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Is there a limit to how many times someone can use a program throughout their career?
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You know, we frequently have discussions about junior skaters performing to age-inappropriate material like Big Spender.
Maybe it's time for a discussion about mature skaters using Romeo and Juliet.
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Wow. Kind of hard to imagine what an artistically mature and musically nuanced Riverdance would look like. Maybe we will find out.We may see this weekend.
Riverdance (LP) with Jason at 30, as opposed to Riverdance (SP) with Jason at 19.
He said in a recent interview that he was bringing back Riverdance as a thank you to the fans. Which sounds more like goodbyethan the reworking of adult reflecting on his long career versus a up and coming teenager.
I would like to see Jason thank me for my support by redoing The Room Where it Happens. though I suppose that this topical program is no longer current enough for. reprise. To me, that was a great program, but Jason never delivered a perfectly clean performance of it, so it is not as highly regarded.
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Of course, one could compare figure skating to artistic swimming. That would be relevant.
How would artistic swimming fans feel if their favourite team repeated the same program over and over again?
Of course, the elephant in the room here is that some fans of a specific skater will want to justify reusing the same program over and over because their protégé did it plenty.
I guess it's ecological to reuse and recycle so kudos to skaters who do it.
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Is it really necessary to start that sort of snidery in yet another thread? @Mathman mentioned Michelle Kwan (6.0 GOAT) after all. You have your opinion, I have mine, and it's not a matter where there is a cut and dried 'right' one.
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I am not starting anything here. Just making an observation. We all have our biases and opinions, that's all good with me. Leaving this topic alone for now.
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So I guess the jab was at the person who praised Kwan's Fields of Gold?
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There was no jab, just a different opinion.
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"some fans of a specific skater..."
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Yes. As I said, this is my opinion from something I have observed. I am not looking for an argument here. How many times did Brian Joubert skate to the Matrix ? Too many times for me. Maybe not enough times for some of his fans.
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Look, let's leave it here.
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I don’t think I need to mention it, but yes, using the same music again doesn’t mean performing the exact same program. For example, Mao used “Nocturne” again for her SP, but years apart, with different choreography, jump setups, and with more maturity and experience. This gives us a completely new appreciation of the program. That’s creative, and I’m fine with it. The problem is when skaters perform exactly the same program with the same elements and choreography for consecutive seasons. I feel that sometimes it works, and other times it doesn’t, especially when the sport’s rules change, and a program that was performed before no longer carries the same weight in component or technical scores as it did previously.
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I can understand that in some cases it has to do with each skater’s financial situation, though.”
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I can understand that in some cases it has to do with each skater’s financial situation, though.”
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Imagine if we could actually vote on that at the end of each season, lol.
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We would have had Junliet foreeeever.
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We could ban repeats of “Never Enough.” Love the idea
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Betcha popular vote would keep it in. People (going by popular vote in talent shows) seem to like that song, especially the versions where they go "for me, for me, for meaaaaaaaaahhhhhhyyyyyy"
(my pet peeve)
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Betcha popular vote would keep it in. People (going by popular vote in talent shows) seem to like that song, especially the versions where they go "for me, for me, for meaaaaaaaaahhhhhhyyyyyy"
There is one sure-fire way to stop people singing a particular song on a talent show - do like "Britain's Got Talent" did and invite the original singer to audition as well. Nobody is going to have the nerve to sing somebody's song when they are also there singing it!
For the benefit of those that haven't seen it, here is Loren Allred's 2022 audition:
Loren Allred - "Never Enough"
I have time-stamped the video to skip the sob story she told to get the sympathy vote. A tactic that many contestants use, but which ultimately backfired for Loren when people discovered that, far from being unknown, she did actually have a successful career off the back of the song.
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I rather like the idea of keeping 1 programme for two seasons and changing the other. In pair skating a couple would have something new and something old each season. So one a bit more routine (but still challenging) and the other altogether challenging (and the routin slipping in towards the end of the season).
I also don't mind if skaters turn back to a popular programme after a few years, or as Olivia and Tim are now doing: make a sequel of a popular programme. That's about it.
After that it gets boring, and I think the judges will think so too even if they're not allowed to let it impact their scores!
I also don't mind if skaters turn back to a popular programme after a few years, or as Olivia and Tim are now doing: make a sequel of a popular programme. That's about it.
After that it gets boring, and I think the judges will think so too even if they're not allowed to let it impact their scores!
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I think that 4everchan is not talking about Yuzuru Hanyu fans or Michelle Kwan fans. I think je is saying that, in general, if a skater re-uses a popular and successful program, fans of that particular skater will be happy to see it.
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