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Will the Chan/Hanyu Olympic battle match the epic scale of the 'Battle of the Brians'?

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Will the Chan/Hanyu Olympic battle match the epic scale of the 'Battle of the Brians'?

The 1988 Olympics did not just feature the famous 'Battle of the Carmens' between Katarina Witt and Debi Thomas. It also featured the almost equally famous 'Battle of the Brians'. The background to this contest was that Brian Orser was the reigning world champion, and Brian Boitano was his closest rival (and 1986 world champion). Going into the Olympics, the two Brian's had competed against each other 10 times, with Orser holding a 7-3 lead. At the 1988 Olympics, Fadeev led after the compulsories, with Boitano 2nd and Orser 3rd. However, Orser won the short program, beating Boitano into 2nd. Nevertheless, Boitano held a narrow lead over Orser overall going into the long program, but as it was so slender, whoever finished ahead between them in the FS would win the Gold. Ultimately, Boitano won the free skate by 5 judges to 4, and the Olympic Gold Medal. Orser (skating to Dmitri Shostakovich's "The Bolt") double footed and then stepped out of the landing on his 3F and doubled out on a 3A (ironic, as he was known as 'Mr Triple Axel' as it was his trademark jump. Boitano's trademark jump was one he had invented - the 'Tano Triple Lutz', a Triple Lutz with one arm raised above the head), and that cost him the title. Boitano (skating to music from Carmine Coppola's 'Napoleon') had skated clean (apart from a very slightly double footed landing on a 3A), landing 8 triples, 2 of them 3A's. It should be noted, however, that of the 9 Judges, 4 of them made Orser the clear winner of the LP, whilst 3 of them made Boitano the clear winner. The other 2 Judges (from Denmark and Switzerland) had them tied. However, the tiebreaker was the technical mark, and both of the Judges had given higher technical merit marks to Boitano. Hence, the reason why Boitano won by 5 Judges to 4. The irony of all this is, that this was the last Olympics at which the technical mark was the tiebreaker. Subsequently, the artistic impression mark was used as the tiebreaker. Had that been the case in these Olympics, then Orser would have won the FS by 6 Judges to 3, and won the Gold medal. Hence, an epic contest won by the slenderest of margins

Can Patrick Chan and Yuzuru Hanyu match the epic scale of the 'Battle of the Brians'? For a long time now, Patrick has been the favourite for the Olympic title. However, at the recent GPF, Hanyu demonstrated by winning the FS and the overall title that he can now match Chan. Hence, if both skate clean and near to their best, it is going to be really close. Moreover, what would be the 'icing on the cake' as it were in terms of making this one of the greatest ever contests, is if one or both of them could finally break through the 300 mark barrier for the combined score, the 200 mark barrier for the FS, and the 100 mark barrier for the SP. If they both managed all that, then it would certainly make for one almighty competition.

Patrick Chan's personal bests are: Combined Total = 295.27 (World Record), Free Skate = 196.75 (World Record), Short Program = 98.52

Yuzuru Hanyu's personal bests are: Combined Total = 293.25, Free Skate = 193.41, Short Program = 99.84 (World Record)

Hence, Chan and Hanyu are very closely matched and neither can afford to make mistakes at the Olympics. New world records look highly likely and a 300+ combined score looks on the cards. I think they will push each other very close.
 
The battle of the Brian's was a lot of media hype, but I think they were more matched than Patrick and Yuzuru. Same first name, closer in age and experience, both North American, both having soldier-type costumes for their LP's. Orser was kind of neatly branded as the performer while Boitano was the technician. Although Patrick and Yuzu are both ethnically Asian, there's a world of difference between them so it doesn't comes across the same way. Patrick's skating skills are hands down unmatched with better posture but there isn't a consensus regarding his presentation/artistry. Yuzu's jumps are gorgeous when he nails them and his transitions are crazy, but as much as I love him I think he's still rough although he has had a boost in PCS as of late. I do agree that it will be an exciting matchup. Just wish that more than one gold medal could be awarded.
 
Recent article entitled: "Canadian figure skating great Elvis Stojko says Chan faces a serious battle in Sochi". Reads:-

While Stojko is impressed with what Chan has done since the Olympics — winning three world titles and adding two quads to his long program — Stojko probably will take some flak for suggesting on Thursday that Chan’s Japanese rival, Yuzuru Hanyu, will be the man to beat at next month’s Sochi Olympics — even though Chan has won the last three world titles.

“Hanyu’s been at the top of his game,” said Stojko.

“There’s an excitement level with Hanyu because he’s got that unpredictability and that freshness to it. But then you have the maturity of Chan. It’s going to come down to component scores,” said Stojko.

“Patrick has the experience under his belt. He has an Olympics under his belt, the three-time world champion, he’s going to have to stay focused and not allow the pressure to settle on him.”

Stojko said the gold in Sochi may come down to the fact that the top Japanese men, including Hanyu, all have two quads and two triple Axels in their long program, while Chan has two quads and one triple Axel at this point.

“That could be a difference-maker right there, depending on where (Hanyu) is doing the Axels in the program,” said Stojko. “If he does them, Patrick will need everything in his arsenal. A lot of guys are pushing either three quads, one Axel or two Axels and two quads. That’s the kicker. When you’re doing one Axel and two quads, you’re there, you’ve got components scores, but some of the other guys can catch you if they’ve got the other stuff — especially at the halfway point. That will be a big difference.”
 
I have to say I don't put much credence into anything Elvis Stojko says anymore - no matter what the context. He's still hung up on quads being the be-all and end-all and thinking under the 6.0 regime. It's just his opinion and there are alot of them out there (including mine - tee! hee!)

But Hanyu and Chan are nowhere near the "Battle of the Brians!" IMO, of course!
 
No, they didn't have enough time to build the rivalry... Orser and Boitano have been more or less on par for an entire quadriennal before the 88 Olympics, while Yuzuru has become a serious contender for a gold medal only this year... (even though he has been a medal contender since the 2011-2012 season)
 
I'm in the minority, I'm sure, but I'm hoping for a breakout performance by someone... almost anyone... not mentioned in the thread title.

I'm just not a fan of either of them, although I acknowledge they are the favorites, and deservedly so.

I also agree with the point about the Brians duking it out over the entire quad... Chan/Hanyu matchup just doesn't have the longevity.
 
Easy answer: NO. Because they don't have the same first name! ;)

To give a -hopefully- more substantiated answer: Back then, they were the 2 favorites (86: Boitano won, Orser 2nd; 87: Orser won, Boitano 2nd), and in those days, for an "underdog" to sneak in and beat one or both of them, they would have had to have what would now be considered an "epic meltdown". Skating a bit better wouldn't have been enough to get the marks to beat them. That's why it was so easily marketeable as the Battle of the Brians.
Nowadays, there are enough skaters around who, if clean, will overtake any one of the 2 - or both - if he/they make significant mistakes. So it just wouldn't be accurate to market the Men's event as a battle between those 2 only.
 
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