Emily Hughes - What Do You Think?

[Joesitz (RIP)]

I really think Emily should do at a least a rocker before setting up carefully to do her 3Flip or 3Lutz. It's just so out of character for the music Sylvia.

Joe

 

[Kwanford Wife]

Emily is a bad girl. i want her to disappear in skating world ASAP.

Stop it... Play nice.

 

[Kwanford Wife]

You're kidding about Mao, right? With her exquisite line and grace, not to mention her one-handed Bielmann, she will always go through the roof on PCS. (Lemme guess - grace and line are not your favorite qualities. At least we both like Miki.)

No... I'm not kidding. I do appreciate grace & line but I don't really see what's the big deal is in terms of Mao... She hasn't really grown on me. This is the problem with hype - my expectations were so high for this newbie, that when the skating, meaning not just the jumps, didn't blow me away - I lost interest. But I could be wrong... She might be the best thing since sliced wonder bread and I'm just behind the curve... whatever.

But don't get me wrong, I do expect her to land on the podium - if she doesn't win the whole thing... and good for her. I'm just not a fan...:indiff:

But yes, SS, we both do love Miki! :yes:

 

[nubka]

Still, there have been many outstanding U.S. skaters who never won a world championship. Maribel Vincent and Janet Lynn won 14 U.S. championships between them, but never a world gold. So -- yawns aside -- I think Kimmie has every right to be proud of her achievement.

Yes, she can be proud, but what skater wouldn't want the satisfaction of knowing that they beat the very cream of the crop to get that title. Kind of like when Sasha won Nats without Kwan being there...

 

[nubka]

The reason why Emily is "telegraphing" her jumps is that most of the transitional choreography has been removed from her FS, since she wasn't able to land her jumps in that context during the GP. So what's left is stroke, stroke, jump, so it's very plain whenever she is setting up for the next jump.

Ah yes, the old Michelle Kwan game plan. But look how WELL it worked for her!

 

[Kwanford Wife]

Ah yes, the old Michelle Kwan game plan. But look how WELL it worked for her!

Oh no you didn't go there!! I shall take the higher road and channel my inner peace and only add the Michelle Kwan is the greatest of all time...

wow... I feel so mature...

 

[Tonichelle]

Ah yes, the old Michelle Kwan game plan. But look how WELL it worked for her!

someone's playing with fire :agree:

 

[nubka]

Oh no you didn't go there!! I shall take the higher road and channel my inner peace and only add the Michelle Kwan is the greatest of all time...

wow... I feel so mature...

I'm not trying open a can of worms, it's just that when it was mentioned previously that Emiliy's LP was full of crossovers and no transitions, Michelle was honestly the first thing that popped into my head.

It did work well for Kwan. Whatever her reasons were for skating programs loaded with crossovers and little to no transitions (maybe because of her hip problems,) she still did very, very, well.

It will remain to be seem if this strategy works for Emily as well...

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

True, but then MK was carrying non-publicized pain in the hip so her purpose was to keep the legend alive pain or not.

 

[Penny]

How very nice to hear from people who like Emily and respect her skating. You all need to chime in when the Emily-bashing starts on other threads, or maybe it's best just to ignore it.

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

There's a difference between corrective criticism and bashing.

 

[chuckm]

There are major differences between Kwan and Hughes, not the least of which is that Kwan landed her jumps lightly and didn't ta-da when she did. She was a much more consistent skater than Emily. And she was WAY faster than Emily.

 

[Jimmy Hoffa]

Ah yes, the old Michelle Kwan game plan. But look how WELL it worked for her!

Kwan was only doing what her critics wanted. Those of us who were around in the late 90's and early 00's heard on a daily basis about how Kwan needed to stop with the "same old same old Nichol choreography", even when she was skating to a different choreographer. So she did. Lipiniski won from going from jump to jump. Slutskaya was winning by going from jump to jump. So that's what Kwan did. After she left Nichol, her critics criticized her some more for leaving, pretending they never criticized her choreography. But they did, no matter how much they lie about it.

Also, Kwan did her "no choreography" with lots and lots of style. IMO, E Hughes doesn't have that...yet?

 

[SeaniBu]

Also, Kwan did her "no choreography" with lots and lots of style. IMO, E Hughes doesn't have that...yet?

:agree: ITA, nicely said.:thumbsup:

 

[Tonichelle]

...or maybe it's best just to ignore it.

that's what I try to do, it's easier to get the stuff to stop if you don't feed into it. It's that whole idea that negative attention is better than no attention at all...

 

[sk8addict]

You're kidding about Mao, right? With her exquisite line and grace, not to mention her one-handed Bielmann, she will always go through the roof on PCS. (Lemme guess - grace and line are not your favorite qualities. At least we both like Miki.)

I'm sorry but I consider a one handed Bielman a cheated move. She cannot do a real Bielman so she flutters her free hand to distract from the improper position?

 

[Spun Silver]

What's wrong with it?
http://yasutaku.blogzine.jp/take_off/images/mao_asada_thumb.jpg

 

[nubka]

There are major differences between Kwan and Hughes, not the least of which is that Kwan landed her jumps lightly and didn't ta-da when she did. She was a much more consistent skater than Emily. And she was WAY faster than Emily.

This isn't about their differences, or who has lighter jumps. Just talking about Emily's LP full of crossovers and no transitions, and that Kwan did the same for years...

 

[nubka]

Kwan was only doing what her critics wanted. Those of us who were around in the late 90's and early 00's heard on a daily basis about how Kwan needed to stop with the "same old same old Nichol choreography", even when she was skating to a different choreographer. So she did. Lipiniski won from going from jump to jump. Slutskaya was winning by going from jump to jump. So that's what Kwan did. After she left Nichol, her critics criticized her some more for leaving, pretending they never criticized her choreography. But they did, no matter how much they lie about it.

Also, Kwan did her "no choreography" with lots and lots of style. IMO, E Hughes doesn't have that...yet?

I loved Michelle's programs with Nichol back when she actually had choreography and transitions. I wish they had stayed together. Why would critics, or anyone, want her to skate empty programs? No matter how "big" the music is, or how graceful or filled with "passion/heart", an empty program is an empty program.

I doubt that Emily will ever have Michelle's style, no matter how hard she works.

 

[R.D.]

that's what I try to do, it's easier to get the stuff to stop if you don't feed into it. It's that whole idea that negative attention is better than no attention at all...

I don't agree. I like the whole issue of confrontation- it gets things out in the open. Granted, it only works with sane folks. :yes: