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- Dec 18, 2003
RGirl, Gezando and Hockeyfan...
I've REALLY enjoyed reading these posts.
RGirl - this seems very mundane after all of the deeper discussion - but...in answer to a question you asked early on: The technical caller determines the level of the elements for non-jumps, and the description of the jump performed. The judges determine the GOE.
ITA that Sasha has stagnated in many ways. I was trying to put my finger on it, but you described it perfectly. One of my big disappointments this year, which I think is an example reflecting what you are saying, is her WEAK attempt at a Biellmann spin. With all of Sasha's flexibility, line, and ability to do incredible an possibly innovative moves, would she do a craptacular Biellmann in her program? I can understand why other skaters who might be more limited, but CAN achieve a Biellmann position do it. I just don't understand Sasha going this route. This is just IMO one of the clear examples of what I think you are talking about. I'm very sad, because I've been right there with you waiting over the last few years for her to really "come together" with something brilliant - and I believe she has (had?) the talent to do. I don't think this is it. I would never rule her off the podium - she is still IMO a top international skater. I just don't think she's progressed and delivered what I think she is capable of.
Gezando, I don't know anything in detail about music. But I sure enjoy reading your posts about it!! I didn't realize there was so much....trying to think of the right word.....maybe "drama?" or "tongue in cheek?" or something like that where composers use other people's music in unusual ways. (i.e. reversing the notes, turning a revered religious chant into something sinister, etc.). Your post was a great read!!
Hockeyfan, once again your ring side observations are very interestings. Interesting that your description of Mao's 3A was very similar to RGirl's first hand observation of Kulik. This all makes me even hungrier to go see US Nats live for the first time to see these qualities in other skaters first hand.
I sure hope the ISU doesn't start making exceptions to it's own rules. (i.e. Mao and the age limit) My opinion has nothing to do with whether I think this (or any) rule is appropriate or not. If there is one thing I've learned that applies to most things in life - work, sport, relationships, etc. it's that making exceptions and changing things in the middle of the game usually has disasterous results in some form or other. You please one person or group at the expense of pissing off many other people and groups. Just not a good idea.
DG
I've REALLY enjoyed reading these posts.
RGirl - this seems very mundane after all of the deeper discussion - but...in answer to a question you asked early on: The technical caller determines the level of the elements for non-jumps, and the description of the jump performed. The judges determine the GOE.
ITA that Sasha has stagnated in many ways. I was trying to put my finger on it, but you described it perfectly. One of my big disappointments this year, which I think is an example reflecting what you are saying, is her WEAK attempt at a Biellmann spin. With all of Sasha's flexibility, line, and ability to do incredible an possibly innovative moves, would she do a craptacular Biellmann in her program? I can understand why other skaters who might be more limited, but CAN achieve a Biellmann position do it. I just don't understand Sasha going this route. This is just IMO one of the clear examples of what I think you are talking about. I'm very sad, because I've been right there with you waiting over the last few years for her to really "come together" with something brilliant - and I believe she has (had?) the talent to do. I don't think this is it. I would never rule her off the podium - she is still IMO a top international skater. I just don't think she's progressed and delivered what I think she is capable of.
Gezando, I don't know anything in detail about music. But I sure enjoy reading your posts about it!! I didn't realize there was so much....trying to think of the right word.....maybe "drama?" or "tongue in cheek?" or something like that where composers use other people's music in unusual ways. (i.e. reversing the notes, turning a revered religious chant into something sinister, etc.). Your post was a great read!!
Hockeyfan, once again your ring side observations are very interestings. Interesting that your description of Mao's 3A was very similar to RGirl's first hand observation of Kulik. This all makes me even hungrier to go see US Nats live for the first time to see these qualities in other skaters first hand.
I sure hope the ISU doesn't start making exceptions to it's own rules. (i.e. Mao and the age limit) My opinion has nothing to do with whether I think this (or any) rule is appropriate or not. If there is one thing I've learned that applies to most things in life - work, sport, relationships, etc. it's that making exceptions and changing things in the middle of the game usually has disasterous results in some form or other. You please one person or group at the expense of pissing off many other people and groups. Just not a good idea.
DG