Zijun was totally screwed by the judges in SP. All these dumb people thinking there is a conspiracy against her from her own federation when it is much more likely there is a conspiracy against her from the ISU judges. Maybe that's why the Fed subbed her because she'll just get robbed by the judges each time.
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I missed her skate and thought she totally messed up seeing the scores and placement. Watched the video and she looked quite good though I didn't know if there was any tech call. Then protocol shows one UR but negative GOE on her jumps and overall low TES and PCS scores. 
Now Zijun and China are in tough for the Olympic spots.
Now Zijun and China are in tough for the Olympic spots.
Oh Zijun
and she'll be first to skate at the FS :hopelessness: I really hope this will not be the last time we see her skate! I still have hope that 2 spots are possible, though the chance is small ... and I still think that there's a good chance that even with one spot, that Zijun will skate at the Olympics, just because Xiangning is going to be going through puberty starting approx. next season and since she's having UR issues even pre-puberty, I fear that she won't have an easy time adjusting to the body changes. Don't give up Zijun! And if it really is the last time we see you skate, then skate your heart out at the FS! Your music portrays the pain that comes with love, and you can show all the pain and hard training you've endured for your passion that is figure skating in the FS on Friday. Looking forward to the FS :luv17: and even though the sp didn't score very high, I'm going to rewatch it again as it was a very good skate!
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The best and only thing for Zijun to do now is to focus on her LP, forgetting everything else. She needs to show herself, the judges, and her fed what she's capable of and then continue to be the best she can be. I don't know how she may improve her PCS except to show more energy and attack in her performance.
The only way for her to compete at the Olympics is to be the best Lady from China and she has to consistently focus on that with no distractions.
I look forward to seeing her show her fierce determination in her free skate on Saturday.
The only way for her to compete at the Olympics is to be the best Lady from China and she has to consistently focus on that with no distractions.
I look forward to seeing her show her fierce determination in her free skate on Saturday.
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I missed her skate and thought she totally messed up seeing the scores and placement. Watched the video and she looked quite good though I didn't know if there was any tech call. Then protocol shows one UR but negative GOE on her jumps and overall low TES and PCS scores.
Now Zijun and China are in tough for the Olympic spots.
I thought the same too. So, when I did get a chance to see her FS, I was amazed how she looked comparatively faster too, when compared to her past performances this season. I'm wishing judges hell for even contemplating, let alone executing, a <50 PCS. :dev2:
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Conspiracy or not, her chronic underscoring by the judges does put the Chinese fed in a quandary.
Really does anyone have any solution to this?
train with Orser as her main coach. His skaters gets good pcs because they have a whole village there: a team for SS, connections to judges and commentators as wells as choreographers, and there's a technical team at Toronto that will help her with her lutz issues.
If that's possible or not, I don't know. But if she gets the chance to train there, she should go. That's the only solution I can think of.
Of course if the reason for the pcs drop was due to some nasty rumor or conspiracy and if she can proof that those rumors/the conspiracy were true, she should think about the possibility of speaking out and clearing her name...
But if she can't proof anything I don't know if speaking out or not makes it better...
But if she can't proof anything I don't know if speaking out or not makes it better...
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Everything was written on her face in the k&c after her SP scores were announced. She looked so disappointed and sad. Poor Zijun.
To train with Orser wouldn't be a bad idea for her, but TCC is quite crowded now and I don't think the Chinese fed would approve it either...
To train with Orser wouldn't be a bad idea for her, but TCC is quite crowded now and I don't think the Chinese fed would approve it either...
@yyyskate: thanks 
Yes, I am not sure whether her fed would approve her moving there full time and have brian as her main coach either. They could be very supportive or totally against that idea, I don't know. But whether they approve or not, I think if she gets the chance to train there, she should go. Because what else are her options? If the fed doesn't want her to go but can't/ won't raise her pcs/ clear her name, then I doubt that next season will be better in terms of pcs... she can train hard and presevere, but what if preseverence doesn't change anything? But I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes, maybe preseverencewill win her favors in the fed or maybe the fed has been protecting her all along. Hard to suggest a reasonable solution if you don't know whats going wrong ...
Yes, I am not sure whether her fed would approve her moving there full time and have brian as her main coach either. They could be very supportive or totally against that idea, I don't know. But whether they approve or not, I think if she gets the chance to train there, she should go. Because what else are her options? If the fed doesn't want her to go but can't/ won't raise her pcs/ clear her name, then I doubt that next season will be better in terms of pcs... she can train hard and presevere, but what if preseverence doesn't change anything? But I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes, maybe preseverencewill win her favors in the fed or maybe the fed has been protecting her all along. Hard to suggest a reasonable solution if you don't know whats going wrong ...
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One thing to improve her scores that's within her power is to power up. Get some muscles and speed. Also pick music that judges can understand and resonate with.
Her leverage with the fed has been weakened. They have gone along with her choice of coaches before but how much will they continue to invest in her as of now? Zijun and her fed have to sit down for serious planning and cooperation for her to have a future.
Focus on doing your best and what's best for you, Zijun. Don't bother with others and things you can't control.
Her leverage with the fed has been weakened. They have gone along with her choice of coaches before but how much will they continue to invest in her as of now? Zijun and her fed have to sit down for serious planning and cooperation for her to have a future.
Focus on doing your best and what's best for you, Zijun. Don't bother with others and things you can't control.
Zijun just posted this video on her Instagram^^:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BSbExjiFghw/?taken-by=lizijunn
Also I saw a video on twitter where she thanked her fans, but I can't find it right now
@Eclair, I posted the msg for you, purely from a figure skating perspective. because I kinda agree with your choice. I think the strength of Team BO is exactly Zijun's weakness. such as SS, choreo, lutz, power training (Canadian ladies looks like the exact opposite of Zijun in this aspect). Also Zijun's PCS will increase not only because of Team BO's name. but their choreo is packed with meaningful transitions and really calling for high PCS (e.g. just look at Elizavet).
Is it doable, I donot know.
Also, Zijun seems not against training abroad, on the contrary, she likes training abroad, her relationship with foreign coaches such as Lori, Mishin are all very good. The only coach she does not like is Mingzhu Li as publicly known, yet they still parted ways amicably and on good terms. Also, zijun's English is pretty good. she is one of the Chinese skaters that has trained the longest abroad. and she is quite independent at well.
Megan posted a banquet photo with zijun said something like "free", seems indicating something. could check it out.
Is it doable, I donot know.
Also, Zijun seems not against training abroad, on the contrary, she likes training abroad, her relationship with foreign coaches such as Lori, Mishin are all very good. The only coach she does not like is Mingzhu Li as publicly known, yet they still parted ways amicably and on good terms. Also, zijun's English is pretty good. she is one of the Chinese skaters that has trained the longest abroad. and she is quite independent at well.
Megan posted a banquet photo with zijun said something like "free", seems indicating something. could check it out.
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What do you guys mean saying Zijun is not supported by the Chinese fed? She is the only competitive female single skater China has, well, till Xiangning Li placed better than her at Worlds.
As everyone said here, she needs more power, better choreography. Her power issue has been there for several years, and the LP music choice this year is the worst among her competitive skating programs. Nothing is wrong with non-Western music (anime music has been quite successful; Hanyu's new age; even Nahyun Kim's Martial arts movie choice was received quite well). Since she picked the music herself, Lori is not to blame.
If you compare Xingning Li with Zijun, I honestly think the only advantage of Zijun is her long line and princess-type & more mature appearance. What I like about Xingning is her strong ss at a young age. Zijun used to excel at tes with 3f-3t and 2a-3t, but now so many ladies have both. It is just a tough field to compete now.
As everyone said here, she needs more power, better choreography. Her power issue has been there for several years, and the LP music choice this year is the worst among her competitive skating programs. Nothing is wrong with non-Western music (anime music has been quite successful; Hanyu's new age; even Nahyun Kim's Martial arts movie choice was received quite well). Since she picked the music herself, Lori is not to blame.
If you compare Xingning Li with Zijun, I honestly think the only advantage of Zijun is her long line and princess-type & more mature appearance. What I like about Xingning is her strong ss at a young age. Zijun used to excel at tes with 3f-3t and 2a-3t, but now so many ladies have both. It is just a tough field to compete now.
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