Russian Senior Test Skates 2022

[Baron Vladimir]

The problem is The World Outside of Russia automatically thinks she's guilty. Russia automatically thinks she's not guilty. In this climate, it's going to read as a big "F U!" to the rest of the world because Russians believe she's innocent and set up by the evil west in some way.

I would like to believe this program is just about her, but there's no way the coaches etc wouldn't be able to predict this is not going to go over well on international social media at all. But like I said, I think they don't care because they're banned anyway, so might as well do it now.

Even in a hypothetical perfect situation: they're not banned and Kamila is proved innocent, I don't think this program would play well with international audiences. Why? Who was tormenting Kamila while she was "guilty"? That would be Western media. Is it a good idea to rub that in a Western audiences' face? It would be a very awkward and uncomfortable program to watch for Western audiences because they're the "bad guy" in this program.

This is a 100% Russian-only program because Kamila has become the symbol for Western powers trying to crush Russian greatness.

I think Russia skaters are great and they're still my favs, including Kamila. I don't even hate this program, I can tell it's her raw emotions and I have sympathy for that. But it still has dual-meaning in the overall situation we're currently in.

Well, i'm a 'western audience' and i find it interesting as a theme. If you don't jump to symbolize things, or put it in a 'black or white' category, it is just that, a skating programme about skaters personal life (I can see why some may find the theme controversial, but i guess i like controversial, or anything 'out of the box' )

 

[alexocfp]

The problem is The World Outside of Russia automatically thinks she's guilty. Russia automatically thinks she's not guilty. In this climate, it's going to read as a big "F U!" to the rest of the world because Russians believe she's innocent and set up by the evil west in some way.

I would like to believe this program is just about her, but there's no way the coaches etc wouldn't be able to predict this is not going to go over well on international social media at all. But like I said, I think they don't care because they're banned anyway, so might as well do it now.

Even in a hypothetical perfect situation: they're not banned and Kamila is proved innocent, I don't think this program would play well with international audiences. Why? Who was tormenting Kamila while she was "guilty"? That would be Western media. Is it a good idea to rub that in a Western audiences' face? It would be a very awkward and uncomfortable program to watch for Western audiences because they're the "bad guy" in this program.

This is a 100% Russian-only program because Kamila has become the symbol for Western powers trying to crush Russian greatness.

I think Russia skaters are great and they're still my favs, including Kamila. I don't even hate this program, I can tell it's her raw emotions and I have sympathy for that. But it still has dual-meaning in the overall situation we're currently in.

Whatever the hidden or not so hidden meanings behind it, the biggest positive out of this is that it got people talking.

This is very reminiscent of a pro wrestling standard where you take a real life event and turn it into an angle.

It took what would otherwise be a non scoring event and made it into a talking and debating point.

 

[YuBluByMe]

On the most part, I thought most of the short and free programs were mediocre and unmemorable. Petrosian was the only skater in which I liked both programs. Then there’s Muravieva. In her case, she’s just able to sell. It’s her that’s good, not the programs.

 

[Vladik]

On the most part, I thought most of the short and free programs were mediocre and unmemorable. Petrosian was the only skater in which I liked both programs. Then there’s Muravieva. In her case, she’s just able to sell. It’s her that’s good, not the programs.

I think Kamila's program today was somewhat memorable. Whether that is down to the actual program itself or the controversy and impact it has caused however, I am not sure. I myself, did think it was a beautiful program though.

 

[alexocfp]

Well, i'm a 'western audience' and i find it interesting as a theme. If you don't jump to symbolize things, or put it in a 'black or white' category, it is just that, a skating programme about skaters personal life.

I’m certainly western audience and my reaction when I heard the voiceovers to begin was, ah this is gonna be good….

And it resonates because you are using real life drama in your program.

 

[YuBluByMe]

I think Kamila's program today was somewhat memorable. Whether that is down to the actual program itself or the controversy and impact it has caused however, I am not sure. I myself, did think it was a beautiful program though.

It’s because of the controversy - so it’s for the wrong reasons. Even on this very thread, very few are talking about the actual skate. I already forgot most of it. I only remember the final pose and the half Biellman move she does in the choreo sequence.

 

[LadyB]

Time for my wonderful pairs...and super gorgeous Fedya!

 

[gsk8]

This is a "competition thread" - Stick to the skating folks - not the doping issue, psychology, coach bashing, etc.

If you want to discuss Kamila's program - feel free to create a new thread.

 

[LadyB]

Karina lookssuper hot - can't wait for A/R's performance.

What's with the Ave Maria craze ? Why?
Although I found T/M's version yesterday more than acceptable.

 

[Cherub721]

Another Ave Maria!

That was tough to watch but at least it's not a competition.

 

[EdgeCall]

Ahhh, I thought they would try this foot cradle thing, but they aborted.

 

[Baron Vladimir]

I think i wouldn't concentrate properly to skate a programme while I can see random snippets of me on a big screen as my background

 

[LadyB]

Den the man!!! What a lovely lad!

 

[Baron Vladimir]

So no new programme for P/K, but that one was great last season

 

[EdgeCall]

Denis needs a better costume. Apart from that I'm thrilled that they retained this program.

 

[LadyB]

Brilliant ending pose. That was lovely! Onwards and upwards, guys! Molodtsy!

 

[Cherub721]

I love this program and it was a good choice keeping it but it looks very unpolished for the second season. I am not sure why they and Betina were so emotional at the end. Is he injured or ill?

 

[LadyB]

Den's so cute!

 

[LadyB]

I'm really into Team Sliusarenko - and Bryukhanov looks like he's related to Artem Kovalev.

 

[Baron Vladimir]

Interesting choice of music