Men Competiton

[Nadine]

Shaba22, you already know the results? I would have given it to the kid imho. He was better than Zhenya. It pains me to say so but it's the truth. Evgeni needs more time to heal, but he is after all a legend, and not just in Russia, rather in the entire history of figure skating. I bow down to this.

 

[seniorita]

Plushenko interview:

he is very happy. it was incredibly hard for him, mentally, as he's competing after so long and still recovering from his knee thing ...... there is still a lot to improve and he will continue to work on his program. and he's very grateful for the support

Dimitriev trains with who now?

 

[ciocio]

he trains with Elena Buyanova

 

[Nadine]

PS: when you're competing against a LEGEND, it's *not* good enough to match him jump for jump, you need to kick his a**. Same thing with Michelle Kwan at Nationals, no one, and I mean no one stepped up to the plate and totally blew her away. One has to go above & beyond when one is competing against a legend. Jmho.

 

[Nadine]

Hey, aren't they going to show the last group? I wanted to see Menshov, et al skate...

But all I see is interviews.

 

[Bartek]

PS: when you're competing against a LEGEND, it's *not* good enough to match him jump for jump, you need to kick his a**. Same thing with Michelle Kwan at Nationals, no one, and I mean no one stepped up to the plate and totally blew her away. One has to go above & beyond when one is competing against a legend. Jmho.

Yes but Sasha was able to beat that legend many times in the SP without really going above and beyond. It was due to her inconsistency in the FS that she lways lost in the end. Here Atrhur skated very well, had better program and still lost. I'm very enthusiastic about Zhenya's return but IMO Arthur sould've won the SP by a small margin.

 

[seniorita]

They have zamboni I think.

 

[Violet Bliss]

Why the criticism on Plush's program? He scored 8.61 for Transitions and his 9.32 for Choreography is higher than anybody's this season, maybe ever.

 

[ciocio]

Why the criticism on Plush's program? He scored 8.61 for Transitions and his 9.32 for Choreography is higher than anybody's this season, maybe ever.

He was very overscored, that's why. The score is a joke. He won't get this score in an international competion, I'm 100% sure about it.

 

[Shaba22]

Zhan Bush about to come...

 

[Nadine]

I repeat, when one is skating against a legend of Evgeni Plushenko's caliber, his history, records, titles, firsts, et al, one needs to kick his booty. And Artur didn't do that here. The top 2 skated clean, matching each other quad for quad, jump for jump. Also, Zhenya did a 3L versus Artur's 3R. Therefore, I would have given Zhenya the edge on TES, but give Artur the edge on PCS.

That said, the competition is not over yet, lol, there is still the LP to go, and anything can happen. And the almost 5 pt. lead Zhenya has over Artur is not insurmountable. It will be close.

Russian Nationals loves Evgeni and vice versa. I have no quibble, there is still the LP to go.

LET'S GO TO WAR!

 

[seniorita]

^Of course he was, it is russian nationals, you know how the scores go. Last time he got 100++ for the sp, there is an improvement with 88. For his condition is too high, but he wont go international this season anyway.

Why the criticism on Plush's program? He scored 8.61 for Transitions and his 9.32 for Choreography is higher than anybody's this season, maybe ever.

Plushenko isnt a threat to the top skaters right now whatever score he gets in the nationals. DONT worry. And they have bonus marks for quads I think in RN.

And these are the marks for skating while being platinum.

 

[Shaba22]

Bush:
4T-3T
3A - turn-out
3Lz

 

[ciocio]

^Of course he was, it is russian nationals, you know how the scores go. Last time he got 100++ for the sp, there is an improvement with 88. For his condition is too high, but he wont go international this season anyway.

Yeah but Artur was robbed and it's not fair!!!

 

[seniorita]

No its not fair. I see the diference in pcs. I m just not that surprised
Anyway Bush rocked it!
I m waiting for the skater from grand prix junior!

 

[daphna]

i love Plushenko so much, i don't mind if he skates on his *** and win. this wasn't his best, but it was quite good for someone who came back after 2 years. hopefully he'll build from here and win everything this year.

 

[sky_fly20]

^^

u mean maxim kovtun ? hes done skating

he butchered his 3axel, he attempted a quad too right ?
and fell off twice. he's in like 9th place :disapp:

 

[Nadine]

Even I would not go so far as saying robbed, lol. Seriously, it's not like Evgeni mopped up the floor falling all over the ice and was placed 1st over someone that skated clean. They *both* skated clean. And as seniorita points out, RN gives bonus points for doing a quad, which Evgeni did so successfully. His jump content is of the highest caliber and RN recognizes this, not only for him, but for ALL skaters that do a quad. But that's not enough, speed, line, command of the ice, edging, being able to skate full out through beginning to end, spins, et al, matters. The whole thing.

Anyhow, that's my last post on the subject.

Back to RN and the SP. Looking forward to seeing Menshov.

 

[seniorita]

You mean the skater with the name in results КОВТУН?

 

[sky_fly20]

^ yes,