Yulia Lipnitskaya

[solani]

Great interview! 3Lz-3T, 3L-3T and 2A-1L-3S would be very ambitious. Good to hear that she really wants to get physically stronger. She'll have less problems with her body weight when she has more muscles.

 

[sjid]

I think this would be the season to re-use her FS, she's only used it twice in Top-level international competitions, Skate America. And re-using the long program would give her and Alexei more time to work on her technique.

I hope for this. Yulia prefers beautiful, lyrical, dramatic music with sharp contrasts in mood. Leningrad is the best yet, and it has a sophisticated structure rarely found in popular music. In the test skate, America and Finland, Yulia skillfully balanced notes, emotion and structure. She performed with the subtlety of a trained artist. There is more for her to discover and express in this complex and moving composition, especially as she improves technically. I doubt the figure skating world will see a program like this again.

 

[sjid]

One of the things that really surprised me in this interview was that Yulia said when she as training under Eteri they only did choreo with the group and all the physical training had to be done by each athlete on their own. In Sochi it is basically vice versa. Also she said that her muscle core was very weak when she started to work in Sochi and that her legs are really weak too. I just started to wonder how she even skated without proper physical training, most athletes do not last long if they can't handle difficult content programs.

This could explain a lot of what we saw. Injuries, no sensation in legs, weakness in second half of FS programs, etc. And doing choreo with the group?

 

[turquoiseblue]

That's an amazingly interesting interview! :agree: (sorry that I have literally no time to translate now...:scowl

EDIT: some extracts from it are already translated here - http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/ind...sia-with-love-22-winter-2015-16.97406/page-30

there's the translation
http://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/ind...i-didnt-know-how-to-go-on-with-my-life.98194/

Thanks for the links!

I love her personality and I can't stop admiring her
Keep going, Yulia!!! I'm rooting for you!

 

[coldblueeyes]

I am so moved by her interview. You can see how she suffered in the last two years and how difficult her comeback has been. The fact that she is already working in those new combos, including a loop combo and a three-jump with axel and salchow, wow, I just want Fall to come.

And what about skating for more eight years? God, she's teasing us.

 

[Amei]

One of the things that really surprised me in this interview was that Yulia said when she as training under Eteri they only did choreo with the group and all the physical training had to be done by each athlete on their own. In Sochi it is basically vice versa. Also she said that her muscle core was very weak when she started to work in Sochi and that her legs are really weak too. I just started to wonder how she even skated without proper physical training, most athletes do not last long if they can't handle difficult content programs.

Her comments about the training in Eteri's group are pretty shocking...Eteri deals mainly with students that are kids/young teens, without proper guidance on physical training they are going to be more subject to injury and it's easier to not train as hard if you have you are responsible for your training vs. something structured with a coach/instructor with you that is going to push you.

 

[Caustica]

Wow, that's the first time I've seen clear confirmation that Evgenia's programme was meant for Yulia. I mean, there has been a lot of speculation, but she just said it outright.

Also, that's the first time I've seen confirmation of the atmosphere inside Eteri's group.

Best of luck to Yulia. It seems like she has such a good attitude towards what she's doing/her life now.

 

[Sorrento]

Wow, that's the first time I've seen clear confirmation that Evgenia's programme was meant for Yulia. I mean, there has been a lot of speculation, but she just said it outright.

Also, that's the first time I've seen confirmation of the atmosphere inside Eteri's group.

Best of luck to Yulia. It seems like she has such a good attitude towards what she's doing/her life now.

There was an interview with the choreographer Ilia Averbukh who created this program- he clearly stated that that LP choreo was done for Yulia.

 

[Caustica]

There was an interview with the choreographer Ilia Averbukh who created this program- he clearly stated that that LP choreo was done for Yulia.

Well, I hadn't seen that. I don't really manage to follow everything. I'd just remembered that Yulia had rejected a programme sometime in the past and Averbukh got annoyed.

 

[Sorrento]

Well, I hadn't seen that. I don't really manage to follow everything. I'd just remembered that Yulia had rejected a programme sometime in the past and Averbukh got annoyed.

I can get his feelings. I mean he doesn't do tons of choreos for competitions so that piece was special for him. But I also can get the Yulia's hate towards the music piece, if you can't stand hearing it all over and over again then it could be a nightmare to skate to it.

 

[Meoima]

One of the things that really surprised me in this interview was that Yulia said when she was training under Eteri they only did choreo with the group and all the physical training had to be done by each athlete on their own. In Sochi it is basically vice versa. Also she said that her muscle core was very weak when she started to work in Sochi and that her legs are really weak too. I just started to wonder how she even skated without proper physical training, most athletes do not last long if they can't handle difficult content programs.

I think the "only choreography training" strategy only works for prepubescent skaters. When puberty hit them and their bodies start changing, they need proper physical training. I think Urmanov' approach is right in this case.

 

[Caustica]

I can get his feelings. I mean he doesn't do tons of choreos for competitions so that piece was special for him. But I also can get the Yulia's hate towards the music piece, if you can't stand hearing it all over and over again then it could be a nightmare to skate to it.

Yeah. Well, he got to use it after all, so it wasn't wasted effort. I guess a lot of the negative feelings results from poor communication (it usually does). But then, we can't really guess what happened. Strange as it may seem to us (due to some of the music choices for skaters... badly spliced together, horrific vocals), I think skaters probably all love their music! But sometimes it can really be difficult to imagine, lol.

 

[Caustica]

I think the "only choreography training" strategy only works for prepubescent skaters. When puberty hit them and their bodies start changing, they need proper physical training. I think Urmanov' approach is right in this case.

Yeah! This really makes me wonder how Evgenia and Polina are going to do further down the line - whether they will stay with Eteri or not, or face the same problems as Yulia, due to a lack of structured off-ice training.

 

[Amei]

Yeah. Well, he got to use it after all, so it wasn't wasted effort. I guess a lot of the negative feelings results from poor communication (it usually does). But then, we can't really guess what happened. Strange as it may seem to us (due to some of the music choices for skaters... badly spliced together, horrific vocals), I think skaters probably all love their music! But sometimes it can really be difficult to imagine, lol.

I would hope so, considering the amount of hours they have to practice and the effort to put feelings into a performance would be difficult to do if you hate the music.

 

[Caustica]

I would hope so, considering the amount of hours they have to practice and the effort to put feelings into a performance would be difficult to do if you hate the music.

Yes, precisely, but sometimes some of the music choices we hear really makes that difficult to believe

 

[sjid]

Her comments about the training in Eteri's group are pretty shocking...Eteri deals mainly with students that are kids/young teens, without proper guidance on physical training they are going to be more subject to injury and it's easier to not train as hard if you have you are responsible for your training vs. something structured with a coach/instructor with you that is going to push you.

From the little I've read, building strength, stamina, flexibility, and mobility is a science. There are well-established techniques to develop specific abilities. Strength training is a specialty that requires much study. Ability to motivate (and supervise) is also important. She lost a season before the Olympic year with recurring stress fractures, a concussion, and lesser injuries. She had shoes that didn't fit and were falling apart, she had to tack them together with shoestrings. Then the bloody feet sores the next year, orthopedic problems, surgeons' advice......... Nutrition is also critical, remember the powder diet. There is also a question of training for jumps, etc. if all they did was choreo. Recall that she had a jump specialist for part of the R&J season. She is even more an Olympian than we knew, overcoming everything to get the gold medal. I am glad she is making this experience public, someone with authority should intervene.

 

[sjid]

Yeah. Well, he got to use it after all, so it wasn't wasted effort. I guess a lot of the negative feelings results from poor communication (it usually does). But then, we can't really guess what happened. Strange as it may seem to us (due to some of the music choices for skaters... badly spliced together, horrific vocals), I think skaters probably all love their music! But sometimes it can really be difficult to imagine, lol.

Last November Alba supplied this soundtrack from the movie Perfect Sense, which may have been the source of the music she didn't like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjWqWDtHHH0&ab_channel=VitomirStanisic You can read more about this (p. 572, post 8575). Medvedeva uses different music. Yulia prefers lyrical music with contrasting melodies, lots of feeling, usually rather sad. This music has none of those qualities, I'll leave it at that.

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

Very interesting interview. I love the part where she discussed the "warlike" conditions in Moscow and then her surprise at the way things are in Alexei's group.

And then I switched to Urmanov... I thought they were hiding something

The reason she is a star to me is that she is unlike anyone else and there is nothing standard or expected in the way she responds to things.

 

[Caustica]

Last November Alba supplied this soundtrack from the movie Perfect Sense, which may have been the source of the music she didn't like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjWqWDtHHH0&ab_channel=VitomirStanisic You can read more about this (p. 572, post 8575). Medvedeva uses different music. Yulia prefers lyrical music with contrasting melodies, lots of feeling, usually rather sad. This music has none of those qualities, I'll leave it at that.

Oh, but from the interview it sounds like Medvedeva is using the same music that Yulia didn't like. But Yulia doesn't feel resistance to it any more because it's not her music. From the translation on fsuniverse, "When Evgenia started skating to it I thought it would annoy me hearing the music on the rink, but that didn't happen. Guess subconsciously I knew it was not my music anymore and I didn't care about it."

 

[sjid]

Oh, but from the interview it sounds like Medvedeva is using the same music that Yulia didn't like. But Yulia doesn't feel resistance to it any more because it's not her music. From the translation on fsuniverse, "When Evgenia started skating to it I thought it would annoy me hearing the music on the rink, but that didn't happen. Guess subconsciously I knew it was not my music anymore and I didn't care about it."

I think you are right.