Help Needed pronouncing Skaters Names

Snow63 · Oct 8, 2015

Nevermind

sabinfire · Oct 8, 2015

There are a lot of links in here to videos (which is fine) -- if we're still looking to edit some of these down to shorter clips, can you give me a list of some of the higher priority and/or higher demand ones? It might be a little while before I can sit down and do them all, so completing them in smaller batches is more manageable.

dorispulaski · Oct 8, 2015

I will put a list together later today and post it here.

After you take a look at the videos in the list, please say which are so unusable that we need to hunt for others.

ice coverage · Oct 8, 2015

CaroLiza_fan said:
... So, the discrepency between the transliteration of Miss Leonova and Miss Savchenko's names is all because somebody left out the umlaut on Miss Leonova's name when writing it in Cyrillic. And the person at the ISU transliterating it into Latin characters was none the wiser that it should have been there. ...

I believe that most or all of the biographical data in the ISU bios seems to come from the skaters themselves.
I don't mean the stats regarding their competitive results -- I mean the other details in the bios.
(The playfulness of Piper/Paul in what they have written for their new ISU bios is the subject of some social media chatter at the moment.)

And wouldn't surprise me if the skaters (or their reps) must furnish the biographical data in English to the ISU.
So even if an ISU person -- such as Tatjana Flade, for example -- had full knowledge of what petitbrie explained, I could imagine that the ISU person might deliberately steer clear of meddling with the transliteration provided by Team Leonova.

Leonova's English-language website seems to be dead, but IIRC, it transliterated her name as Alena.

It's the same type of conundrum as to whether Julia or Yulia is more "correct."
IMO, what is "correct" is whatever Julia/Yulia has spelled out for the ISU.

BTW, the Russian federation does not always include the diacritical mark in Leonova's name.

http://fsrussia.ru/intervyu/1246-al...m-starte-znachilo-dlya-menya-ochen-mnogo.html (Sep 26)

(But don't get me wrong. I agree completely that Алёна would help ensure the correct pronunciation of Leonova's name.)

petitebrie said:
.... ‘Chtch’ is how it is transliterated into French...

Ohhhh. Thx, petitebrie.
B/c of this thread I have learned new things about how the French transliterate Russian

, and (thanks again to borzaya) how Russians transliterate Japanese

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dorispulaski · Oct 8, 2015

sabinfire · Oct 8, 2015

Edited now:

Ekaterina Bobrova and Dmitri Soloviev
https://youtu.be/A7AWbbTtGBg

Dylan Moscovitch
https://youtu.be/lzyXvg556ig

Elladj Baldé
https://youtu.be/RJQOlDsGC6E

Meagan Duhamel & Eric Radford
https://youtu.be/HhTcTJwWpWU

Natasha Purich & Mervin Tran
https://youtu.be/wgP-8W8YQxE

Mirai Nagasu (listed twice in 'needs editing')
https://youtu.be/-U_fv15Is70

Aleksei Krasnozhon
https://youtu.be/LtYOnz936Lo

Kaetlyn Osmond (currently listed in both 'needs editing' and 'done')
https://youtu.be/9ZZ3AU4Ycqo

I allow some edits to run an extra second or two to avoid abrupt cutoffs mid-sentence.

sabinfire · Oct 8, 2015

I'm putting all these in their own section:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLd4PT9WvCNpzbiJMZpAK1u_2PkQVTb7Lr

Or use the Play All option to auto-play through them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlotRYHRu9c&list=PLd4PT9WvCNpzbiJMZpAK1u_2PkQVTb7Lr

dorispulaski · Oct 9, 2015

Okay, I have all those installed. :bow:

thank you

I hope someone finds more files of Russian and Japanese skaters pronouncing their names!

StitchMonkey · Oct 10, 2015

This is as much a reminder for me to go find it as it is a suggestion/request, but I think Joshi Helgesson would be a good addition.

Pretty sure I have seen her first name pronounced "Josh-eee" as in Josh Farris with a Minni-me noise at the end and like the cute dinosaur from the the Mario franchise.... I'd like to know what is correct.

Sugarpova · Oct 10, 2015

Mirai is soo cute :love:

dorispulaski · Oct 10, 2015

I would also like to know how Chafik Besseghier pronounces his name

dorispulaski · Oct 10, 2015

And thank you to cathlen who found this video of Chafik pronouncing his name...NOT quite how I expected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4O7PnQ8aHg

TheGrandSophy · Oct 10, 2015

Doris, can I implore you to find a way to send these links to the Brit Eurosport commentators, bless 'em!

Thanks for all the links and the work at cutting them, sabinfire, Doris et al! :love:

dorispulaski · Oct 10, 2015

I truly would like to hear how Anna Pogorilaya, Elena Ilinykh, Evgenia Medvedeva, and Polina Tsurkaya say their names.

And Misha Ge.

TheGrandSophy · Oct 10, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb5GhaldLKU

I can't find a video of Papadakis & Cizeron introducing themselves but in this video their names are said a few times. The best is at 0.28 I think as their faces are on screen and when they are introduced by full name they reply "bonjour."

dorispulaski · Oct 11, 2015

Thank you!

sabinfire · Oct 12, 2015

Edited clips

Chafik Besseghier:
https://youtu.be/g8Ajde8WTGU

Kaitlyn Weaver & Andrew Poje:
https://youtu.be/mklLH3bOZGo

Madison Chock & Evan Bates:
https://youtu.be/ToitIeXDKEQ

Jason Brown:
https://youtu.be/B4ojlxkopFU

Maia Shibutani & Alex Shibutani:
https://youtu.be/Zk4jOQV4BFs

Gracie Gold:
https://youtu.be/BVGLq3Yh9Mk

Courtney Hicks:
https://youtu.be/vTgQAmXG_ZQ

dorispulaski · Oct 12, 2015

ice coverage · Oct 13, 2015

dorispulaski said:
... I hope someone finds more files of Russian and Japanese skaters pronouncing their names!

Kanako Murakami saying her name (Murakami Kanako) in 2014:
https://youtu.be/XWyxGBKyVx8

Hard for my ears to catch completely, but Takahito Mura saying his name (Mura Takahito) in 2014:
https://youtu.be/9daOOWNzx98

Hard for my ears to catch completely, but Narumi Takahashi (Takahashi Narumi) and Ryuichi Kihara (Kihara Ryuichi) saying their names in 2014:
https://youtu.be/Aw3aZebXhdo

Cathy Reed and Chris Reed saying their names "in Japanese" in 2014:
https://youtu.be/De_-WE_P3Bo

If of any interest:

I know we already have a good version of Satoko; here she is saying Miyahara Satoko in 2014:
https://youtu.be/EvVMznIMROM

I know we already have a good version of Yuzuru; here he is saying Hanyu Yuzuru in 2015:
https://youtu.be/9F1MTOiAVqk?t=1m10s (starting at approx. 1:10)

Thanks again to sabinfire and Doris.

p.s. Lest anyone wonder, I am well aware that it is customary in Japan to say one's family name first. Not saying that anything is weird about that. Just making note that the names (understandably) are heard in non-Western order in most of the videos in this post.

dorispulaski · Oct 13, 2015

Thank you, golden411

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