Jason Brown

[fzztsimmons]

Jason is on the entry list for the Peggy Fleming Trophy 2021, which again, like last year, will be held virtually on July 16th.
Excited that we may get a new programme from Jason? I can't see him re-using Melancholy again, and I don't know if it would be too tricky to rework Sinnerman for the requirments. Regardless, third win in a row for Jason perhaps?

 

[katmari]

Jason is on the entry list for the Peggy Fleming Trophy 2021, which again, like last year, will be held virtually on July 16th.
Excited that we may get a new programme from Jason? I can't see him re-using Melancholy again, and I don't know if it would be too tricky to rework Sinnerman for the requirments. Regardless, third win in a row for Jason perhaps?

I'm cross posting my response from the Peggy Fleming Trophy thread:

Jason could skate to "Arcade" (the piece he performed and also choreographed) for the Pivoting through the Pandemic special. His performance starts at around 21:20:

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[Bookseller]

I'm cross posting my response from the Peggy Fleming Trophy thread:

Jason could skate to "Arcade" (the piece he performed and also choreographed) for the Pivoting through the Pandemic special. His performance starts at around 21:20:

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That is exactly what I was thinking. I'm excited to see that he's working on his own choreo. He took a lot of dance classes during the quarantine and I'll bet it piqued his interest in doing some choreography. It would be a perfect piece for Peggy Fleming.

 

[el henry]

I am also leaning to the Arcade piece. It seems lyrical, like Melancholy. Also a perfect no-pressure way to get your own choreo out there.

Even if liberally borrowed from Rohene. Who better to borrow from?

 

[Bookseller]

As Rohene said, staying in the family! Rohene's genius is showcasing what his skaters do best.

 

[Bookseller]

So here for those interested in looking at how these programs have progressed over time, are all the SPs from 2013/14 on:

2013/14 Prince: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x178kmb

2015 Love is Blindness: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WCvYNGUnuVU

2016 Appassionata: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qnme3TO_-oU

2017 Writings on Wall: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CSEKVUV8bBI

2018 Hamilton: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_FesDvAI0

2019 Love is a B*: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7dlAd8Wa8NE

2020 Can’t go on without you: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=naEncCHKeLc

2021 Sinnerman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naEncCHKeLc

Thoughts?

I've re-watched the 1st 4. I barely remembered Gatsby and Appassionata, but I know I saw them when he was competing them. But I loved Writings on the Wall so much, it pretty much blotted out his other shorts for me. I still love that program. I'll watch the last 4 skates later. So much fun revisiting these!

 

[DreamSkates]

I'm afraid I just don't see Jason doing choreo. He has said in many articles how difficult it is for him to adapt and learn Rohene's choreo.

Jason is a master interpreter, not a creator, and that's fine. An accomplished musician does not *need* to be a composer.

Isn't choreography an interpretation of music?

 

[el henry]

Isn't choreography an interpretation of music?

Well, we now know that Jason is a choreographer, so it's a moot point

But more generally, I do not see choreo as interpretation. Interpretation is a talented Shakespearean actor playing a part. Choreo is Shakespeare writing the play. The actor does not need to be Shakespeare to offer a masterful interpretation.

 

[fzztsimmons]

I'm cross posting my response from the Peggy Fleming Trophy thread:

Jason could skate to "Arcade" (the piece he performed and also choreographed) for the Pivoting through the Pandemic special. His performance starts at around 21:20:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

I hadn't seen this!! But Jason + a Eurovision song??? Sign me the eff up!!

 

[el henry]

Having done some of the SP viewing, I will say this:

The "dance" programs are fascinating when watched relatively close together. I see Gatsby as the precursor to Sinnerman. Chock full of transitions, interesting movement, and busy busy busy. But with Gatsby, Jason was still doing the peppy dancer program to jazzy music and in tone, it does feel like Juke.

By the time of Sinnerman, Jason was further on his journey and could demonstrate the depth of feeling Sinnerman requires. So all of the movements of Gatsby (and I realize the Ailey movements are different, I mean the number and variation of movement) with a completely different vibe and approach. A singular one, that we all knew Jason could do, but maybe surprised the poor benighted souls who thought he was cheesy or fake.

If that makes any sense.

 

[Bookseller]

Having done some of the SP viewing, I will say this:

The "dance" programs are fascinating when watched relatively close together. I see Gatsby as the precursor to Sinnerman. Chock full of transitions, interesting movement, and busy busy busy. But with Gatsby, Jason was still doing the peppy dancer program to jazzy music and in tone, it does feel like Juke.

By the time of Sinnerman, Jason was further on his journey and could demonstrate the depth of feeling Sinnerman requires. So all of the movements of Gatsby (and I realize the Ailey movements are different, I mean the number and variation of movement) with a completely different vibe and approach. A singular one, that we all knew Jason could do, but maybe surprised the poor benighted souls who thought he was cheesy or fake.

If that makes any sense.

I noticed that also watching Gatsby. He dropped it that year because all the changes of direction caused back pain. Clearly the training techniques that he followed in later years fixed that problem. And his maturity gives his skating greater depth. But the seeds of Sinnerman are definitely there. Jason and Ro had to wait until he grew into that program. This season is going to be very interesting!

 

[dorispulaski]

Thank you so much for posting all the SP links! I have a great week in front of me!

 

[Tavi...]

Thank you so much for posting all the SP links! I have a great week in front of me!

Glad you like the idea! Please let us know your thoughts - I’ve been kind of waiting to post mine until others who want to have a chance to weigh in.

 

[sdwyer52]

Thank you so much for posting all the SP links! I have a great week in front of me!

I enjoyed the SP’s very much.

 

[Bookseller]

I've re-watched the 1st 4. I barely remembered Gatsby and Appassionata, but I know I saw them when he was competing them. But I loved Writings on the Wall so much, it pretty much blotted out his other shorts for me. I still love that program. I'll watch the last 4 skates later. So much fun revisiting these!

I still have to watch the last two, but wanted to respond while I was still fresh on the details. I watched Writings on the Wall, Hamilton at 4CCs and Lovie is a Bi***. The 3A in Writings was phenomenal. One of the best he's ever done. I love that program and it was beautifully done. He got a great score. Looked at from this distance I can see how far he's traveled from that program. He's faster, more fluid, and more expressive, but that was a big jump up from his previous shorts. Hamilton was hard to watch, because this was Post Nationals and I know the pain that he was feeling. It was his last competition with Kori. But with the exception of a slightly bobbled 3A, it was a good program, well executed, but without expression or strong feeling. He was mentally exhausted. He did well at that comp, but he struggled to get through it and not let it show. Love is a Bit*** was all Jason, but I would say a new Jason. His upper body was so much more expressive, his jumps were more powerful and his fluidity was significantly better. And I had totally forgotten that he outscored Yuzu with that skate. Sadly he had to get through Simon and Garfunkel, but the new coaching was definitely showing in his short. And I see this as the beginning of the genius partnership with Rohene. With Kori out of the picture, this was just Jason and Ro and it's brilliant. His speed and intensity will increase, but that short was amazing and deserved that score! I was also touched and happy to see the standing ovation for this short from the audience at World's. That was phenomenal. It was an accolade and it was a message to Jason that he was back and moving in the right direction.

I'll watch the last two later, but that group of 3 was really interesting and impressive! Jason is one of a kind, for sure!

 

[Bookseller]

Sylvia posted this on FSU. Definitely a fun hour with Jason!

Watch the 8/23/20 Community Zoom meeting with Jason Brown and the Junior Board

Watch the 8/23/20 Community Zoom meeting with Jason Brown and the Junior Board

www.peninsulaskatingclub.org

This Zoom meeting took place last fall. It was posted, but it was aimed at young skaters, so I didn't sign up. If you haven't seen it, the questions are very good, his answers are candid and complete and it's not the same questions and answers that we always hear. Some territory is familiar, but there is lots more.

 

[ice coverage]

...

ETA (on Dec 3):

... Although it is from Aug 2020, it was not previously posted in this thread, AFAIK.

Peninsula Skating Club had an hour-long Zoom meeting with Jason. Rick Perez interviewed him during the first part, and then members of the junior board had a chance to interact with Jason and ask him a series of questions.
I'm glad that I finally spent an hour watching this video today. Learned some things about Jason that were new at least to me. (Disclaimer: My knowledge of Jason is by no means encyclopedic, but I have read/watched quite a few of his interviews over the years. The video understandably covered some ground that was familiar, but I did hear other stuff for the first time.)

A couple of parts that particularly interested me:

Toward the end, Jason discussed ways to take care of his mental health.
On a lighter note, at the beginning, Rick (who often is a USFS team leader) reminisced about being with Jason and his family at competitions overseas. Rick said that Jason was almost like an assistant team leader.​

Watch the 8/23/20 Community Zoom meeting with Jason Brown and the Junior Board

Watch the 8/23/20 Community Zoom meeting with Jason Brown and the Junior Board

www.peninsulaskatingclub.org

Sylvia posted this on FSU. Definitely a fun hour with Jason!

Watch the 8/23/20 Community Zoom meeting with Jason Brown and the Junior Board

Watch the 8/23/20 Community Zoom meeting with Jason Brown and the Junior Board

www.peninsulaskatingclub.org

This Zoom meeting took place last fall. It was posted, but it was aimed at young skaters, so I didn't sign up. If you haven't seen it, the questions are very good, his answers are candid and complete and it's not the same questions and answers that we always hear. Some territory is familiar, but there is lots more.

Agree that the Peninsula video is enjoyable and had some stuff that was not same-old-same-old.

I had come across it last year, and will take the liberty of quoting my thoughts posted in this thread then.

 

[dorispulaski]

I particularly noticed how much more disciplined and appropriate his hand gestures became since Gatsby.

But I particularly like the Prince program, Writing on the Wall, and Sinnerman

 

[Bookseller]

Agree that the Peninsula video is enjoyable and had some stuff that was not same-old-same-old.

I had come across it last year, and will take the liberty of quoting my thoughts posted in this thread then.

Missed that the first time around. I had an exceptionally crazy end of 2020 and beginning of 2021, so not surprised. A friend sent me the link and it was my first chance to watch it.

I noted the mental health references and all the good advice on how to talk with your coach. There was lots of interesting information in this Zoom. And the glimpse into Jason's early career was fun to hear about. The different roads taken by Rick and Jason show that skaters follow different career paths and get to different places. It's good for young skaters to see that and hear about it.

 

[el henry]

I just realized that this USFS article about US Figure skating men
From Button to Chen, American men push the limits

has a quote from Jason:

".....Jason Brown, who has become a program components virtuoso.

'I fell in love with skating because of the performance aspect of the sport,' Brown said. 'I remember seeing Matt (Savoie), Evan (Lysacek) and Johnny (Weir) in 2006, and they are three very different athletes. They helped me realize that there are different paths to success and that I could make my own way in the sport.' "

Could it be that USFS actually does appreciate Jason