Gracie and Ashley practice video and interview from earlier today.
http://kstp.com/sports/stories/S4023499.shtml?cat=7
http://kstp.com/sports/stories/S4023499.shtml?cat=7
2016 US Nationals Senior Ladies SP
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*If* i let her go for the flip i would frankly want to work with a PR person to talk about how it is a process and bla bla bla... at face value she should do the loop and I think she should do the loop. The only argument i have seen that makes sense is that you have to sometimes practice things during the season, accept it will not always go well, but you still have to make those errors to be ready at worlds. So if the long term goal is the 3F at worlds, that is at least a maybe in my book, but you need a few good sound bytes about the process... not pretending the issue does not exist. I can sorta see doing as a process... but really I just don't think they are worth it.
As for what she does. It seems this season she has been popping her 3F into a double - and in the SP that gets a goose egg. She does fall on it at times as well. Usually when she falls it is on the 3F. She also is prone to edge calls...so she has a few costly issues with it.
That is a idiotic plan to be honest. She already lost SA because of the flip i wonder how they will feel if she blows it again and loses Nationals too because of this strategy? Right now is the only thing that matters not 2018.
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Lol, well despite the fact that I'm not at all qualified to coach anyone, let alone Gracie Gold, her loop is more reliable and she won't risk points on an edge call.
She's popped the 3F into a 2F 2/3 times in the SP this season. I believe (not 100% sure) she's also popped it into a 1F at both Japan Open and GPF in the LP. I don't think she's had a fall on it. She needs to make herself rotate it.
But even if she gets those rotations, a potential e call will make it worth less than a clean loop in the SP. But like I said, maybe she's playing the long game and banking on the flip getting better the more she gets used to it. IF she's able to do a clean-edge lutz and clean-edge flip, she'll be one of the few ladies in the current field who can.
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Can I just say how much listening to Gracie talk cracks me up. She lives in Ca. now but, you can't take the Midwest out of her. "I'm skating really wahllll" and "My Prograaams are so much more Meehhh." I LOVE HER!!!
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I'm inclined to agree with you, but it's a process. Same with Jason Brown and his quad.
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I'm inclined to agree with you, but it's a process. Same with Jason Brown and his quad.
... other than the fact that the quad is worth a fair amount more than the difference between 3F and 3L.
a 4T is worth 10.3. A 3Z is worth 6.0 a 2A is worth 3.3. (they are the likely jumps Jason would replace)
A 3F is only worth .2 more than a 3L... it is one thing to have a process... but you have to look at if the investment is worth the payoff. In this case there is just not that much of a reward for what Gracie has invested.
....and it is a good comparison... I just think we should look at the numbers a little as well, because they may not both have the same answer.
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Gracie's agent just tweeted a photo of Carly and Gracie at the draw:
https://twitter.com/YukiSNYC/status/689982169331138560
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I must admit how happy it makes me to see these young sisters getting along and hanging out together. :cool2:
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I thought Gracie won Silver in the team event in Sochi
She actually skated better in the team event but just happened to score higher in the individual
Huh? I thought it was bronze actually.
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SP start order has been posted:
http://www.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2016/18516/CAT017SEG033.html
1 Avery Kurtz, Broadmoor SC
2 Carly Gold, All Year FSC
3 Maria Yang, Peninsula SC
4 Christina Cleveland, Strongsville SC
5 Mariah Bell, Rocky Mountain FSC
6 Courtney Hicks, All Year FSC
7 Heidi Munger, SC of Boston
8 Franchesca Chiera, Panthers FSC
9 Alexis Gagnon, Coyotes SC of Arizona
10 Mirai Nagasu, Pasadena FSC
11 Karen Chen, Peninsula SC
12 Alexie Mieskoski, Columbus FSC
13 Tyler Pierce, All Year FSC
14 Bradie Tennell, Wagon Wheel FSC
15 Ashley Cain, SC of New York
16 Elena Pulkinen, Coyotes SC of Arizona
17 Angela Wang, Salt Lake Figure Skating
18 Polina Edmunds, Peninsula SC
19 Katie McBeath, Westminster FSC of Erie
20 Ashley Wagner, SC of Wilmington
21 Gracie Gold, Wagon Wheel FSC
22 Hannah Miller, Lansing SC
http://www.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2016/18516/CAT017SEG033.html
1 Avery Kurtz, Broadmoor SC
2 Carly Gold, All Year FSC
3 Maria Yang, Peninsula SC
4 Christina Cleveland, Strongsville SC
5 Mariah Bell, Rocky Mountain FSC
6 Courtney Hicks, All Year FSC
7 Heidi Munger, SC of Boston
8 Franchesca Chiera, Panthers FSC
9 Alexis Gagnon, Coyotes SC of Arizona
10 Mirai Nagasu, Pasadena FSC
11 Karen Chen, Peninsula SC
12 Alexie Mieskoski, Columbus FSC
13 Tyler Pierce, All Year FSC
14 Bradie Tennell, Wagon Wheel FSC
15 Ashley Cain, SC of New York
16 Elena Pulkinen, Coyotes SC of Arizona
17 Angela Wang, Salt Lake Figure Skating
18 Polina Edmunds, Peninsula SC
19 Katie McBeath, Westminster FSC of Erie
20 Ashley Wagner, SC of Wilmington
21 Gracie Gold, Wagon Wheel FSC
22 Hannah Miller, Lansing SC
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I think it is cute that the Gold twins are second to last and second to skate.
I also think Ashley has the advantage here. Even if she does not do well, Ashely will likely have the crowd, and Gracie will have to hear/see that.
I also think Ashley has the advantage here. Even if she does not do well, Ashely will likely have the crowd, and Gracie will have to hear/see that.
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True......I always wanted to perform right before my rival. It's kind of a "Try And Beat That" kind of situation. Hopefully Gracie has been through this so many times that she doesn't get distracted by the crowd noise or scores. As long as she's focused I can't see it really affecting her. It would be way worse to have something go wrong with your music or costume. Right Tonya Harding..
I remember Irina Slutskaya having a problem with her music at Worlds in 2001. I found it. This would be way worse IMO, than having to listen to scores from another skater.
Here's Irina's SP from 2001 Worlds British Version when her music stops and she has to restart her program. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsrxgkMdt8E I
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:hopelessness:
Gracie skating almost last AND after Ashley? I already feel like crying.
On one hand, if Ashley bombs, it might make her nervous, but on the other hand, if Ashley skates lights-out...eek. This is really not what I wanted to hear after the heartbreak of Vivian not skating well. 
Gracie skating almost last AND after Ashley? I already feel like crying.
On one hand, if Ashley bombs, it might make her nervous, but on the other hand, if Ashley skates lights-out...eek. This is really not what I wanted to hear after the heartbreak of Vivian not skating well. 
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:hopelessness:
Gracie skating almost last AND after Ashley? I already feel like crying.
Or...If Ashley bombs, the pressure of having the chance to lead with a huge margin in the SP can make Gracie crumble....:roll9:
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OH COME ON! PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME CRY!
I am probably going to go into cardiac arrest when Gracie skates, I'm so nervous. (My heart was beating as much as it does when I work out when Vivian skated, so you can only imagine...)
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