How did spins highlight the music before the COP? Going a bit off topic - I don't mean this to sound rude, and I'm sorry if it does come out that way but I'm curious about your answer. What exactly do you like about skating? There doesn't seem to be much enjoyment that you get from the performances.
Do you not think that V/M freedance at 2008 Worlds or D/W free dance from 2009 Worlds were quite simply breathtaking? Did Joannie's performance at Japan Open 2009 not stir any emotions? Yu-Na's powerful short from 2009? Chan's joyful skate at 2008 Nationals? D/D romantic long at Worlds in 2008? S/Z long at 2009 Worlds? If the beauty in these performances is not visible I don't know what people are seeing. Anyways, you don't have to answer, like I said, just curious
Ooooh, Lulu at 1995 Worlds
. That free skate is the first program I actually remember seeing (and liking). I watched some stuff from Albertville in 1992 but all I remember is Wylie winning the silver and Laetitia Hubert falling on just about every jump in her free skate; my memories of Lillehammer are extremely vague. Lulu's Last Emperor was gorgeous and she was wonderful - BTW, wasn't it choreographed by Toller Cranston?
I couldn't remember what the bullet points where for CH but I just noticed that gkelly posted the link for PCS guidelines on another thread. For CH and IN, these are just wonderfully vague - basically, there's a lot of room for the judges to do whatever they want. Here, take a look - it's on pages 4 and 5.
lol, good one!
that if you want to combine both, you can maybe switch to peaches?:think:
gkelly said:
Buttercup said:
This and your post #2 are my favourite posts in this entire thread.Basically, as I wrote, I see it as comparing a really good apple with a really good orange. One person might prefer the orange because it's juicier and another will like the apple because it's crunchier. So what does that tell us about the quality of either? Nothing at all. You really can't compare skaters like that, unless we go to CD-like programs, and even then, almost no skater can perform equally well to all types of music, so it'll give some people an advantage. Maybe more like an OD? Heh, a folk SP for the men! Will people show up in pointy fuchsia boots?
Anyway, due to said vagueness, I read the guidelines as :if you like Jeremy's style, score him higher; if you like Brian's style, score him higher.
MM, I had similar reaction when I first saw that; it was indeed a most alarming sort of shiny fuchsia in person. I was in second row seats that day at TEB, and was thus in a position to make this assessment. In fact, let me offer this: the picture of these two that I took at the event. The quality is crap because my camera was not set up for that sort of photography, and because the high-res version is not on this computer; if any of my neighbors that day are reading this, do feel free to share your own pics!Oh, my eyes! That picture was photoshopped to add that screaming fushia, right? No fabric dye could come out that way.
Exactly what I was getting at! For all that some people like to dismiss what Joubert is doing, there are few skaters who could pull off his programs convincingly. Also, I don't think Jeremy Abbott sees himself as some kind of elitist snob that only highly discerning fans can appreciate; I have no doubt he wants his skating to appeal to as many people as possible, but he's not willing to compromise and do something that doesn't suit him athletically or artistically. Same goes for Joubert - he could maybe play the system a bit more, but why would we want either of them to be anything other than the best they can be, with programs that highlight their strengths as skaters?
:agree: 
