interested in being the host. I told my agents about this, but they replied that at the moment I had no chance. They suggested that I think about participating in other shows.
And if you were still called to the “Ice Age” as a participant, with whom would you prefer to skate together, if you choose from our stars?
- It's actually very dangerous. Because if a boy can skate and a girl can't, that's fine, especially if that boy comes from pair skating. He will lift you up, lower you, twist you - and you don’t have to do anything. That is, the main thing here is just not to interfere with him. But when a girl knows how to skate, but a boy does not know how, and at the same time he must perform lifts, this is frightening. Because he barely keeps on skates, you also don’t really know pair skating - and here everything is generally tough.
Now, if you could choose from professional athletes - there are many options. And if according to the rules of the Ice Age, then ...
Well, name at least a couple of possible partners from among the professionals.
- If these are sports pairs, then I would probably choose Enbert. Because he is a very reliable partner...
And he's already won Ice Age...
- No, it doesn't matter. But here we have problems with age. If I were older, around his age, otherwise... Well, maybe Andrei Deputat. And it is very difficult to choose someone from dances. Because this is Vanya Bukin and, of course, this is Nikita Katsalapov. It's hard to choose between them, even though it's torn apart. But, probably, there are more sympathies for Nikita. And then we again have a discrepancy in age, some of them no longer perform.
Have you ever thought about switching to pair skating?
-Of course.
Are you serious?
-Yes of course. I am short, light weight, I have a normal physique, why not? That is, I will make a good figure skater for pair skating.
So, these words of yours can be considered exclusive?
-Yes.
“Yes” (laughs)
- Well, that is, if suddenly something goes wrong, I will go to pair skating. That is, I still really want to compete in single skating, but if everything goes really bad, then I will go to pairs.
Too bad, how is it?
- Well, really bad.
Are you talking about missing the national team?
- Not getting into the national team is not a problem yet, pfft.
Okay, then what could be your problem?
-Well, if I can't restore those elements that should come easily to me. This, of course, jumps. If my jump itself disappears, then yes - there's nothing you can do about it.
But would you switch to dance pairs or sports pairs?
- In sports pairs.
That is, after all, jumps, difficult lifts ...
-Of course. I like this feeling of flying, it's nice. I have already tried many times, I know what it is, I like it, and therefore I decided that it is possible. But the problem is that I can go there at almost any age. Of course, not in forty years, but still. But then I won’t be able to return, and therefore it is necessary to make the most of everything that I can now take from single skating.
(at the hippodrome)
(I skip the technical conversation before the photo on the horse)
You said that you want to work as a journalist, TV presenter. What about your dream of neurosurgery?
- I can't combine sports and neurosurgery. Also, my priorities have changed a bit now. Now I think more about plastic surgery.
Whoa, wow, why?
-I want a lot of things. Not the fact that it will turn out, that it will be. I want two specialties - neurosurgery and plastic surgery.
And if we talk about plastic surgery, what would you like to do in the first place? Breast? Butt? Liposuction?
-Mmm...
Nose?
- Rather traumatic.
And, plastic surgery, which... You have already studied this question - what should a plastic surgeon do if the patient is after an injury?
- Well, no, I haven't studied this issue so deeply, but...
It still seems to me that plastic surgery is something from the field of beauty.
- No, let's just say, it's not about beauty shots.
Why did you even have such a dream - to become a doctor? Is it because you liked biology and chemistry in school, or is there some other reason?
- I was young, I don’t remember exactly how many. Well, maybe ten, maybe less. And I watched a series that many people talked about - blood, blood, blood around, what a disgusting thing, but for me, on the contrary ...
And what is the series?
- "Grey's Anatomy". And I still like it...
And you watched it at the age of ten?! It's a bit early to watch this at the age of ten!
- Well, my mother watched it, and at first I only listened, and then I started to look out of the corner of my eye. Well, that's how it happened. Then I started watching. There are many series like this...
Probably "Doctor House"
-Yes, "Doctor House" too.
Do you also watch our Russian series about this?
- “Sklifosovsky” and “Clinic”. Also a very interesting series, I really liked it.
Well, it's kind of a comedy series.
-Yes. Plus I liked it, I'm watching it now, New Amsterdam.
Is it also about doctors?
- Yes, all this is in the same vein, also about doctors, about their relationship, about how they try to arrange their personal lives and nothing comes of it. All this is funny, but sometimes you look and think: “This should be remembered.”
It just takes years to study medicine. Approximately seven years.
- Yes, as soon as I finish my sports career, when I officially announce it, I will go to medical university.
Liza Tuktamysheva is 26 years old and still pursuing her career - have you thought about it?
- To be honest, I don’t know about Liza Tuktamysheva, I don’t understand what force moves her. Of course, love for figure skating, plus this is a good income, let's say, if you have not yet been able to realize yourself in other areas.
Well, what about the fact that she still fights for high places and is she in the national team?
- It's amazing, it's commendable, I respect her very much for that.
Well, if you follow this example - if you suddenly finish only at 26 - let's say this is how your life will turn out?
- You know, as a rule, doctors are not allowed into the operating room before they reach the age of 30. More precisely, they are let in there, but, as my friend told me, first the patient lies, then the surgeons, then the intensive care unit, nurses, then the wastebasket, and only then the interns stand. And you can stay in this state of the intern for a very long time. That's why...
Well, that is, you basically thought about it - that you can be very adult and still go to study as a surgeon from the zero level.
-Yes, why not.
