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Alexandra Trusova switching from Tutberidze to Plushenko

This is precisely the reaction I was expecting. He blames someone? He has secret informations, you can't say he isn't true... :palmf: First phase: I want proof he said that (denial). Second phase" He may said that but he wouldn't say that if that wasn't true. So, he can blame anyone and those aren't even allowed to defend or be defended.

Seriously, no reason to reason with plushyfans.

This is your opinion. You didn't convince me how terrible person he is with this. Because this is not enough for anyone who isn't a hater
 
Yegor Rukhin on his transfer to CSKA:

" Recently, a lot of different information about my transition .... Therefore, I'll explain the situation😊

In the new season I will train at CSKA, under the leadership of Yelena Germanovna Buyanova and Marina Leonidovna Selitskaya. I express my gratitude to Team Tutberidze led by Eteri Georgiyevna and Sergey Viktorovich.
Many thanks to my friends, fans, as well as my family for their support and keeping faith in me during such a difficult period for me. I would also like to wish all athletes and coaches, first of all, health, patience in this difficult situation for the whole world. "

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Well said, Yegor :-)
 
Yegor Rukhin on his transfer to CSKA:

" Recently, a lot of different information about my transition .... Therefore, I'll explain the situation��

In the new season I will train at CSKA, under the leadership of Yelena Germanovna Buyanova and Marina Leonidovna Selitskaya. I express my gratitude to Team Tutberidze led by Eteri Georgiyevna and Sergey Viktorovich.
Many thanks to my friends, fans, as well as my family for their support and keeping faith in me during such a difficult period for me. I would also like to wish all athletes and coaches, first of all, health, patience in this difficult situation for the whole world. "

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Well said, Yegor :-)

This is how it should be done.
 
This is your opinion. You didn't convince me how terrible person he is with this. Because this is not enough for anyone who isn't a hater

It wasn't my intention to convince you about anything. It was you who wanted evidence. I gave you precisely what you asked for. Feel free to do as you like with the requested information.
 
This is how it should be done.

It will be. Immediately it was said that first need to officially register the transfer(paperwork) and only then make statements. I don’t know where the information about the switching came from, but it seems both sides(Sasha and Plushy) were not prepared to make statements at that time.
 
What can you expect from people who support someone like Eteri Tutberidze ? ��

You know I respect Eteri. I defended her in Med's case I wanted to be in the middle, and I defended Med when she was hated in this forum's pages. I'm here because of the skating, the skaters who work so hardly not because I want to judge everybody what is not my business and probably I have no every detail to judge it. Maybe sometimes I'm a little bit harsh but my english is not too good and I don't know the shades of the english language. But you can't show a bad words against to any coaches any skaters from me here. That is not my style.
 
The whole place has become a Plushy hate-zone, so far this week he has been accused of:

Being a fake coach
Bribery
Bad-mouthing others for no reason (I guess having your hard-work spat on doesn't count)
Being a media ho
Rubbing everyone's noses in his wealth (Oh no, he posted a video of his garden, what a jerk!)
Stealing students (as if he went in and kidnapped them)
Having a horrible wife
Ruining Sima's and Nastya's careers (forgetting that Sima was just about to quit anyway)

I mean wow, has any other coach received such vitriol with hardly a peep? Suggest Eteri might not have the best coaching techniques and you get your head bitten off. But say whatever you'd like about Plushy. Maybe I'll suggest he goes around poisoning puppies and kittens or causing Corona virus!


Nice.
it will go back to normal at some point. But it bothers myself and others that he is taking great prospects from a great coaching team when they are at their best or close to their best and have achieved a lot. I think when he creates a star on his own things will turn around for Evgeni. But creating a great Junior skater for instance still takes years to accomplish.

Hack confirmed officially. Scherbakova didn't leave Tutberidze.
Whaaaat? Anna Ballerina is like Eteris third daughter if you know what I mean.

I truly don't understand, why you expect that a person, who, completely unprovoked, accused all the other coaches of corruption, should deserve any respect. Some of you blame people of being too uncritical towards Eteri. Maybe. But aren't you too uncritical towards him as well?

Can it turn he will become respectable from the point of what his academy would learn the students? Maybe, in the future.

But that I don't respect him as a person because of what he himself did and said, that doesn't have much in common with the fact that Sasha came to him.
well said flanker.

If plushenko keeps pilfering Eteris Golden Girls then eteru should say screw this and come to America and open and academy here since she's lived here before and her daughter was born here and build a dynasty here and make 10 times more money than she's making in Russia! Now that's a plan B people.

Yegor Rukhin on his transfer to CSKA:

" Recently, a lot of different information about my transition .... Therefore, I'll explain the situation😊

In the new season I will train at CSKA, under the leadership of Yelena Germanovna Buyanova and Marina Leonidovna Selitskaya. I express my gratitude to Team Tutberidze led by Eteri Georgiyevna and Sergey Viktorovich.
Many thanks to my friends, fans, as well as my family for their support and keeping faith in me during such a difficult period for me. I would also like to wish all athletes and coaches, first of all, health, patience in this difficult situation for the whole world. "

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Well said, Yegor :-)

He's going to the butcher ? The believers in here should pray for him. ;) People move to that coach for their careers to die. Buyanova has been a disaster since 2014 Winter Olympics. But I credit the young man with his going away post. It was very professional. Nicely done Yegor
 
Yeah, it seems to me Plyushchenko is neither fear inspiring nor awe inspiring for real as a coach and mentor to a 16 year old.

We’ll see, but I think the best cards were dealt by Mr Trusov so far.

A multiple Olympic medalist, a skater who went to four Olympic Games, a prodigy in his time - isn't awe-inspiring? :scratch2: I don't think so.

Why? Because Plushenko knows everything about the jumps and he can teach them. I have seen many times on master classes and I read interviews, comments of other skaters. He said in interviews he teaches Mishin's method but he has some own ideas, too. We will see.

It's a little bit other aspect but maybe will help Sasha. Sergei Voronov's opinion:

"When you are next to an extraordinary person, and Plushenko is an extraordinary person, it's not just a compliment, you start to feel different. It's another atmosphere, another energy, another attitude. Strong competitors make you stronger."

Exactly. I saw Evgeni in a show a few years back and he had almost the same impact on me as Yuzuru. HUGE presence on ice. Also he was taught by Mr. ALEXEI MISHIN. There is probably nobody who knows more about teaching proper and sustainable technique than Mishin. So dare I say Plushenko knows A LOT about jumping. And since Sasha is a natural jumper, I don't think he's a bad choice for her at all. Together with Rozanov he can clean up her technique and stabilize all of her quads.


Where does the assumption come from that Sasha can't stand having the competition around? As far as I understand it, she was of the opinion that she and her training needs are not addressed individually enough.

There are a lot of ridiculous assumptions being made in this topic and it makes me really angry. When and where did anybody say that Sasha was removed from the team by her father and she had no say in it? Whoever said that Sasha caused problems because she wanted more attention? tutberidze? Why on earth would anybody believe it after what happened with Zhenya Medvedeva, how she trashed her in media like a child?
And even if such concern has been risen by her dad - what is wrong with it? Most elite skaters get individual attention and it is perfectly normal (Yuzu, Nathan, Rika... all have plenty private time with coaches) and Sasha is most certainly a unique girl, maybe one in a few generations. She deserves it and if she wasn't getting it who can blame her for looking elsewhere.

Honestly I also think this decision was very political but also thought through. Plushenko gets a top skater on whom (I presume) he'll focus most of his attention now, so when Sasha gets her first medal next season suddenly Plushy's school get's recognition. And Sasha gets her private coaching time like she supposedly wanted :) I hope it will work out for her, she deserves it.


(...)
The risk is you will be judged on your failure far more harshly than on your successes, because you have little claim to these, she is ready made athlete after all, groundbreaking, record holder, destroyer of stereotypes, etc., all credit for this goes to #TeamTutberidzeForProgress.

(...).

I can already see the same exact scenario that happened with Zhenya:
She succeeds / wins gold - it's because she was a tutberidze girl!!!!1 all credit to eteri!!!
She fails / falls / doesn't medal - Plushenko is ruining her!!!1

Same old same old. Aleksandra should really stay away from social media like Trankov said.


Personally I think time will tell whether it was good or bad. I wish Sasha all the best, she seems like a lovely young lady and very determined to win which I like ;) there's two years to Beijing 2022, better leave now while there's still time to teach Aleksandra actual skating skills and some artistic feel and clean up her technique.



I wish Aliona K. would follow Rozanov as well.
 
As long as artistic skill doesn’t mean she is going to become like every other lady, I am all for it. I want my charge in and flip off the mellow stuff Trusova. Figure skating needs someone awesome like that, not just among the gentlemen, but among the ladies too.
 
A multiple Olympic medalist, a skater who went to four Olympic Games, a prodigy in his time - isn't awe-inspiring? :scratch2: I don't think so.

Here you need to separate Yevgeniy Viktorovich into his various roles: a great skater in his own time, a director/manager over his own Academy, a coach, a personal trainer. Coach and trainer being different roles, with different daily duties and responsibilities. All roles require different appearances in the media.

Private Plyushchenko the husband, father and family man, self-advanced member of the 'beau monde' should be kept completely separate from professional Plyushchenko, though for some people this difference is quite opaque, including himself.
 
As long as artistic skill doesn’t mean she is going to become like every other lady, I am all for it. I want my charge in and flip off the mellow stuff Trusova. Figure skating needs someone awesome like that, not just among the gentlemen, but among the ladies too.
That is how I see it too.
 
I truly don't understand, why you expect that a person, who, completely unprovoked, accused all the other coaches of corruption, should deserve any respect. Some of you blame people of being too uncritical towards Eteri. Maybe. But aren't you too uncritical towards him as well?

Can it turn he will become respectable from the point of what his academy would learn the students? Maybe, in the future.

But that I don't respect him as a person because of what he himself did and said, that doesn't have much in common with the fact that Sasha came to him.
Where is Yagudin in all this? He must have some interesting opinions on the pilfering of EG's pupils by his did arrival of 20-plus years. What Plushenko is doing is basically akin to someone running a marathon and then a half mile before the finish line someone else takes over and finishes the race race. I mean who can't coach Sasha at this stage or Veronika one of the best novices ever?

As for young Sergei he has put a lot of pressure on himself. Now coaches move up all the time like they're supposed to and it's very well could be the correct career move for him. But if it fails...
 
If Anna would truly want to leave, she would be the first to announce it publicly and do everything in a correct way (incl. the flowers, if you want).

Yes, you have mentioned many times how perfect you think Anna is, I’m sure she would do everything the correct way. :sarcasm: At least what the correct way is according to you.

What exactly Sasha did not do correctly in your eyes?
 
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