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I just watched Javi´s sp clip from 2017 Autumn Classic and thought the entity of program, music and choreography was really great. And Javi gave a performance which looks exactly right for an end September performance, IMO, keeping in mind that there are about 5 months until the Olympics. I´m so glad that this sp feels like a totally new sp!
Cannot agree any more. Should give a big shout out for his first outing of the season. Wish him stay healthy and remain in high spirit throughout the season. No matter what outcome would be in the Olympics, I hope he could give it a full run.

On a side note, I am not sure about his costume of this SP, he dressed more like a modest balletic prince than a shabby homeless man/poor worker in the Morden Time, puzzling about the bling bling of his outfit, but I guess that they have to give it a touch of a stage look to make it different from a cheep cardigan pulling out of the rack of Wal-Mart. As to the semi-sleeve, I guess he may feel comfortable with this tailoring. In sum, I think the overall he wore during summer tours fits the theme better, but understand it may not be helpful with big jumps in competitions.

Look forward to the free skate tomorrow.
 
Cannot agree any more. Should give a big shout out for his first outing of the season. Wish him stay healthy and remain in high spirit throughout the season. No matter what outcome would be in the Olympics, I hope he could give it a full run.

On a side note, I am not sure about his costume of this SP, he dressed more like a modest balletic prince than a shabby homeless man/poor worker in the Morden Time, puzzling about the bling bling of his outfit, but I guess that they have to give it a touch of a stage look to make it different from a cheep cardigan pulling out of the rack of Wal-Mart. As to the semi-sleeve, I guess he may feel comfortable with this tailoring. In sum, I think the overall he wore during summer tours fits the theme better, but understand it may not be helpful with big jumps in competitions.

Look forward to the free skate tomorrow.

Could not agree more!! Then again, I'm not usually a fan of his costumes (with some exceptions, but still)
Here's the link for the SP for those too lazy to search for it in YouTube: https://youtu.be/QAhb0nY7v_c

It felt fun, refreshing even if he had skated to it before, and the music was again really well choreographied. It was goofier than last season's SP but man do I love some dorky Javi!!
I hope he continues to improve it during the session. It sure started strong!
 
I just watched Javi´s sp clip from 2017 Autumn Classic and thought the entity of program, music and choreography was really great. And Javi gave a performance which looks exactly right for an end September performance, IMO, keeping in mind that there are about 5 months until the Olympics. I´m so glad that this sp feels like a totally new sp!

Totally agree with you, the program is really good, and his performance better than in other first competitions. And I love the costume too :luv17:
 
Well, that was a strong start of the season for Javi! There were of course mistakes, but I think it's a good program for the Olympics, one that can really bring out his potential. I wish him the best of luck.

Also I'm really glad he won because that's the only time he gets like two words about him in the Spanish media coverage :P

So congratulations for him in one bittersweet evening (the skating gods didn't smile at us today)
 
I really like the costume, it´s simple and in the same time really elegan looking. Of course the freeskate program feels rather raw in this point, but I saw e.g. Guys and Dolls at least about a month later in season and it felt a bit raw. I hope that Javi stays healthy and by getting all levels he will be great at the Olympics. Maybe adding one more quad starting in his first or second GP? The freeskate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nDUKOUeyeU
 
Have been very busy at work lately but took the time to watch the first competition, of course. The FS was a big relief for me because I do not like the source material very much. But they have put together a varied and cool storyline with a good music cut. The costume is perfect - period sensitive but also elegant.

The SP I liked already during the summer shows, but seeing it with the proper jumps lifted it higher still. The costume sucks though, completely inappropriate for the theme.

As for the added 4Lo, there does not seem to be space for it in the current layout of the FS. The 3Lo is earlier in the 2nd part but it would seem unlikely that he would put a new jump in the latter part and that it could have an ina bauer as an entry... I just hope the decision not to include it from the start is correct still when the season closes.

He was obviously very tired towards the end and the steps did not look very good - more runthroughs and then some. Check the practice runthroughs from YT with better (but partial) steps. suspect this might be like the Barber of Seville which almost killed him every time with the very explosive choreosq at the end!

A very nice start to the season and can't wait to how the FS develops by Japan Open!

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Congratulations Javi! I think these programs will grow on me as they develop. Just hoping he will be able to stay healthy; it is going to be a long season.

But I was most happy that he and Yuzu shared the podium for the first time in over a year! The sportsmanship between them is heartwarming.
 
Thanks for the link, Evergreen!

I don´t understand much of what they are talking because of the echo in the arena... Anyway, what I like very much is this (compared to many other skaters): As Javier is being interviewed he looks into the face of the interviewer and speaks to him and is not trying to look onto the camera all the time and the interviewer got it, too.
 
Hey, lovely compilation!! As a fellow Fernández fan I really appreciate the effort!
Just wanted to offer a hand in any translations (specially since there's the new YouTube channel and stuff). I know some have been translated already (even if some are a bit incomplete), so it may be in any future ones :p

Has there been any Spanish articles about his recent win?
 
Thanks for the link, Evergreen!

I don´t understand much of what they are talking because of the echo in the arena... Anyway, what I like very much is this (compared to many other skaters): As Javier is being interviewed he looks into the face of the interviewer and speaks to him and is not trying to look onto the camera all the time and the interviewer got it, too.
Yes, I also noticed this. Boy, he has a set of most beautiful eyes.

I wish Ted could have selected a better sound-proof location or interviewed him after victory ceremony, but I still appreciate this very much, as it seems that only Canadian skaters got media coverage, other than Japanese, which made this interview more precious.

It is still very early in the season, wish his condition is getting better, he needs tons of the energy to execute the final step sequence of his FS.
 
I really like Javi's FS this season. I already liked his SP (posted on the ACI thread about it) but the FS is just so... quintessentially him? I'm looking forward to seeing how it develops further in the coming months.
 
congratulations to Javier on his win at ACI - maybe not fully strong outing from technical perspective, BUT a very impactful, sound one in terms of debuting new programs for me. Both seem right from Javier's alley, but different at the same time - I just feel like they got designed and performed in more multi-dimensional way than only playing out one character. There is for me way more personal engagement into re-creating a vibe of the music this season than just getting into character. Both are definitely keepers for me - with stronger technical aspect, definitely a material for medals. I allowed myself to re-post my thoughts on Javier's programs/performances from ACI threads:

As for Javier - I do think that this program will move me immensely during the season...I have this feeling that he did something different while still being inside his best repetoire/convention to use - the program feels for me quite multi-dimensional in terms of character, story and moods, while Javier for me was usually in one, defined and vivid character in his programs, telling the story by performance. This SP OTOH for me seems to actually 'challenge' Javier in terms of his entertainer's qualities/abilities, as he has to portray both quirkiness/cheekiness of Chaplin's character/music and that nostalgic feel in it. I am definitely a fan of how well the choreography translates music - there is a heavy Chaplin touch in transitions and overall movement, but it looks organic and stylish instead of forced and flashy. I'm also a fan of Javier's moderate expression - it's engaging, but not OTT, the movement/choreography are leading the performance for me and expression is following effortlessly as music builds up. I think that technical side of this program will be amped subsequently by each performance and there will be more speed and attack in it, but as for now, the real highlight is the step sequence - a perfect blend of body control, musicality, gestures and expression, all with effortless quality. I'm very excited how this SP will develop, because for me its power and impact are laying in the intricacy of giving out multi-dimensional feel of character withou playing it in obvious way.

Again - so pleasantly surprised with Javier's FS! Like Chaplin SP, it's still in Javier's repertoire forte, but without being obvious. It's similar to SP in playing out more of a general feel of the music, story and character than playing the character himself in just one dimension. I feel that this FS is even more 'universal' in terms of expression/message given that his previous programs - it kind of plays onto his heritage a bit, using Don Quixote reference, the costume, styling, but expanding it broader by the story behind the character and this 'Impossible dream'. I probably read too much in it, but for me it resembles being a proud Spaniard in figure skating world, fulfilling his dream of success, making it actually possible to achieve. The whole picture feels special for me - nostalgic, emotional, vivid and the ay music is cut is FABULOUS for me (I'm probably in minority). In my opinion the exact way the music is set for this program gives it some kind of 'oomph' factor, certain flavour, unique dimension: a bit quirky, a bit festive even; there is that match for story told in music for me, there is cohesion between music, movement, styling - it all makes already for compelling wholesome. Again - both step sequences are showstopper, the way he plays with music, lyrics, uses gestures - perfection. I think that the program elevates his already fantastic storytelling qualities and it would be a dream to see it skated flawlessly and get him that dreamy Olympic medal.
 
Congrats to Javi! He has two wonderful programs this season and I am looking forward to
seeing them develop. His FS will be a masterpiece, loved it!
 
Has there been any Spanish articles about his recent win?

Yes! Not too remarkable, sadly. We've got some sports newspapers talking about the "amazing comeback" he did after the SP. None talk about how he actually did the program (and those who did... I wonder if they actually watched it?)

I can add some of the media coverage he's had in the Autumn Classic so you can see with your own eyes just how bad is the media coverage of figure skating in this warm, sunny, Mediterranean country.
Just after the SP:
From "Marca": This one is just tragic. He basically praises Javi's SP to divine levels, grudgingly admits Hanyu was OK and adds "but he could use a bit more of facial expression", like ***. Talk about sore losers.
From "AS" and "Mundo Deportivo": Those two are basically the same: they praise Javi's SP and add that Hanyu won with a WR. They're simple. Mundo Deportivo uses a stock photo of Javi from 2015.
After the FP:
From "La Vanguardia": Now this is weird! A non-sports newspaper talking about Javi! Wow! Pity they don't say anything interesting. Just that he won after (as I said above) an amazing comeback, epically getting the upper hand from Yuzuru Hanyu. I swear they make it sound like he almost gets a WR. They also use a photo from 2015 (they liked that costume didn't it?)
From ABC: More or less the same as above. Now this one is a non-sports newspaper...and even an important one! And they used a video of the current competition and not Malagueña o Black Betty or w/e! Wow!!
From "Mundo deportivo": This one is just too funny. They are the same ones that put before the photo from 2015. Fortunately, they knew you don't use the same costume in the SP and in the FP, so they chose a different stock photo of Javi again. Like whaaat are you doing exactly :// . Text-wise it says the same thing: amazing comeback, blah blah blah.
From "Marca": The title is literally: "Knightly Comeback of Javier Fernández to win in the Autumn Classic". And the first paragraph is this jewel: "Like in the best Don Quixote's dream, Javier Fernández pulled of bravery to win the first season's challenge: the Autumn Classic, in an interesting conflict with the actual Olympic and World Champion, the Japanese Yuzuru Hanyu". And all the article has that lame epic tone. It's like reading straight out of one wannabe medieval tournament commentator. Yeah, I get it, you want to play with the Don Quixote theme... but just don't.

Now, the only two more or less interesting articles (they at least add some tidbits of Javi's interviews and programs) are from before the competition.
They're very similar and from the same sports newspaper, As. One is from the 8th September and the other one is from the 22th of September. They've probably extracted tidbits from interviews, maybe even in English, but given that I haven't seen them... Well. This is what Javi says about...
...Autumn Classic: "It's an opportunity to show the new programs and see what the public says about them." "We usually start in Japon, but we wanted to change. We wanted to be able to start in a competition in which we could show both the programs".
...Chaplin: "It's like an old aqueintance. I already did him a few years ago, but this season it's going to be very different, more related to the working world." "I have a special fondness for him, that's true". "I feel comfortable with him".
...Don Quixote: "The costume is really cool" (what a dork :P). "He's a universal character. It'd be good if people got to see and know him". About if he feels identified with him: "Yeah, it could be. I like the comparison. The part about looking for impossible dreams resonates with me. I like that idea."
...training: "You always want to do your best in training, but you also need to control that pressure and know that not everything is going to be perfect all the time. Handling that tension requires maturity".
...Olympics: "This time it's going to be different. I come with more experience and curriculum. However, it's true that there's a new generation of younger skaters pushing up, and everything is going to be pretty balanced"

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Look how happy he looks! You go Javi!!
I also love this photo because he's the only one who still has the same pose LOL

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Both seem right from Javier's alley, but different at the same time - I just feel like they got designed and performed in more multi-dimensional way than only playing out one character. There is for me way more personal engagement into re-creating a vibe of the music this season than just getting into character.

Given what Javi himself has said about his FP I agree wholeheartedly with @NoNameFace that his program has a mix of "universal themes" (such as hope) and his own personal history. Wich, I admire a lot.
Someone said on the ACI thread that it was too mixed and difficult to understand, like many stuff thrown together with any sense whatsoever. I don't agree. I think it tells a complex story full of development, and I love it, and I hope we can see it develop in the next months. I want to analyze the choreography and drag the meaning out because I think I missed some stuff. And I'm looking forward to seeing that absolutely amazing step sequence at the end done as beautifully as he can!!

Sorry for the English btw! Not my first language.
 
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hi Mussique:), first of all - Your English is very good! Next - big, big thanks for providing Spanish coverage of ACI about Javier:thank:. I personally think that he really did not make things easy for him in terms of material this season - for me it's actually an attempt to reflect on the past while taking a step forward, it's definitely not staying in one place or trying to capitalize only on things/experience he already has. I appreciate having this more personal perspective in both his programs AND actually the fact that I was able to see it in his performances. Yes, technique/jumps were not maybe there yet as he would wish, but I think that the base and the concept he shown past weekend are very strong, convincing and engaging in not OTT/flashy was, but more taken from his maturity and performer's ability.
 
Yes! Not too remarkable, sadly. We've got some sports newspapers talking about the "amazing comeback" he did after the SP. None talk about how he actually did the program (and those who did... I wonder if they actually watched it?)

I can add some of the media coverage he's had in the Autumn Classic so you can see with your own eyes just how bad is the media coverage of figure skating in this warm, sunny, Mediterranean country.
Just after the SP:
From "Marca": This one is just tragic. He basically praises Javi's SP to divine levels, grudgingly admits Hanyu was OK and adds "but he could use a bit more of facial expression", like ***. Talk about sore losers.
From "AS" and "Mundo Deportivo": Those two are basically the same: they praise Javi's SP and add that Hanyu won with a WR. They're simple. Mundo Deportivo uses a stock photo of Javi from 2015.
After the FP:
From "La Vanguardia": Now this is weird! A non-sports newspaper talking about Javi! Wow! Pity they don't say anything interesting. Just that he won after (as I said above) an amazing comeback, epically getting the upper hand from Yuzuru Hanyu. I swear they make it sound like he almost gets a WR. They also use a photo from 2015 (they liked that costume didn't it?)
From ABC: More or less the same as above. Now this one is a non-sports newspaper...and even an important one! And they used a video of the current competition and not Malagueña o Black Betty or w/e! Wow!!
From "Mundo deportivo": This one is just too funny. They are the same ones that put before the photo from 2015. Fortunately, they knew you don't use the same costume in the SP and in the FP, so they chose a different stock photo of Javi again. Like whaaat are you doing exactly :// . Text-wise it says the same thing: amazing comeback, blah blah blah.
From "Marca": The title is literally: "Knightly Comeback of Javier Fernández to win in the Autumn Classic". And the first paragraph is this jewel: "Like in the best Don Quixote's dream, Javier Fernández pulled of bravery to win the first season's challenge: the Autumn Classic, in an interesting conflict with the actual Olympic and World Champion, the Japanese Yuzuru Hanyu". And all the article has that lame epic tone. It's like reading straight out of one wannabe medieval tournament commentator. Yeah, I get it, you want to play with the Don Quixote theme... but just don't.

Now, the only two more or less interesting articles (they at least add some tidbits of Javi's interviews and programs) are from before the competition.
They're very similar and from the same sports newspaper, As. One is from the 8th September and the other one is from the 22th of September. They've probably extracted tidbits from interviews, maybe even in English, but given that I haven't seen them... Well. This is what Javi says about...
...Autumn Classic: "It's an opportunity to show the new programs and see what the public says about them." "We usually start in Japon, but we wanted to change. We wanted to be able to start in a competition in which we could show both the programs".
...Chaplin: "It's like an old aqueintance. I already did him a few years ago, but this season it's going to be very different, more related to the working world." "I have a special fondness for him, that's true". "I feel comfortable with him".
...Don Quixote: "The costume is really cool" (what a dork :P). "He's a universal character. It'd be good if people got to see and know him". About if he feels identified with him: "Yeah, it could be. I like the comparison. The part about looking for impossible dreams resonates with me. I like that idea."
...training: "You always want to do your best in training, but you also need to control that pressure and know that not everything is going to be perfect all the time. Handling that tension requires maturity".
...Olympics: "This time it's going to be different. I come with more experience and curriculum. However, it's true that there's a new generation of younger skaters pushing up, and everything is going to be pretty balanced"

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Look how happy he looks! You go Javi!!
I also love this photo because he's the only one who still has the same pose LOL

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Given what Javi himself has said about his FP I agree wholeheartedly with @NoNameFace that his program has a mix of "universal themes" (such as hope) and his own personal history. Wich, I admire a lot.
Someone said on the ACI thread that it was too mixed and difficult to understand, like many stuff thrown together with any sense whatsoever. I don't agree. I think it tells a complex story full of development, and I love it, and I hope we can see it develop in the next months. I want to analyze the choreography and drag the meaning out because I think I missed some stuff. And I'm looking forward to seeing that absolutely amazing step sequence at the end done as beautifully as he can!!

Sorry for the English btw! Not my first language.
Thank you so much for taking your time to collect and set out the links to Spanish media coverage. Although I cannot read Spanish, it means a lot to us Javie's fans. We cannot complain about this, can't we? Back a few seasons ago, I won't imagine there are so many Spainish media covering a Senior B event, this only happens because of the tremendous efforts made by Javier and his other teammates, and of course his outstanding accomplishments for bringing back world titles and European titles to his country.

Thanks again!
 
Thank you so much for taking your time to collect and set out the links to Spanish media coverage. Although I cannot read Spanish, it means a lot to us Javie's fans. We cannot complain about this, can't we? Back a few seasons ago, I won't imagine there are so many Spainish media covering a Senior B event, this only happens because of the tremendous efforts made by Javier and his other teammates, and of course his outstanding accomplishments for bringing back world titles and European titles to his country.

Thanks again!

You're super welcome! And you're also totally right. It's an accomplishment of his, and we should be thankful we get even that! I just feel sometimes bitter because sports coverage in Spain is 80% soccer 10% basket 9% cars and tennis 1% the rest of the sports.
Naw, I lied. They do talk about Javi, it usually goes this way: "And hey, we have more than soccer!! Nadal and Javier Fernández won X this season. Now let's talk some more about soccer." We can't even watch his programs for Spain, just in the Olympic season or online. I think that's going to change (hopefully) thanks to LaLiga, but that's been really recent. Most of the media coverage he gets is like one line after the weather section.
But the fact that there's that line about him after the weather section does mean a lot. I'm really glad we have it. I'm not a skater by any means, but I love the sport and it's been mostly thanks to him. And like me, many fans :P
I will say that he's a very private person. He never advertises where he's going, and since he hasn't got media following him, it's not easy to track him. That's why I was really surprised when I found this post. I appreciate his attitude, I find it humble and he's still super nice to his fans, but I'd also like to be able to know what does he put behind his programs in depth, and it isn't easy.


hi Mussique:), first of all - Your English is very good! Next - big, big thanks for providing Spanish coverage of ACI about Javier:thank:. I personally think that he really did not make things easy for him in terms of material this season - for me it's actually an attempt to reflect on the past while taking a step forward, it's definitely not staying in one place or trying to capitalize only on things/experience he already has. I appreciate having this more personal perspective in both his programs AND actually the fact that I was able to see it in his performances. Yes, technique/jumps were not maybe there yet as he would wish, but I think that the base and the concept he shown past weekend are very strong, convincing and engaging in not OTT/flashy was, but more taken from his maturity and performer's ability.

You're really welcome! Feel free to ask me for any translations I've missed.
I found super interesting his videos for LaLiga Sports where he talks about leaving Spain as a teenager to train. He didn't even have Internet. He was just... well, looking for a dream. The story of Don Quixote (which is old but gold) talks about a man who went "crazy" from reading and decided to become a knight in a knightless era. Javier decided to become a skater in a skater-less country. We only had like 7 rinks in Spain. Now we've doubled that number, so yes, we owe him a lot.
The thing is... I haven't seen the musical. But the original work of Don Quixote includes him recovering his identity/sanity after a dream. He's Alonso Quijano, not "Don Quijote". He apologizes to Sancho Panza for "dragging him along to the madness". Some interpretations say he dies of melancholy. Now, I don't think his program ends in death, not with him doing that "Don Quixote pirouette" with his hand on his chest and epic music (btw, anyone got the resemblance?), but there was definitely a sad note just before it, separated from the Dulcinea part, like a dream that reaches a climax and then ends.

Now I've made myself sad because I really don't want him to retire and so I don't want to see that thing in the program that could possibly talk about it.

...as I said, I want to analyze in depth the program later in the season because I think it's way deeper than what we usually find. It's like every move has a meaning behind it... I want to be able to drag it out.
 
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