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Is there any skater that EVERYBODY loves?

Angela Nikidinov.
Naaaa, I do not "love" her. Do not "hate" her either. I just find her boring. There are a bunch of do-not-love/do-not-hate-skaters like her, because most of the time they're too meaningless to cause such kind of emotions.
 
Naaaa, I do not "love" her. Do not "hate" her either. I just find her boring. There are a bunch of do-not-love/do-not-hate-skaters like her, because most of the time they're too meaningless to cause such kind of emotions.

Ditto on Angela. She seemed to have more spark in her skating briefly with her new coach in 2000-2001, then sadly she passed away and that spark left.
 
The problem is that any skater we can think of can be disliked because of people's preferences:

1. Jumps too small
2. Not pushing the envelope
3. Not polished
4. Never stretched their legs
5. Speed over elegance
6. Crappy competitor
7. Who cares about competitiveness when s/he's such a nice person?
8. Stole his/her eligible title, but became a wonderful pro skater
9. Didn't fulfill his/her potential
10. Never tried the quad
11. Never landed the quad
12. Didn't have the triple (loop, sal, etc.)
13. Had a so-so triple axel, flutzed, lipped, no real sit spin,
14. Could have replaced the music with any other music
15. His/her coach gives me the creeps
16. Front-loaded all the programs
17. Never had original music
18. Choked at the Olympics
19. Empty programs
20. No choreography
21. Allways skated in the same direction
22. Too macho
23. Too baroque
24. Overrated
25. Held up by the judges from the XYZ bloc
26. Boring

And those are the ones we'll admit to (Unlike, "Beat my favorite and I'll never forgive him/her)
 
Yuka Sato.

Tell that to Surya Bonaly.

For the record, I too would have Bonaly behind Sato in 94 and thought Bonaly's behavior was exessive. OTOH I never in a million years would have placed Baiul ahead of Bonaly in 93, a crock of a decision that no one (least of all Baiul) any good.
 
Is there any skater that EVERYBODY loves?


Short answer: No. And good thing too! When nobody dislikes you it probably means either:
a) they don't take you seriously (who dislikes a kitten or puppy?)
b) what you're doing is completely unnecessary
c) you're a dictator with the power of life or death over the helpless crowds who must fall in reverence before your magnificence (and Kwan is the only skater that's true of*)


*to Kwan uberfans: Kwan is one of my all-time favorites, okay? just kidding okay? ha ha ha, good joke, huh? (looks nervously for an escape route)
 
Tell that to Surya Bonaly.

For the record, I too would have Bonaly behind Sato in 94 and thought Bonaly's behavior was exessive. OTOH I never in a million years would have placed Baiul ahead of Bonaly in 93, a crock of a decision that no one (least of all Baiul) any good.

I forgot about that. I agree about 93. Bonaly wuz really robbed that time.
 
Does loving a specific skater (or team) require a belief that (a) all the skater's wins are justifed and (b) any losses means the skater "wuzrobbed"? Can't I love a skater and still think they might have been held up in one event, or, deseved to lose another, or at least, that reasonable minds can differ?


Good question! It's that "belief" from others that turned me off of Kwan...nobody is perfect.

Having said that, I don't dislike any skaters (their fans, yes, but not the skaters, lol!)
 
Tell that to Surya Bonaly.

For the record, I too would have Bonaly behind Sato in 94 and thought Bonaly's behavior was exessive. OTOH I never in a million years would have placed Baiul ahead of Bonaly in 93, a crock of a decision that no one (least of all Baiul) any good.
At that time, the Powers-to-Be were on a roll and Baiul was being groomed for the Olys. Just to play up the little cute waif. The words were Knock out Bonaly and then Knock out Kerrigan. Ignore the double foot landings. JMO.

Joe

The problem is that any skater we can think of can be disliked because of people's preferences:

1. Jumps too small
2. Not pushing the envelope
3. Not polished
4. Never stretched their legs
5. Speed over elegance
6. Crappy competitor
7. Who cares about competitiveness when s/he's such a nice person?
8. Stole his/her eligible title, but became a wonderful pro skater
9. Didn't fulfill his/her potential
10. Never tried the quad
11. Never landed the quad
12. Didn't have the triple (loop, sal, etc.)
13. Had a so-so triple axel, flutzed, lipped, no real sit spin,
14. Could have replaced the music with any other music
15. His/her coach gives me the creeps
16. Front-loaded all the programs
17. Never had original music
18. Choked at the Olympics
19. Empty programs
20. No choreography
21. Allways skated in the same direction
22. Too macho
23. Too baroque
24. Overrated
25. Held up by the judges from the XYZ bloc
26. Boring

And those are the ones we'll admit to (Unlike, "Beat my favorite and I'll never forgive him/her)

Great list Hockeyfan. Lots of fodder for Summer NitPiks. ;)

Joe
 
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Tell that to Surya Bonaly.

For the record, I too would have Bonaly behind Sato in 94 and thought Bonaly's behavior was exessive. OTOH I never in a million years would have placed Baiul ahead of Bonaly in 93, a crock of a decision that no one (least of all Baiul) any good.

Baiul as an amateur was incredibly overrated I found. You look at her only ever amateur long program and it had:

1)No footwork sequence
2)Only a short little spiral sequence
3)no real combination spin
4)only 3 total spins
5)took forever to set up her jumps
6)no combination jump
7)long stretches of plain stroking, and she wasnt exactly a Yuka Sato or Shizuka Arakawa on the blade where you savored those streches either.

I found all the talk about her beautiful and mesmerizing artistry just bizarre. To me she was a little girl with some nice big jumps, although which too long to set up and couldnt combination jump to save her life, and some spunky flair. That was it.

If she had not been outrageously overrated out of nowhere for a couple years as an amateur it is interesting to wonder how differently she would have turned out. She did still show great potential, and maybe she would have had a long amateur career, and matured as a person along with a skater without getting on her high horse after the skating world anointed her something she really shouldnt have been at that point, and we may have seen a wonderful skater and ambassador for the sport for many years.
 
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The problem is that any skater we can think of can be disliked because of people's preferences:

1. Jumps too small
2. Not pushing the envelope
3. Not polished
4. Never stretched their legs
5. Speed over elegance
6. Crappy competitor
7. Who cares about competitiveness when s/he's such a nice person?
8. Stole his/her eligible title, but became a wonderful pro skater
9. Didn't fulfill his/her potential
10. Never tried the quad
11. Never landed the quad
12. Didn't have the triple (loop, sal, etc.)
13. Had a so-so triple axel, flutzed, lipped, no real sit spin,
14. Could have replaced the music with any other music
15. His/her coach gives me the creeps
16. Front-loaded all the programs
17. Never had original music
18. Choked at the Olympics
19. Empty programs
20. No choreography
21. Allways skated in the same direction
22. Too macho
23. Too baroque
24. Overrated
25. Held up by the judges from the XYZ bloc
26. Boring

And those are the ones we'll admit to (Unlike, "Beat my favorite and I'll never forgive him/her)

Here is the rest of the list (of reasons why no skater will ever be loved by everyone):

http://isuparody.tripod.com/parodies/rantpost.htm
 
Watching tapes today

I know he got a lot of flack around 1992 but Paul Wylie seems to be a guy that gets a lot of praise now... ?
 
Many of us loved him before 1992 and suffered every time he took the ice and self-destructed and loved him any way. People who didn't love him thought he was a head-case.
 
Gotta love Brian Boitano and all he has given to the sport and his fans; dedication, consistency, an incredible work ethic and graciousness. He was a big part of the boom of professional skating after the 1988 Olympics starting his own successful tour and a television show. I have met him on several occasions and was never disappointed.

Also have to give props to Dick Button (though I know not all love him) for his undying love and support of figure skating.

I think Kristi Yamaguchi shares(shared) the same work ethic as Brian. They are among the very few who kept up such a high level of technical ability over a long span of time. Very difficult to do.
 
Of course not! Because everyone has flaws, no matter how perfect a given skater may seem at any one given performance.

Dizzy
 
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