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I think Boyang should have won too.
But it's alrigght, there's still next year for Sasha.
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But it's alrigght, there's still next year for Sasha.
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I also wanted Boyang to win over Shoma...at least he gave 100%. Really disappointing competition overall.
But a happy early birthday to our dear Papa Mishin!
But a happy early birthday to our dear Papa Mishin!
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He needed 141 to medal. I don't think he would have gotten that even with just 1 fall. So really he needed to stay on his feet. He hasn't stayed on his feet for both programs since the Warsaw Cup last year. Beyond just nerves, there is some physical issue that needs to be addressed. I don't know what it is.I can't deal with this...Sasha had a 5-point lead from Sota after the SP... He could've afforded one mistake--but not two falls.
A medal was easily within reach, and he instead drops down to 6th place. Quite the disappointing final group, with the exception of Boyang.
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I really hope the Russian Federation does not block his entry to seniors because of this. I don't want him to waste another season on the junior circuit.
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Maybe Sasha and Adian are both going through growing pains. It's easy to see how much they've grown compared to last year. Puberty isn't just for girls...
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Alexander Petrov: Escape buy Mishin tie
07.03.2015 22:54:01 | Figure Skating | Figure skating. World Championship 2015
Today, March 7, to Tallinn (Estonia) junior world championship figure skating competition program completed boys. Russian Alexander Petrov has not managed to jump elements and stated in the final report came down to the sixth position. Their emotions after the rental Alexander Petrov shared with special correspondent portal TEAM RUSSIA-2014 Boris Jodorowsky.
- It is difficult to justify for such rental, - said Alexander Petrov. - At the last tournament I have any program does not work. Probably not strong enough. Counting, of course, quite a different rental and an entirely different result.
- When began to show fatigue, which you complained?
- specific day is difficult to call. Suffered a lot, but it could not affect.
- You have completed the program Junior World Championship ...
- Maybe it is said, only you do not want to make excuses.
- Tomorrow is your coach Alexei Mishin birthday. You could not give him a medal ...
- Who will run immediately to the store to have time to buy a tie.
Maybe he can take one of those undone bowties off someone's costume!
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Alexander Petrov: Escape buy Mishin tie
07.03.2015 22:54:01 | Figure Skating | Figure skating. World Championship 2015
Today, March 7, to Tallinn (Estonia) junior world championship figure skating competition program completed boys. Russian Alexander Petrov has not managed to jump elements and stated in the final report came down to the sixth position. Their emotions after the rental Alexander Petrov shared with special correspondent portal TEAM RUSSIA-2014 Boris Jodorowsky.
- It is difficult to justify for such rental, - said Alexander Petrov. - At the last tournament I have any program does not work. Probably not strong enough. Counting, of course, quite a different rental and an entirely different result.
- When began to show fatigue, which you complained?
- specific day is difficult to call. Suffered a lot, but it could not affect.
- You have completed the program Junior World Championship ...
- Maybe it is said, only you do not want to make excuses.
- Tomorrow is your coach Alexei Mishin birthday. You could not give him a medal ...
- Who will run immediately to the store to have time to buy a tie.
Maybe he can take one of those undone bowties off someone's costume!
No, I think it's a waste of his time. There is nothing more to gain from staying a junior.
I definitely think he should stay in juniors fror another season… you know he's only 15 now so next year in seniors would be crazy
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I think he can benefit a lot from staying another year since he's only 15 and its not like he's consistently winning Jr competitions. He could very easily get lost in Seniors by moving too soon.It is a waste of his time. What can he learn from staying junior? Nothing. He will turn 16 in 6 weeks time. He should be allowed to compete with the seniors.
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I agree. Maybe get some more JGP medals and a J World Medal under his belt next season. While doing Senior B comps. If his body is not ready for the Seniors, then there is no reason to go.
It makes no difference to his senior career whether he wins a Junior World medal or not. More JGP medals will not make him a better skater either. He has been on the junior circuit for 3 years, it is time to move to seniors. As for the argument that he might "get lost" among the seniors, the first year as a senior is always difficult (unless you're Plushenko), no matter whether you turn senior at age 16 or 18. Whether his body is ready or not, the senior GP circuit doesn't begin for another 7-8mths.
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As much as I disagree with the concept, winning more things as a junior will help his reputation and PCS when he turns senior. :/
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I honestly don't think it makes a ton of difference if he goes senior this year or the next. If Shoma and Boyang go senior, then he has more chance to medal in the JGP and maybe his confidence will improve. He can do senior Bs and senior Russian Nats either way.
It might, or it might not. Winning World Juniors did not help Nam's PCS when he turned senior.
True, but honestly Nam--and I like him a lot, don't get me wrong--has many weaknesses that prevent higher PCS: He's very slow, doesn't have great SS, has very weak spins, "looks" junior (it shouldn't matter, but it does), has been given some unfortunate programs, has tiny jumps, ect.
Sasha at his best doesn't have most of those issues. When he's on, he deserves good PCS. Obviously, he was severely off today--not just in terms of falls, but he was also super slow going into his triple axels, which probably contributed to the fall.
I don't know about going senior... his jumps are starting to worry me a little. I remember they used to be nice and airy. Not monster Plushenko jumps, but decent height. Now it looks like he's dealing with growth.
If those issues creep up next year, I think he's better off stabilizing his current content and staying for the JGP. However, if he gets over the growth quickly and emerges in the summer with a steady quad, he could successfully jump into seniors even without huge junior rep value.
I just started to wonder if it is possible that he has grown a lot because he's been sick many times lately. Because hard training might affect growing and if (and when) he has taken breaks and not trained fully that much his body has had the time to grow a lot (I'm really bad in explaining as you can see)
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I'm glad I didn't watch the competition now - I was toying with the idea of doing so, but it would mostly have been whim if I had carried through with it. Actually, I didn't expect him to win a medal - I had a feeling he wouldn't. I didn't expect two falls, though.
As for the senior/junior issue - I'm with adelia on this one. I think he should move up, and I don't think there is much to gain by staying junior. There is also not much hype around him - thank God! - so nobody is expecting him to sweep everything before him, or make a big splash if he moves up... and ergo there won't be any disappointment/backlash if he struggles a little. I think he can't get used to seniors early enough - one major difference? The audience. He coped very well with it at Finlandia - but it would only help to improve his performance...which is already very good, especially for a junior. He can come from underneath and successively work his way up the standings. Without having the world's eye on him, or huge expectations/pressure on his shoulders. Also, he can always go back and do junior Worlds next year, as Adian did.
But, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter much what we think - it's not up to us to make the decision.
And I also think his growth issues/ill health are connected. I think that growing probably makes him weaker, and easier prey for illness. "Puberty is not just for girls" - love that gallavich! And so true, too.
As for the senior/junior issue - I'm with adelia on this one. I think he should move up, and I don't think there is much to gain by staying junior. There is also not much hype around him - thank God! - so nobody is expecting him to sweep everything before him, or make a big splash if he moves up... and ergo there won't be any disappointment/backlash if he struggles a little. I think he can't get used to seniors early enough - one major difference? The audience. He coped very well with it at Finlandia - but it would only help to improve his performance...which is already very good, especially for a junior. He can come from underneath and successively work his way up the standings. Without having the world's eye on him, or huge expectations/pressure on his shoulders. Also, he can always go back and do junior Worlds next year, as Adian did.
But, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter much what we think - it's not up to us to make the decision.
And I also think his growth issues/ill health are connected. I think that growing probably makes him weaker, and easier prey for illness. "Puberty is not just for girls" - love that gallavich! And so true, too.
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