because i feel like it
I see...well then, as I said, the sky may be blue but some still argue it is yellow
because i feel like it
just like we won't pretend that Hanyu won his olympic medals with 2 great skates (in each program) ... also, why do you give Hanyu as the top skater of the years when Javi beat him at words after winning europeans.... ????
So for me if we have to compare titles, only GPF and worlds count. Because every skater can take part to both.
As they can the Olympics, of course. (oh, and we don't have to 'pretend' that Yuzu won with two great skates in each... he, like pretty much every other man in Sochi, had real problems with that free. But he has skated five times there and four of those were by any unbiased assessment superb - the Olympic Channel would seem to agree, and put out a special video of Yuzu's competitions and his two glorious exhibitions, the first good copy of that White Legend skate I've managed to come across)
Actually, Yuzu and Javi sharing the honours and the ice in 2015-18 is one of the great things about that quad, of course. Rivalries make any sport more exciting, but a rivalry as brilliant and uniquely 'feelgood' as theirs is rare and won't be forgotten for a long time.
Well, many prefer to forget the great performances that he did at olympics. If find it weird to always point that he wasn't clinical in both program. It's not like any other top contender was and should have got the got the gold instead of him. I think he did more than to prove these last seasons that these wins were not accidental.
I would like every medalist to stand on podium like Hanyu and Fernandez at Finlandia trophy in 2012.
'Clinical' is one word I don't think anyone anywhere has seriously used for Yuzuru Hanyu
I would say that Hanyu and Fernandez are tied for 2015 and 2016, even if we can give the edge to Fernandez if we think that worlds weight more. For example, Hanyu was just fantastic in GP series in 2016 (and worlds SP). I wouldn't say that Fernandez was dominant that season. But he won worlds thanks to a superb FS. So he can maybe get the top skater of the year because of that. I would say that Fernandez was the top skater in 2015 even if Hanyu won GPF (because aside GPF it wasn't just a good season for Hanyu), and Hanyu was the top skater in 2016 even if Fernandez won worlds (because Hanyu was in a different galaxy before worlds FS).
Europeans doesn't count imo. Because:
- Not every skater can compete there,
- It's easier for european skater to take part to that competition than 4CC skaters to compete at 4CC.
- These last years the field at euros was way more weaker than the 4CC field, and usually the scoring is more generous. Fernandez would have had an harder time to win if he had to compete with 2016, 2017, 2018 4CC field.
So for me if we have to compare titles, only GPF and worlds count. Because every skater can take part to both.
- It's easier for european skater to take part to that competition than 4CC skaters to compete at 4CC.
Not true. You have to earn spots at Europeans whereas at 4CC every country can have three spots if the want.
'Clinical' is one word I don't think anyone anywhere has seriously used for Yuzuru Hanyu
The downside to think in french but to write in english.
Michelle????
I see Americans have a really tough time dealing with the fact that not everyone considers Michelle the best...
It’s hard to hold back when someone says something so objectively wrong as naming Tara Lipinski (also American, BTW) as being most dominant in 1995-98. I checked with my friend, Wikipedia, and learned the following: In that time period, Michelle competed internationally 15 times. She won gold at 10 events, silver at 4 and was 4th at one. Tara competed at 11 events. She won 4 golds, 4 silvers, 1 bronze and finished 4th and 15th at 2 other events. Michelle clearly was dominant during that quad.I see Americans have a really tough time dealing with the fact that not everyone considers Michelle the best...
Who was the best skater of each quadrennial from 1977 to today.
Pairs:
2015-2018: Savchenko & Massot
Not exactly relevant to the question of this thread, but here is an interesting trivia question.
Who are the only two ladies to win world figure skating championships in three different quads?
Answer: Sonja Henie and Michelle Kwan. (If you count the worlds after the Olympics as being the start of a new quad instead of the end of the old one, then also Mao Asada joins the list with gold in 2009, 2010, and 2014.) :yes: