Those were the days, in retrospect, with all 4 ladies (including Michelle) all able to do their parts to secure the spots for the next year.
If memory serves me right, Nicks said she did it on purpose, that she was set on a different combo spin than was planned, and that she went ahead and did it even though he said right before her skate do not do it. I wish I remembered where I saw it, pretty sure it was online somewhere, and as she came off the ice, you could tell Nicks was not happy and let her have it. She was visibly upset. I remember it coming up again in an interview with him as one of his examples how you can't tell Sasha what to do.
^^^Most definitely so! He fired up his PR press and got her media attention by painting the picture his prodigy was deviating from the stereotypical ice princess/American Sweetheart as a way to set her apart. Definitely made for interesting reading!
There are no more "eras" or "waiting your turn" in skating. Like it or not, we are under CoP. All that matters to judges are points.
As i've said time and again - Sasha appears to be a very fiesty skater. I always wished she'd skated to something strong, different and definitely not "ice princessy". Even just an SP, so that we could see a a different side (one that i reckon would be closer to her real personality).
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RD - In the scheme of things, a GOLD medal (meissner) was enough to allow the USFS to send 3 skters the following year.That's what I meant
8+3=11
1+8=9
1+3=4
4 < 9 < 11 < 13 so all scenarios would have us 3 spots for '07
RD - In the scheme of things, a GOLD medal (meissner) was enough to allow the USFS to send 3 skters the following year.
Are you joking? Have you seen how the judges use GOE and PCS to put the skaters where they want?
Uh... no? How about rarely? The majority of wuzrobbed moments were caused by idiotically inflated deductions for edge and rotation. I'm sure some were caused by deliberate number fudging, but good luck trying to prove it. People whining on the forums isn't proof... it's just a given, under any system.
that easy to discern but what about the names of these judges and their ethnic backgrounds?If you took a really close look at the protocols you would see how the numbers game is played. Judge A likes skater A and gives that skater HUGE PCS scores and lots of +GOE, while giving skater B, A's closest rival, MUCH lower PCS scores and lots of 0 and -GOE. Judge B does the same, while judge C does the opposite, and gives Skater B HUGE PCS scores and lots of +GOE, while giving the low PCS scores and -GOE to Skater A.
Look at the JGP protocols,and you will be able to identify the judges and the countries which they represent.
Not sure, myself. Have read somewhere in this time of austerity instead of using 11judges and droping high and low, they also reduced the number to an outright 7. Hope someone can give exact number of judges the competitions will be using.Just to refresh my memory-they do drop the highest and lowest number from the average right?
Thank you Chuckum. WoW!! I was thinking of 7 but only 5. It may be in the interest of fairness. Hope so. I'll bring this infor to LA with me and check on delivery.There are only 9 judges on ISU Championship panels now (there used to be 12). Random selection is applied, dropping two scores, and then the highest and lowest scores are dropped. So in the end, only 5 of the 9 judges decide who the winner will be.
Here are the WORLDS panels by country:
MEN
SP: AUS AUT BUL CHN MEX POL ROU ESP SWE
FS: BEL CZE GER ISR plus 5 judges drawn from the SP judges
LADIES
SP: AUS TPE FRA HUN ITA LTU MEX ESP SUI
FS: POL SVK UKR UZB plus 5 judges drawn from the SP judges
PAIRS
SP: CHN GER GRE ITA POL RUS UKR USA UZB
FS: CAN FRA GBR ISR plus 5 judges drawn from the SP judges
ICE DANCE
CD: AUT CAN CZE EST FRA HUN ISR POL ROU
OD: AUS BUL GER JPN plus 5 judges drawn from the CD judges
FD: AUS BUL GER JPN plus 5 judges drawn from the CD judges
Those Worlds panels don't look too bad.
Dance looks good too. CZE, EST, HUN, POL, ROU and BUL are so different countries these days, all of them in the European Union - and the Russians aren't even on the panel. I am somehow happy that the Russians aren't on the panel and that the Canadians are: it makes me less afraid of "Virtue / Moir got robbed" in the case of a Khokhlova / Novitsky win. Didn't Tarasova say that Domnina / Shabalin only skate if their Russian judge is on the panel? Hmm, a withdrawel wouldn't be a loss at all IMO.
Pairs is a bit weird though. In the other panels you only have one or two judges with a top favourite in the competition: in Dance there is a Canadian judge, for the Ladies you get the Italian judge. But in Pairs they somehow got a judge from every country with a top favourite: China, Germany, (Ukraine), (Russia), USA and Canada. How did that happen?
Thank you Chuckum. WoW!! I was thinking of 7 but only 5. It may be in the interest of fairness. Hope so. I'll bring this infor to LA with me and check on delivery.
It seems none of the 6 top Countries are judging the Mens. This is nice for V.D.Perren and T.Verna.
Only France is a top country for the Ladies. However, there are 4 Slavic countries in the LP which could give a little boost to Leonova for a top 10 finish. (not calling any conspiracy. Just a sentimental boost from the heart.)
Pairs are the battle fields for judging. China, Russia, USA as well as Germany all with podium seeking Pairs entrants in the SP. The LP covers Canada and France. Keep it clean, guys
Ice Dance. Very limited in top countries which may not even make all three sectors.
Didn't Tarasova once say that there is only one place that is important, and that is First Place? It was a repeat what her father (great hockey player) told her.There IS a Russian judge on the panel, not a Roumanian judge (my mistake). But RUS is only on the CD for sure. There's no guarantee he/she will draw in to the OD and/or FD panels. Does that mean DomShabs would WD if there was no RUS on the OD or FD panel? Seems to me Tarasova is saying outright that the RUS judge will judge based only on country of origin, not on performance. In that case, I would hope there would be no RUS judge on the OD and FD.