Yuzuru Hanyu: 2014-15 Season

[KansaiPJ]

Having watched it live, I can only say it was absolutely amazing. That's the only way to describe Yuzu's SP tonight. If you want more details, he was fast and light throughout the whole program. Some skaters stroke fast and jump, but then look slow and heavy between their big elements. Yuzu kept a great balance between speed and softness of movements, not to talk about his musicality. He has by far the best skating skills and his jumps are gorgeous not only because he jumps so high and rotates so fast, but also because his landings are so soft it makes you wonder if he's skating on ice or he's floating. Let the haters hate, let them go crazy about the results and claim overscoring...Yuzu was the best today and if they can't accept that it's not our problem. People watching him live agree that he was awesome, TV commentators praised his skating too and said it was incredible, judges agree too...what do they want? A 10 point penalty for falling? Anyway, go Yuzuru! I know you can skate a clean Phantom tomorrow!

You said it so well I cannot improve upon it. Yuzuru was simply amazing.

 

[leolion11]

arty: YAY wonderful to come back to good news :dance:
Can't wait to watch it
Oh My that was sublime. I was sad about the se-3a-se going away, but the choreo after the 4T is and the original will probably come back anyway. JButt has really outdone himself. And so has Yuzu! SS improvement like how. and musicality on point *faints* and the steps *dies* the spins *dies again*
ooh I watched it again I can't even. People maybe whining on the other thread (I don't know I'm not going to look) but I'm going to say he wazrobbed on GOE for 3a and 4t how did he not get a single 3 for the 4T? maybe skating first... he took a pcs hit as well for the fall, that could have had more 9s (and 10s but maybe that's me being a crazy fan); though it could have been consistency lowering as well. hmm looking at others looks like the judges were just conservative with the 3s (haven't watched anybody else yet)

Am I seeing things or did his boot/blade catch on his pant leg during the 3t?

ITA. Jeffrey Buttle really did a good job with Yuzuru's SP. It's just amazing. Using my favourite piece by Chopin also helps me like it more And yeah at first I thought he was marked correctly but after I saw the GOE he got for his 4T and 3A I was just like NOPE. Especially the 4T like why on earth? How good do they expect a 4T to be? Because that was pretty much one of the best 4Ts I've seen. And someone in the GPF thread that maybe he should try doing a tano on it like the junior ladies

But I must say, I really miss the SE-3A-SE. That was the highlight of his entire program and now it's gone...

 

[yhmafan]

He just looked so happy... I thought he might have been overscored a bit but when I looked at the protocols, everythong just seemed reasonable give his performance. He's been getting lv4 on all non-jump elements this season, so I'm not sure why, when he lands a beautiful 4T and 3A in the second half, and a rotated 3Lz-3T, people think he should be scored lower. He got -GOE for that combo, and it was really the only flaw. The thing is, what they want is a stricter penalty on the fall, but this is the current penalty for the fall and there is nothing you can do about that. Also when Yuzuru's jumps are on, they are beautiful and get so much GOE, plus his combo's in the second half -- so everything seems all right. I just hate how people go #wuzrobbed because he fell on one element out of many. Yes, a fall detracts from the program, but do you really want to slap him with a harsher penalty just for that and pretend that the rest of the program didn't exist? I do not understand these people, but they can all go grouse over their stale cake.

And seems like some those haters ONLY focus on his fall(s) and completely ignore trying to talk about his brilliant jumps, spins and stpsq,
even his improved posture, artistry and SS that he surely made. I am not an expert but still quite ridiculous to see that. but anyhow, haters gonne hate.
Maybe some of them simply dislike the results. that’s all.

In any case, the most important thing for me tonight was his smile. No matter the score or the reaction of everyone else, Yuzuru knew he did his best and gave his best, and his smile was simply radiant. He seems to be mentally in the game now. Being able to lay down what he has right now, no matter how lacking he may seem or how he is not in top form, has done loads for his confidence. This was what I wanted to see from him -- the graciousness, the attack, the challenge. He can only go forward from here. I wish him well for the FS tomorrow!

Yes, Best luck for his FS tomorrow and hope Javi on a medal at his home rink!!

 

[salchowx4]

I do think falls should be punished more harshly, but I'd still have him in first. Good skate other than the one mistake. He should be pleased that he is close to top form again.

 

[Bonesfan]

Pamina - I'm so glad to hear you are having a wonderful time and enjoying FINALLY seeing Yuzuru live! I remember how disappointed you were when he withdrew from Finlandia.

I loved PW, but love this SP too! Costume is lovely, choreography, jumps, all the subtle nuances. This really is a different, more mature program for him. He said in an interview that he could not have skated a program like this 2-3 years ago.

Right now I only have my smartphone and semi-acceptable wi-fi, but I'll probably write a little more about the others too once I'm back home and have an actual computer available but it's just a-ma-zing. Worth every cent and every single nerve I have lost already!




I'm pretty sure I'm an even worse source because I probably know even less about anything. He's just simply gorgeous all around. Everything looks so effortless and I'm so in love with his spins, he just kinda goes with the flow of the music and his positions look so "tidy" but it doesn't look like he has to even try hard to make it look so good. And I get why some people say it's like he's flying over the ice because sometimes it really looks like he's gliding without any resistance. Sure, ice is slippery, but not that much.


And oh my God yes the costume sure helps. Did I mention how much he's GLITTERING??? I keep giggling just thinking about it, I LOVE it!


[unacceptably crazy fangirl mode on] agreed. Yuzuru smiling might haunt me in my dreams. [/]

 

[Winnie_20]

Stupid question of the day: what ranking does one need to be invited to skate at the GPF Gala? Because I guess the juniors will be there, too, and since there are only six skaters per category, it wouldn't make much sense to have the top five at the Gala, so... Top three, then? I'm sure Javi will be there regardless of winning a medal or not, but of course I'm asking because of Yuzu. ;-)

Still can't believe last night was real. Seeing him at the practices was great, but nothing compares to the excitement of the actual competition surrounded by Japanese and Spanish fans.

 

[chiraya]

I just watched Yuzu's SP and I'm just glad I can see his laugh again and he hugged Brian he seemed enjoy his skating and even smiled throughout his performance, and I start to love his SP now

btw can someone explain to me what is level 4 and where you can read it in the score sheet? thankss

 

[foruiz]

I just watched Yuzu's SP and I'm just glad I can see his laugh again and he hugged Brian he seemed enjoy his skating and even smiled throughout his performance, and I start to love his SP now

btw can someone explain to me what is level 4 and where you can read it in the score sheet? thankss

You get that for spins and step sequence... You can see that in the protocols together with the specific spins that a skater did.

 

[Wo|flax]

I just watched Yuzu's SP and I'm just glad I can see his laugh again and he hugged Brian he seemed enjoy his skating and even smiled throughout his performance, and I start to love his SP now

btw can someone explain to me what is level 4 and where you can read it in the score sheet? thankss

http://static.isu.org/media/154325/1884-sandp-amendments-and-corrections-to-1861.pdf pg 7 and 8 (for explanation) (tldr: there are requirement for each level, think of it like BV for jumps)
on first pg is the BV / GOE
on scoresheet there is a number after the element (eg CSp4 =level 4)


because I have no life TES breakdown:

Yuzu jumps- 33.29 (-1 =>32.29)
yuzu nonjump-elements-17.82

Tatsu jumps-29.73 (lower BV, perfect 4T vs notso good 4T3T (looks like judges took in lieu of lenient Tech specialist) aka the most worth GOE, as well as 3A in second half also worth most GOE)
Tatu elements-15.59

Voronov jumps-31.1 (again lower quality on the well executed elements, as well as 3Lo- lower effective GOE advantage as well as lower BV)
Voronov elements-14.8 (level 2 on stsq)
poor Voronov had the misfortune of skating right after Yuzu, thereby making his skating look even worse, and before Kovtun but 3Lo is his choice. poor Voronov also only got 0.2 pcs more than Mura

Kovtun jumps-31.11 (negative GOE, and everthing in first half)
elements- 15.83 (higher than Tatsus, and only 2 points less pcs- I'm going to have to watch this performance;was Tatsu held down?) (more levels than Tatsu, lower GOE, except for StSq, which he got higher level, and last spin)

I think it's the GOE factoring that has people confused. and forgetting that its not all about jumps. Only thing is -2 goe on the combo, since the lutz was bad. what really happened is the judges accidentally didn't give him +3 for something else and made up for it there (jk btw that wouldn't really happen) Yuzu not the only one judges being weird for though. (btw I don't want +3goe across the board for his (3A and) 4T, just more lol)

 

[Lindacrow]

I'm going to say he wazrobbed on GOE for 3a and 4t how did he not get a single 3 for the 4T?

On the topic of GOE's, what is the highest scoring 4t? Does anyone know? I wouldn't be surprised if it was done by Yuzu! The boy has one if the greatest quads I have ever seen!

 

[Meoima]

On the topic of GOE's, what is the highest scoring 4t? Does anyone know? I wouldn't be surprised if it was done by Yuzu! The boy has one if the greatest quads I have ever seen!

Patrick currently has the highest GOE for the 4T.

 

[sajoya]

You guys have no idea how many versions of that SP I'm downloading right now. It wasn't perfect but like many have said, it's like he didn't even fall at all. His quick recovery from that mistake and straight to his step sequence seal the deal. I'm proud of him, he's back. I won't have a say in his score because I'm still not familiar with this scoring system, but I do agree that other skaters did deserve higher scores (but not in placements though).

 

[Lindacrow]

Patrick currently has the highest GOE for the 4T.

Patrick's quad must have been higher than +2.86 GOE (Yuzu's Sochi SP) and lower than +3 GOE because if I remember correctly, Yuzu's 3A at CoC was the only jump ever to get a +3 right? Sorry if Im wrong

 

[Wo|flax]

Patrick currently has the highest GOE for the 4T.

Yuzu got 2.86 in Sochi did Patrick get +3 at some point ?

You guys have no idea how many versions of that SP I'm downloading right now. It wasn't perfect but like many have said, it's like he didn't even fall at all. His quick recovery from that mistake and straight to his step sequence seal the deal. I'm proud of him, he's back. I won't have a say in his score because I'm still not familiar with this scoring system, but I do agree that other skaters did deserve higher scores (but not in placements though).

lmao me too it's embaracing; and Im not done yet I neeed higher definition. also commentary translations :

 

[Meoima]

Patrick's quad must have been higher than +2.86 GOE (Yuzu's Sochi SP) and lower than +3 GOE because if I remember correctly, Yuzu's 3A at CoC was the only jump ever to get a +3 right? Sorry if Im wrong

sorry I forgot that it was a combo, not a single element, Patrick got 3.0 GOE for his 4T3T combo at Sochi.

http://www.isuresults.com/results/owg2014/owg14_Men_FS_Scores.pdf

 

[Alba]

You guys have no idea how many versions of that SP I'm downloading right now. It wasn't perfect but like many have said, it's like he didn't even fall at all. His quick recovery from that mistake and straight to his step sequence seal the deal. I'm proud of him, he's back. I won't have a say in his score because I'm still not familiar with this scoring system, but I do agree that other skaters did deserve higher scores (but not in placements though).

His scores are fine. The only thing is that maybe -3 from all judges for that combo, but other than that (not such a big deal either) nothing strange about his scores.
The only guy who deserved higher scores was Voronov, but it's not related with Yuzuru's scores.

 

[leolion11]

His scores are fine. The only thing is that maybe -3 from all judges for that combo, but other than (not such a big deal either) that nothing strange about his scores.
The only guy who deserve higher scores today was Voronov, but it's not related with Yuzuru's scores.

Idk but I would have given him higher PCS. Even with a fall, his performance was still really good. Definitely warranted higher pcs than his COC sp but then again, he was probably overscored on PCS at COC.

I would have to disagree on Voronov. He was really lacking in the PCS department so I think his scores were about right. The only person I'm annoyed about is Kovtun. How on earth does he deserve that kind of pcs

 

[Winnie_20]

The only guy who deserve higher scores today was Voronov, but it's not related with Yuzuru's scores.

+1. And the entire audience agreed, I think. Even the Japanese all around me, which I thought was really nice of them.

 

[Winnie_20]

Hey Pamina, we were just on Spanish television. ;-) TVe showed a sports roundup and they showed Javi, and those Spanish gals behind us with the bambam posters.
I'm also checking the newspapers again, yesterday one had some stuff about the opening ceremony. I want Spanish / Catalan Yuzuru news!

 

[sajoya]

His scores are fine. The only thing is that maybe -3 from all judges for that combo, but other than (not such a big deal either) that nothing strange about his scores.
The only guy who deserve higher scores today was Voronov, but it's not related with Yuzuru's scores.

Agree, I thought Voronov deserved a higher score. Even if it's not related with Yuzuru, people in other threads are actually dragging him into it :disapp: Like can't anyone ever support their favorite skaters without stripping another skater's worth?