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Ilia Malinin


Good news! It's not geoblocked!!!
just checked- it's blocked in the U.S. Good thing for Peacock and thus not waiting around for NBC or ISU.
 
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Okay. I found a link to Ilia's FP on YouTube. Surprisingly, CBC Sports' video of it is not geoblocked. However, if me posting it here becomes the reason it becomes geoblocked for the USA, I'll take the blame lol.

 
:ROFLMAO:Lol the translator for the winners speech really shortened things.
Not saying this is a good translation, but it seemed something like:
Ilia: I'm feeling just amazing I just don't know. I don't have words for what just happened. I'm still trying to express... trying to think of what's going on...incredible feeling to me. I never felt this before
Translator: Right now he is very very happy. Already speechless.
Ilia: When I came here I was really just not in such a great mood to skate, but coming here and knowing I should just trust my training and trust all the hours I put in and I am just really I put it all out here
Translator: He came here just believing in the results of his daily training, which brought confidence entering into this competition .

Also Ilia being too tired to notice his dad's high fives:ROFLMAO:
 
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Why do the NBC commentators pronounce his name "mah-lean-in" while Ilia himself pronounces it "mal-uh-nin" on his IG stories, just like the way the announcer at the GPF announced it?
 
Why do the NBC commentators pronounce his name "mah-lean-in" while Ilia himself pronounces it "mal-uh-nin" on his IG stories, just like the way the announcer at the GPF announced it?
From what I know from reading some letters in Cyrillic (Not an expert by ANY means), the letter that looks like a backwards N is pronounced as "ee" as in "lean." So I admitingly was a bit confused on the pronunciation early on myself.
 
From what I know from reading some letters in Cyrillic (Not an expert by ANY means), the letter that looks like a backwards N is pronounced as "ee" as in "lean." So I admitingly was a bit confused on the pronunciation early on myself.

This makes sense to me so at first I assumed that the NBC commentators were pronouncing it the "correct" way but then I started hearing Ilia pronounce it in IG stories and in interviews and whatnot and his pronunciation differed. I assume Ilia knows how to pronounce his own name and then therefore that was the correct way. It's neither here nor there, but it would be great to say his name correctly when I'm referring to him. I'm just very confused at this point. I know when Johnny pronounces a Russian name, he puts extra effort into the accent to try and say it in the traditional manner, but it's not just him in this case. It's all the commentators.
 
Why do the NBC commentators pronounce his name "mah-lean-in" while Ilia himself pronounces it "mal-uh-nin" on his IG stories, just like the way the announcer at the GPF announced it?
LI is a stressed syllable, so should be a long and clear 'ea' as in lean, with a strong emphasis on it. so, something like Mah-LEeeeeh-n'n.

English speakers normally get the stressed syllable all wrong in Russian last names. It's basically a given. But then again, we all stress Uno's name wring versus how the Japanese commentators say it, with the stress on O, not U...
 
This makes sense to me so at first I assumed that the NBC commentators were pronouncing it the "correct" way but then I started hearing Ilia pronounce it in IG stories and in interviews and whatnot and his pronunciation differed. I assume Ilia knows how to pronounce his own name and then therefore that was the correct way. It's neither here nor there, but it would be great to say his name correctly when I'm referring to him. I'm just very confused at this point. I know when Johnny pronounces a Russian name, he puts extra effort into the accent to try and say it in the traditional manner, but it's not just him in this case. It's all the commentators.
Nah, Ilia has an noticeable, if not very strong, accent, so he doesn't get Russian vowels completely right. There was an interview when the 3 of them went to the JWC together, Naumov, Torgashev and Malinin, and Ilia spoke a lot in Russian.

Russian vowels, particularly the stressed ones, are really, really large. It's very hard for an English speaker to reproduce that, because most native accents smoosh vowels.
 
Nah, Ilia has an noticeable, if not very strong, accent, so he doesn't get Russian vowels completely right. There was an interview when the 3 of them went to the JWC together, Naumov, Torgashev and Malinin, and Ilia spoke a lot in Russian.

Russian vowels, particularly the stressed ones, are really, really large. It's very hard for an English speaker to reproduce that, because most native accents smoosh vowels.

I agree with everything you're saying. But with that logic, isn't Ilia pronouncing his own name incorrectly. See his latest Instagram post as an example of what I'm talking about. He does not pronounce the "lean"

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0upIwvr4ZO
 
I agree with everything you're saying. But with that logic, isn't Ilia pronouncing his own name incorrectly. See his latest Instagram post as an example of what I'm talking about. He does not pronounce the "lean"

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0upIwvr4ZO
Yes, he speaks English, so he pronounces his last name as an English speaker would: shifts stress to MAH, and leaves the li unstressed, so he gobbles it. Malinin is a common Russuan surname, so...it's anyone's choice, including his, to anglicize or not. One thing people tend to forget about Ilia, is that he is an American kid. He's never been to Russia, and English is his primary language.
 
You only need to listen to a rendition of Kalinka-Malinka to hear the root word his last name comes from, heh, with a thunderous stress on LI...
 
Yes, he speaks English, so he pronounces his last name as an English speaker would: shifts stress to MAH, and leaves the li unstressed, so he gobbles it. Malinin is a common Russuan surname, so...it's anyone's choice, including his, to anglicize or not. One thing people tend to forget about Ilia, is that he is an American kid. He's never been to Russia, and English is his primary language.

And yet Johnny, Tara, and Andrea Joyce are also English-speaking, but they stress the "lean". So my point is, if Ilia pronounces his name as "Mal-uh-nin", and that's what he refers to himself as shouldn't others do the same?
 
And yet Johnny, Tara, and Andrea Joyce are also English-speaking, but they stress the "lean". So my point is, if Ilia pronounces his name as "Mal-uh-nin", and that's what he refers to himself as shouldn't others do the same?
Names mean things. Malinin's parents could have decided to call him Elijah instead of Ilia, for him to fit in better. They could have chosen Skornyakov as his last name, setting him up for lifetime of spelling it out and running out of boxes on every form he has to fill out. They likely had to fight a minor bureaucratic battle to have him recorded as Malinin, not Malinina, using his mother's name verbatum, because he is a boy, not a girl. Maybe, if his sister also uses their mother's name, they have to explain why their two kids have last names that sound different from one another to an English speaker.

Maybe he says it differently when he speaks Russian--that's not unusual, because you naturally adjust names when you are bilingual to the flow of the language you are speaking right now. Maybe he anglicises it due to current politics. Maybe, he just got resigned, because everywhere he went, from day one, that's how English speaking teachers and peers said it. I mean, parents rarely refer to their children by their last name.

Ask him, why not?

In the end, malina is maLIna, not MAlina. Ilia can't change that. So, MAH-linin sounds as weird as Eipel'berriiiie would have sounded if Edward Appleberry decided to pronounce his last name that way.

Everyone has to decide for themselves if it sounds like every other Malinin, or if it's special, including Johnny. I know that for me, well, I will go with MaLInin, because for me, in my personal circumstances, it's important to have a symbol of a child of Russian immigrants being a success story.
 
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Nathan "Chen" is not pronounced that way in Mandarin.

Personally, since everyone has used the American pronunciation of my last name since day one, the thought of it being offensive or weird didn't occur as a kid. I would be weirded out if someone tried to pronouce my last name "correctly" together with my American first name. Best save the "correct" pronunciation for my other name.

Since Ilia has a full Russian name, instead a half/half name like mine, it flows nicely when said the anglicized way or the original Russian way. Seeing as he's gone through the American school system and talks to his parents in Russian, he can probably comfortably respond to both pronunciations of his name.
 

Ilia posted a picture with his mother of the both of them wearing their Grand Prix Final gold medals from the respective years they won theirs.
 
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