Anybody want to bet that these will be exact medals at next Olympics?
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slutskayafan21 said:Mathman already offered to keep the money himself in tow until 2010, didnt he?
Anywhere what is the worst thing that would happen, if the person is bluffing nobody pays and you move on, if the person isnt bluffing you make the money if you are so sure you will win the bet(which of course nobody is since my predictions were so excellent obviously).
Given that some of your predictions are "either/or" that's hardly putting your neck on the line, or in fact making any viable prediction since you have two skaters down for the one medal...saying "China will win gold in the pairs" is hardly an earth shattering prediciton now is it!!!
And thinking that North America will sweep in dance
We both seem to agree that the judges are crooked so even if a North American sweep of the Dance podium in 2010 was possible (and i don't think it is) you can bet that $1,000 that the judges will start pushing up a russian couple that aren't really improving as much as the judges are overrewarding them.Ant
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antmanb said:Given that some of your predictions are "either/or" that's hardly putting your neck on the line, or in fact making any viable prediction since you have two skaters down for the one medal...saying "China will win gold in the pairs" is hardly an earth shattering prediciton now is it!!!
And thinking that North America will sweep in dance
Ant
Well I only used one "or/either" and it was because I could not decide whether to go with my heart or head on the two Chinese pairs. My head says the Zhangs, but I like Pang/Tong so much more and would hate to be forced into cheering for the Zhangs to win the bet so......I figured since it was only one nobody would mind, since I put my neck out on the other 10.
As for the dance, as well as the pairs, my feeling is Russia is so weakened they will recognize they have to start the program from scratch to build up viable contenders, and not embarass the sport to a new low by making blatant deals for their own non-medal winning caliber teams they are left with like Domnina/Shabalin. Atleast that is what I hope, the thought of Domnina/Shabalin or Obertas/Slavnov on an Olympic podium is uggghh barring some major renovations by both teams.
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I think Mao Asada will grow quite a bit during the next few years and gain a lot of weight as she matures. I think she'll lose the 3A and much of her jumping ability somewhere along the way. I don't think she will be Japan's top skater in two years, never mind four years. I mean, look at her, she's all arms and legs and I doubt she weighs 90 pounds at this point. Next year is Mao's best chance for a World gold, but I think her career will go downhill after that.
Japan may have 4 or 5 of the Worlds top ten Ladies during the next few years, but I don't think it''ll bring them very many medals at Worlds.
The 2010 OLYM will be closly fought between Kimmie Meisner, Nu-Ya Kim, and Katy Taylor who are already more filled out in comparison to Mao, and will be less affected by growth.
Japan may have 4 or 5 of the Worlds top ten Ladies during the next few years, but I don't think it''ll bring them very many medals at Worlds.
The 2010 OLYM will be closly fought between Kimmie Meisner, Nu-Ya Kim, and Katy Taylor who are already more filled out in comparison to Mao, and will be less affected by growth.
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curious. You have to admit your Russian skaters are finished and nothing new but an uphill battle for Vancouver. No more Soviet treats. It's over.
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She's from Georgia -- Elena Gedevanishvili.
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Elene was my favorite at the Olympics, after Sasha. Johnny Weir has also predicted she will win in 2010! But after seeing Yu Na Kim, I'm not so sure. That girl is unbelievable. But if Elene does beat Yu Na, that will be one magnificent skate!
However this is not really a prediction for 2010, just the next year or two - and not even the podium, just the ranking (who beats who). Can't even imagine who the next four years will bring. I am counting on Sasha to slay her demons and stay in the mix.
However this is not really a prediction for 2010, just the next year or two - and not even the podium, just the ranking (who beats who). Can't even imagine who the next four years will bring. I am counting on Sasha to slay her demons and stay in the mix.
Joesitz said:curious. You have to admit your Russian skaters are finished and nothing new but an uphill battle for Vancouver. No more Soviet treats. It's over.
Joe
Can't hide your hate for the top russian skaters can you? lol! At least they finished on top which is more than I can say for your faves. Can you predict where your faves are going to be in the next four years? lol!
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Can't stand thecurious said:Can't hide your hate for the top russian skaters can you? lol! At least they finished on top which is more than I can say for your faves. Can you predict where your faves are going to be in the next four years? lol!
(btw, hate is your word. Not mine, and what do you show when only those skaters from one country are your favorites? . Stephane won the Worlds!!
Shizuka won the Olympics!
Joe
Joesitz said:Can't stand the
Stephane won the Worlds!!
Shizuka won the Olympics!
Joe
I'm not going to engage in an all out war with you to justify who I like or don't like cause that's my right. My faves are the best who happen to be russians,but that does not mean that I don't like other skaters. Satisfy now lol!biggrin:
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curious said:Yes,the Zhangs will get another major gift from the judges in Vancouver unless they make more mistakes(Like falling three times lol!)than they usually do
For once I agree with you. The Zhangs are the judges pets and will probably continue to be so. :disapp:
To be perfectly fair to Zhang & Zhang, who, yes, were more than a bit overmarked given the circumstances -- I think the fault for the whole thing lies in the current system. This system starts you from 0 when you start and you build up points as you go along, there does not seem to be any allowances made for long meandering interruptions to get back into the flow of things, as there was under the old system. If this had happened under 6.0, their base mark would have been lower due to the interruption and consequently their scores would have been. COP does not seem to allow for this. All they got, which is ridicolous, was the 1 point deduction for the fall, which is the same thing you get if you fall and get right back up. Silly. I would propose a 5-7 point deduction for a situation like this, depending on the length of it. Since that rule is not in place, I do not entirely blame the judges for the overmarking; they probably were unsure themselves as to what to do about it in the scoring.
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