Help Needed pronouncing Skaters Names

sabinfire

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There are a lot of links in here to videos (which is fine) -- if we're still looking to edit some of these down to shorter clips, can you give me a list of some of the higher priority and/or higher demand ones? It might be a little while before I can sit down and do them all, so completing them in smaller batches is more manageable.
 

dorispulaski

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I will put a list together later today and post it here.

After you take a look at the videos in the list, please say which are so unusable that we need to hunt for others.
 
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... So, the discrepency between the transliteration of Miss Leonova and Miss Savchenko's names is all because somebody left out the umlaut on Miss Leonova's name when writing it in Cyrillic. And the person at the ISU transliterating it into Latin characters was none the wiser that it should have been there. ...

I believe that most or all of the biographical data in the ISU bios seems to come from the skaters themselves.
I don't mean the stats regarding their competitive results -- I mean the other details in the bios.
(The playfulness of Piper/Paul in what they have written for their new ISU bios is the subject of some social media chatter at the moment.)

And wouldn't surprise me if the skaters (or their reps) must furnish the biographical data in English to the ISU.
So even if an ISU person -- such as Tatjana Flade, for example -- had full knowledge of what petitbrie explained, I could imagine that the ISU person might deliberately steer clear of meddling with the transliteration provided by Team Leonova.

Leonova's English-language website seems to be dead, but IIRC, it transliterated her name as Alena.

It's the same type of conundrum as to whether Julia or Yulia is more "correct."
IMO, what is "correct" is whatever Julia/Yulia has spelled out for the ISU.

BTW, the Russian federation does not always include the diacritical mark in Leonova's name.
(But don't get me wrong. I agree completely that Алёна would help ensure the correct pronunciation of Leonova's name.)


.... ‘Chtch’ is how it is transliterated into French...

Ohhhh. Thx, petitebrie.
B/c of this thread I have learned new things about how the French transliterate Russian :cool:, and (thanks again to borzaya) how Russians transliterate Japanese :cool:.
 

dorispulaski

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Here's the status of names that have been found.

Files needing editing:

Ekaterina Bobrova and Dmitry Soloviev are pronouncing their names here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TszXJku3NYE
They say 'Здравствуйте' (Hello) and then Dmitry pronounces Katia's name and Katia's pronouncing Dmitry's name

Elladj Baldé. ...I wondered how he would say it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZd5kW3kiDU

Dylan Moscovitch says his name on the same video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZd5kW3kiDU

Megan Duhamel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_POurIDVens

Natasha Purich and Mervyn Tran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkFtnZMEIpQ

Eric Radford
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh2z8qtS7_A

Mirai Nagasu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnGmguz-R9w

Aleksei Krasnozhon saying his name:
https://instagram.com/p/8We6ICJcdk/ (Oct 2)

Kaetlyn Osmond says her name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GquEQCIXAUg

Kaitlyn Weaver and Andrew Poje say their names
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzggE_KUA_w

Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir say their names
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXKn9eyMR_Q

Alexandra Paul and Michell Islam say their names
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNcFBpmxH3U

Kirsten Moore-Towers and Dylan Moscovitch say their names
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbdajOWHi3c

Patrick Chan says his name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqYgJ1Efiwg

SFSA's Get to Know Series...Names
Nathan Chen says his name. Champs Camp 2015
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j26LzgqiyE

Jordan Moeller says his name (Muller) Champs Camp 2015
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHZP1cFCNeU

Madison Hubbell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPUBvnbTNcg

Zachary Donohue says his name. Champs Camp 2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcnMwW3T12s

Evan Bates says his name. Champs Camp 2014
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=720UT1HwSVM

Madison Chock says her name. Champs Camp 2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t13MODubE4U

@StitchMonkey and @papagena found Jason Brown saying his name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bxCFDkhl9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m41l6HqolIg

Mirai Nagasu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnGmguz-R9w

Ashley Wagner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYKU6-HxJlc

Gracie Gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGmsZc2GggE

Maia Shibutani says her name. Champs Camp 2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3S6frbsvc0

Alex Shibutani
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV3L1XpzLiU

Max Aaron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owi67MC9kJc

Andrei Rogozine says his name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWAosoyw6dc

Tomas Verner says his name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO5hjfWb5UY

Jeremy Abbott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTsLfKfu6SY

Douglas Razzano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl6aBaS3sxM

Ashley Cain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Wk2njdluQ

Angela Wang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGC9HyuTp4o

Max Settlage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpZwYlLK58I

Angela Wang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGC9HyuTp4o

Tim Dolensky says his name. Champs Camp 2015
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6yJbAvCzgY

Paige Lawrence and Rudi Swiegers say their names
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyXFzBScCQM

A clearer version of Véronik Mallet saying her name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYAz53gr6Jc

Gabby Daleman says her name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mtjf22SOmJE

Samantha Cesario
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwaX3Cn4r98

Stephen Carriere (who pronounces his name Steven Carrier)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebCZHhwzwxA

Amber Glenn-Champs Camp 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDr1O3iflak

Courtney Hicks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8mkjHtRzZU

Brandon Frazier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-UhBJDUH5Q

Madeline Aaron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3MhelCyUk0

Ross Miner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJjcQC5yIks

Simon Shnapir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xov2tBokCCQ



DONE AND INSTALLED

Julia Lipnitskaia
https://youtu.be/5_3xFYQpYiE

Nam Nguyen says his name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYsk8czgsVo

Gilles & Poirier
https://youtu.be/79-KWfs2YhA

Osmond:
https://youtu.be/9ZZ3AU4Ycqo
.
Alexa Scimeca & Chris Knierim
https://youtu.be/UlVJR29CvO4

Yuzuru Hanyu
https://youtu.be/wAJiRJvGRlo

Javier Fernández
https://youtu.be/QUWqD6_ithg

Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
https://youtu.be/drAVpXjHTH8

https://youtu.be/E9eK623S0os


Véronik Mallet
https://youtu.be/GNlhD6nY4eM

Kaitlin Hawayek
https://youtu.be/59_ywWbRZYs

Jean-Luc Baker
https://youtu.be/dfRIaAMwtWk

Polina Edmunds
https://youtu.be/e7T3dBdTrdg

Satoko Miyahara
: https://youtu.be/Cha2yWNBcFM

Elizabet Tursynbaeva:
https://youtu.be/g5IobLMnBjE

Elena Radionova:
https://youtu.be/FlotRYHRu9c

Adam Rippon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcASyOgeLcM
 

sabinfire

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Edited now:

Ekaterina Bobrova and Dmitri Soloviev
https://youtu.be/A7AWbbTtGBg

Dylan Moscovitch
https://youtu.be/lzyXvg556ig

Elladj Baldé
https://youtu.be/RJQOlDsGC6E

Meagan Duhamel & Eric Radford
https://youtu.be/HhTcTJwWpWU

Natasha Purich & Mervin Tran
https://youtu.be/wgP-8W8YQxE

Mirai Nagasu (listed twice in 'needs editing')
https://youtu.be/-U_fv15Is70

Aleksei Krasnozhon
https://youtu.be/LtYOnz936Lo

Kaetlyn Osmond (currently listed in both 'needs editing' and 'done')
https://youtu.be/9ZZ3AU4Ycqo

I allow some edits to run an extra second or two to avoid abrupt cutoffs mid-sentence.
 

dorispulaski

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Okay, I have all those installed. :bow: thank you

I hope someone finds more files of Russian and Japanese skaters pronouncing their names!
 
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This is as much a reminder for me to go find it as it is a suggestion/request, but I think Joshi Helgesson would be a good addition.

Pretty sure I have seen her first name pronounced "Josh-eee" as in Josh Farris with a Minni-me noise at the end and like the cute dinosaur from the the Mario franchise.... I'd like to know what is correct.
 

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Doris, can I implore you to find a way to send these links to the Brit Eurosport commentators, bless 'em! ;) :laugh:

Thanks for all the links and the work at cutting them, sabinfire, Doris et al! :love:
 

dorispulaski

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I truly would like to hear how Anna Pogorilaya, Elena Ilinykh, Evgenia Medvedeva, and Polina Tsurkaya say their names.

And Misha Ge.
 

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... I hope someone finds more files of Russian and Japanese skaters pronouncing their names!

Kanako Murakami saying her name (Murakami Kanako) in 2014:
https://youtu.be/XWyxGBKyVx8

Hard for my ears to catch completely, but Takahito Mura saying his name (Mura Takahito) in 2014:
https://youtu.be/9daOOWNzx98

Hard for my ears to catch completely, but Narumi Takahashi (Takahashi Narumi) and Ryuichi Kihara (Kihara Ryuichi) saying their names in 2014:
https://youtu.be/Aw3aZebXhdo

Cathy Reed and Chris Reed saying their names "in Japanese" in 2014:
https://youtu.be/De_-WE_P3Bo


If of any interest:

I know we already have a good version of Satoko; here she is saying Miyahara Satoko in 2014:
https://youtu.be/EvVMznIMROM

I know we already have a good version of Yuzuru; here he is saying Hanyu Yuzuru in 2015:
https://youtu.be/9F1MTOiAVqk?t=1m10s (starting at approx. 1:10)


Thanks again to sabinfire and Doris.


p.s. Lest anyone wonder, I am well aware that it is customary in Japan to say one's family name first. Not saying that anything is weird about that. Just making note that the names (understandably) are heard in non-Western order in most of the videos in this post.
 
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