2015 Worlds Men Short Program March 27

[karne]

He hold most of the weight after it on his legs ( don't know how but he did) , and then just hand down. It wasn't fall according to rules

He had both hands down - that's a fall.

Only ONE skater had the 4T with a positive GOE today.
Brendan KERRY.

:yay: :yay: :yay:

#brendanwuzrobbed?

Brendan > Kovtun

 

[Krunchii]

Who was waving rising sun flag?

Kovtun better be careful now he's bombed two worlds maybe that will be equal to gachinski one he was dumped after one bomb

I saw a fan with a banner for Yuzuru and the background was the Rising Sun flag, this was on the CBC stream, I'm not sure if it appeared on any others

 

[rollerblade]

Now over 2k views... keep it going!

Any plans to upload Jason's program? Pretty please?

 

[Hanmgse]

Only ONE skater had the 4T with a positive GOE today.
Brendan KERRY.

Ouch. Hope the men have a better day tomorrow

 

[s_parks]

Only ONE skater had the 4T with a positive GOE today.
Brendan KERRY.

And Tuktamysheva would have had the 7th highest tes in the men's event.

 

[cheerknithanson]

YAASSSSSS!!! Jason and Yuzuru both made the final group! 2/3 of my faves in the final group=A very happy me!

Oh and apparently The Skating Lesson's twitter followed me on twitter about 12 minutes ago apparently. Interesting.

 

[jkun]

Maxim got like the 25th highest TES, but 5th highest PCS?

eta: If he were (imo) an amazingly artistic skater, I'd get it. If he had really well-constructed programs, I'd get it. But....

...Sigh. His bolero is so ill-conceived. Judges are giving him As for effort, pity, and for being ...unique?

 

[cl2]

Butt don't have to touchy ice to make fall.

Is that so? My impression is that the butt does have to touch the ice to count as a fall and get the fall deduction. For the funky twisty stepy-outy hand-down thing that Hanyu did, it would be classified under some other IJS nomenclature, not "fall".

 

[Mrs. P]

The difference between 10th and 19th is just 6 points...and about 9 points between 10th and 3rd. There can and will be a lot of shake up in the standings.

Javi has a 7 point lead on the rest of the field and Hanyu 10 points, so not a huge buffer there either.

 

[karne]

Is that so? My impression is that the butt does have to touch the ice to count as a fall and get the fall deduction. For the funky twisty stepy-outy hand-down thing that Hanyu did, it would be classified under some other IJS nomenclature, not "fall".

Rule changed a few seasons ago. I've seen jumps that would normally be called step-outs with both hands down called a fall under the new rule.

 

[gmyers]

I saw a fan with a banner for Yuzuru and the background was the Rising Sun flag, this was on the CBC stream, I'm not sure if it appeared on any others

That's surprising! Quite intentionally provocative and nationalist

 

[karne]

The difference between 10th and 19th is just 5 points...there can and will be a lot of shake up in the standings.

*picks Josh up and throws him up the leaderboard*

Yep, that's it. I've had my post-midnight crackup. Goodnight, folks!

 

[Sugarpova]

The haters had no influence on Kovtun's skating. It's not them who won but Kovtun who lost, he was the one skating.

ofc he did skate terribly & Im no fan of his at all Im just a bit tired of same old same old comments (that i do agree with actually)


anyway I'll be rooting for Den all the way! Hopefully he will slay like he did at 4CC

 

[Krunchii]

That's surprising! Quite intentionally provocative and nationalist

https://youtu.be/zFHnwnH5YpY?t=4m32s

found the time stamp, how asinine of them, and in China too

 

[jkun]

Spain does at the moment.

HAha. that would be something. I still don't really agree that 1 man can get 3 spots. I didn't like it when Yuna got korea 3 from 1. You should be able to get +1 and -1 spots.

 

[OS]

Now over 2k views... keep it going!

Hehe I am responsible for 3 of them This is a good performance, could be better, but still is miles better than anyone else except may be Javier. After seeing the protocols it is understandable where the difference come from.

 

[cheerknithanson]

Maybe me bringing my Japanese flag and Pooh doll to chemistry tutoring sent awesome vibes to Yuzuru....

 

[MasterB]

To Chinese and Korean people, it's like the swastika, it's extremely disrespectful


Thank you for taking the time to explain it. I don't think the fan meant any disrespect and I hope that they don't get in trouble.

I know about Japan's failed attempt to conquer Korea and China during WWII and all of the millions of people that died, I just didn't know about the reference of the Rising Sun. In America they often refer to Japan as the land of the Rising Sun but, never as a derogatory term or at least I've never heard it that way.

 

[Art&Sport]

Mentally weak. Rus Fed needs to find someone else to get behind. He just can't cut it on the big stage.

You don't walk in Kovtun's shoes, so you really don't know what it could be about, anything from nerves, illness, injury, equipment problems, jet lag, personal family problems, coaching issues. Plus,Kovtun might have a lack of confidence in his performance skills which could have caused him to falter from pressure of skating in the last group with guys who clearly are better than him. I think Kovtun is a second tier skater anyway, as is Voronov, but simply the ability to land quads carries so much more weight than it should. The sport is so whacked, especially in the men's event.

It's not great of us fans to tear down skaters when they perform poorly, since they get enough tearing down by the judges, that is unless they are Yuzu Hanyu who gets lots of points, even when he's never skated two clean performances in his life. That's not a tear down by me, btw, it's simply a fact.

On the men's side, we by now should expect these kinds of mistake-ridden events with the quad taking so much out of these guys mentally and physically. The quad is over-rated. The sport should not be so heavily weighted toward acrobatics. What these guys do is tremendous by itself, even without quads. These programs are filled with so much difficult tech content, it's close to being inhuman what's required to be on the podium.

And looking at the detailed scoring breakdown, clearly Jason Brown is way lowballed on Performance Execution, Transitions, Choreo, and Interpretation. No way Sergei Voronov should be even slightly higher on PCS than Jason. The judges absolutely don't know how to analyze performance qualities. The PCS are used to bolster skaters with quads, and are generally meted out more stingily to skaters who don't have consistent quads.

 

[treeloving]

I hope the flag thing will not become an out of proportion drama. Like it was last time.