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Rachel did just compete at that competition in Japan. Maybe she was just a little tired.
JGP # 7 - Chemnitz, GER
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Detailed protocols are out for both SP & LP. Rachael placed 2nd in the long, and over all. She had her 3R downgraded in the SP, and four triples (including both jumps in the 3/3) downgraded in the LP. That's rough. 
A gold & a silver still aren't too bad. It should be interesting at the JGP Final, to see Mirai & Rachael dueling it out. Both seem to be having increasing problems with fully rotating triples as the season progresses. Whoever that can fix the under-rotation will have an upper-hand in the final. But they will also have to watch out for the handful of other girls nipping at their heels!
Sarah Hecken won the LP and also overall. Anyone got videos of her?
A gold & a silver still aren't too bad. It should be interesting at the JGP Final, to see Mirai & Rachael dueling it out. Both seem to be having increasing problems with fully rotating triples as the season progresses. Whoever that can fix the under-rotation will have an upper-hand in the final. But they will also have to watch out for the handful of other girls nipping at their heels!
Sarah Hecken won the LP and also overall. Anyone got videos of her?
Hopefully a long break between now and the final will be good for both Flatt and Nagasu.
Congrats to Sarah Hecken - she's quite young and seems pretty promising. It's funny how unpredictable junior events are, she finished way out of the medal range in Vienna, which Flatt won, but she beat her here.
She, and Suizu, have 3toe-3toe combinations, and both had them ratified.
As for dance, these are the results so far:
Top 5 - CD - OD - Total
Gorshkova/Butikov 32,59 - 53,49 - 86,08
Riazonova/Guerreiro 29,40- 52,11 - 81,51
Agafonova/Dun 30,08 - 49,08 - 79,16
Chock/Zuerlin 30,27 - 47,77 - 78,04
Bosley/Corona 28,13 - 46,98 - 75,11
Gorshkova and Butikov have a pretty sizable lead, but the rest of the spots could switch...and the US could potentially be shut out of medals.
Congrats to Sarah Hecken - she's quite young and seems pretty promising. It's funny how unpredictable junior events are, she finished way out of the medal range in Vienna, which Flatt won, but she beat her here.
She, and Suizu, have 3toe-3toe combinations, and both had them ratified.
As for dance, these are the results so far:
Top 5 - CD - OD - Total
Gorshkova/Butikov 32,59 - 53,49 - 86,08
Riazonova/Guerreiro 29,40- 52,11 - 81,51
Agafonova/Dun 30,08 - 49,08 - 79,16
Chock/Zuerlin 30,27 - 47,77 - 78,04
Bosley/Corona 28,13 - 46,98 - 75,11
Gorshkova and Butikov have a pretty sizable lead, but the rest of the spots could switch...and the US could potentially be shut out of medals.
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Her mum keeps putting them up on her homepage:
http://www.sarah-hecken.de/pages/downloads.php
Tomorrow the once form the JGP will follow. Assuming mums hands weren't shaking to hard from excitement
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One little bit of info here.
Sarah sustained an injury in practice in Vienna which effected not only her skating but I tihnk her confidence as well. She was so annoyed about how she skated there that she has been training even harder and spend more time working on her spins, which she stills sees as a big weakness.Amazing though that she managed to win without even risking 3Lo, 3Lz and 3F which she has in practice.
Rachael Flatt was dinged heavily for underrotated jumps at this competition, but she is not known for underrotating, while Nagasu has a history of underrotated jumps.
I believe Rachael was simply exhausted because she tried to cram in two competitions a half a world apart in less than a week's time. She had to travel from Colorado to Japan, and then to Germany, and had no time to get over what had to have been horrendous jet lag.
Note that despite the technical deficiencies of her FS, she got the highest PCS score by almost 4 points.
Don't worry about her jumps. I'm sure she won't be making any heavy-duty travel plans before the JGPF in Poland in early December.
I believe Rachael was simply exhausted because she tried to cram in two competitions a half a world apart in less than a week's time. She had to travel from Colorado to Japan, and then to Germany, and had no time to get over what had to have been horrendous jet lag.
Note that despite the technical deficiencies of her FS, she got the highest PCS score by almost 4 points.
Don't worry about her jumps. I'm sure she won't be making any heavy-duty travel plans before the JGPF in Poland in early December.
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Flatt is not known for under-rotated jumps, except for that whole 3lz-3t incident in Spokane.
Looking at the protocols, it appears that the tech panel was heavy handed (almost embarrassingly so) to the extent that very few triples beyond sals and toes received credit as being rotated. And this hurt Rachael and Rumi (who unfortunately did not skate her LP near as well as last week in Japan) who had the more difficult jump content in their programs. The heavy handedness extended across the board...it affected many of the skaters, not just Flatt, but probably hurt her the most. I don't think it was all jet lag....perhaps more of a tech panel issue.
I would suspect that the experiences that Flatt has been through in the last two weeks will only make her more determined! Quite an education for a 15 year old!
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I just wanted to congratulate Sarah Hecken once more. I only realized this morning that she was the first german lady to win a JGP since the series started! 
For the US and Japan winning a JGP probably isn't unusual anymore
but in Germany that should make skating history! If you want to send her a little note too. Here is the link to the guestbook of her homepage http://www.sarah-hecken.de/pages/gaestebuch.php
and the victory ceremony photo with Rachel Flatt and Rumi Suizu can be seen here: http://www.sarah-hecken.de/pages/news.php
Arthur Gachinski is scheduled to the next JGP, he was schedule for this one but as a replacement and then he suddenly competed. Could his score for the next JGP will be counted or replace the score he got here?
I just think it was really dumb because in paper he could have won the next JGP and now he is very likely out of the JGPF
I just think it was really dumb because in paper he could have won the next JGP and now he is very likely out of the JGPF
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I believe to get to the Finals, a skater must accumulate enough point credits for two JGPs.
No, because skaters can only do 2 JGPs. Gachinski has been replaced in GBR by Daniil Gleichengauz(sp).
It does look like a rather dumb move in retrospect (if Gachinski doesn't qualify -- he's sitting in 8th place in the overall standings right now). I wonder whose decision it was?
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I agree that Gachinski's team made a fatal mistake by stacking Artur up against Mroz and Brezina. Mroz is a formidable opponent, and Brezina was fresh off a win at Nebelhorn. Artur's toughest competition in GBR would have been his own countryman, with a much lower total score in his last competiton, and Artur would have gone into that JGP as the high scorer.
Pushing a 14 year old in his first year in the JGP up against the toughest competition made no sense and probably cost him a spot in the Final.
I hope the change wasn't made because Artur was scheduled to appear in some Russian show this weekend.
Pushing a 14 year old in his first year in the JGP up against the toughest competition made no sense and probably cost him a spot in the Final.
I hope the change wasn't made because Artur was scheduled to appear in some Russian show this weekend.
Artur has a show this weekend?
What I did notice though is that who was originally scheduled for this event was Nikita, but suddenly he was out and Arthur in. Now what they have in common this two kids is that Mishin is their coach, but I don't count as dumb to not have seen the obvious that Arthur would have won the GBR JGP.
What I did notice though is that who was originally scheduled for this event was Nikita, but suddenly he was out and Arthur in. Now what they have in common this two kids is that Mishin is their coach, but I don't count as dumb to not have seen the obvious that Arthur would have won the GBR JGP.
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Well I only know that Gachinskiy is scheduled to do Cup the Nice the this week and the strangest thing is that he is on the roster for novice men 
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This is true.
I believe the top 9 skaters/pairs, point wise from the 8 jgp events are allowed into the final.
Sadly some skaters are only sent to 1 jpg and hence cant make it into the finals.
There was a discussion on russian board about it. I looked like Russian Federation didn't want to send Arthur with Artem Grigoriev together because they had both chance to make final - one boy would take points to another one at one competition. That is the reason why they sent Arthur to Chemnitz. I agree that wasn't good idea probably Federation didn't realise how strong field this JGP had. But finally nothing serious happened - Russian Federation did a tactical mistake but Mishin can be satisfied because Arthur is in final.
Arthur competed at Cup of Nice last week but in Juniors - he won with 162.61 total score beating his countryman Nikita Mikhailov.
