I don't know if I can stay up late enough to watch tonight, but it'll be great to start looking for CoC videos in the morning... Chan will likely get him by 6-8 or so in components, so hell have to get his jumps, unless Chan faulted, to get past him...assuming Bo does well and capitalizes on his lead.
2016-2017 State of U.S. Men Figure Skating
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I don't know if I can stay up late enough to watch tonight, but it'll be great to start looking for CoC videos in the morning... Chan will likely get him by 6-8 or so in components, so hell have to get his jumps, unless Chan faulted, to get past him...assuming Bo does well and capitalizes on his lead.
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yeah... we may end up with 2 USA men and no USA ladies in the GPF. When was the last time that happened!
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2008, when Weir and Abbott qualified for the GPF -- and no U.S. ladies.
http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2008/gpsmen.pdf
http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2008/gpsladies.pdf
http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2008/gpsladies.pdf
In 2009, Abbott and Weir [ETA: and Lysacek!] qualified -- and Ashley did too.
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I keep thinking that Adam and Jason are the hope of the US Men (Which is true) However, I just remembered Nathan Chen who defeated Patrick in Finland. Does he have any chance of making the final?
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Still within the realm of possibility for Nathan to qualify for the GPF.
For example, if Hanyu wins NHK, Nathan places second, and Jason third, then final ranking points would be:
Javi 30
Patrick 30
Shoma and Hanyu 28
Jason 24
Nathan 22
Adam 22 (Nathan would rank above Adam b/c of the first tiebreaker of highest placement: 2nd for Nathan vs. 3rd for Adam)
http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2016/gpsmen.pdf
Patrick 30
Shoma and Hanyu 28
Jason 24
Nathan 22
Adam 22 (Nathan would rank above Adam b/c of the first tiebreaker of highest placement: 2nd for Nathan vs. 3rd for Adam)
http://www.isuresults.com/events/gp2016/gpsmen.pdf
Fasten your seatbelts ....
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Fasten your seatbelts ....
Thanks so much Ice Coverage. Okay, youngin's. Here's a big "Fasten Your seatbelts" reference from Bette Davis herself......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKHUGvde7KU
Thanks so much Ice Coverage. Okay, youngin's. Here's a big "Fasten Your seatbelts" reference from Bette Davis herself......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKHUGvde7KU
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For the record, here are our national competitors.
BYES
(due to top 5 at nationals and/or international compeittion - in order season's best score)
1. Jason Brown - 268.38 (#6 on ISU Season's Best List - at NHK this week)
2. Adam Rippon - 267.53 (#7)
3. Nathan Chen - 264.80 (#8)
4. Max Aaron - 242.74 (#15)
5. Timothy Dolensky - 226.53 (#26 - he's likely going to Golden Spin in a few weeks, so this could go up)
6. Vincent Zhou- 226.39 (#27 - he's on Golden Spin entry list)
7. Grant Hochstein - 217.25 ( #37 - at NHK)
8. Ross Miner -214.48 (#41)
9. Andrew Torgashev - 204.91 (#51)
10. Tomoki Hiwatshi- 180.94 (#75)
SECTIONAL QUALIFIERS (in order of score/ ISU scores/SB ranking in parenthesis)
11. Sean Rabbit (P1)* - 213.50 (209.66, #45)
12. Shotaro Omori (P2) - 212.34
13. Kevin Shum (E1)* - 211.83 (178.92, #77)
14. Scott Dyer (P3) - 204.57
15. Jordan Moeller (M1) -202.99
16. Alexander Johnson (M2)* - 201.32 (208.64, #47)
17. Emmauel Savary (E2)* - 200.82 (160.33, #108)
18. Jimmy Ma (E3) - 196.75
19. Olesiy Melnyk (E4)* - 192.67 (165.81 #97)
20. Daniel Kulenkamp (P4) - 178.64
21. Dennis Pham (M3) - 163.35
22. Sebastian Payannet (M4) - 162.34
* Competed internationally for Team USA this season
BYES
(due to top 5 at nationals and/or international compeittion - in order season's best score)
1. Jason Brown - 268.38 (#6 on ISU Season's Best List - at NHK this week)
2. Adam Rippon - 267.53 (#7)
3. Nathan Chen - 264.80 (#8)
4. Max Aaron - 242.74 (#15)
5. Timothy Dolensky - 226.53 (#26 - he's likely going to Golden Spin in a few weeks, so this could go up)
6. Vincent Zhou- 226.39 (#27 - he's on Golden Spin entry list)
7. Grant Hochstein - 217.25 ( #37 - at NHK)
8. Ross Miner -214.48 (#41)
9. Andrew Torgashev - 204.91 (#51)
10. Tomoki Hiwatshi- 180.94 (#75)
SECTIONAL QUALIFIERS (in order of score/ ISU scores/SB ranking in parenthesis)
11. Sean Rabbit (P1)* - 213.50 (209.66, #45)
12. Shotaro Omori (P2) - 212.34
13. Kevin Shum (E1)* - 211.83 (178.92, #77)
14. Scott Dyer (P3) - 204.57
15. Jordan Moeller (M1) -202.99
16. Alexander Johnson (M2)* - 201.32 (208.64, #47)
17. Emmauel Savary (E2)* - 200.82 (160.33, #108)
18. Jimmy Ma (E3) - 196.75
19. Olesiy Melnyk (E4)* - 192.67 (165.81 #97)
20. Daniel Kulenkamp (P4) - 178.64
21. Dennis Pham (M3) - 163.35
22. Sebastian Payannet (M4) - 162.34
* Competed internationally for Team USA this season
Thank you for making this list...Just curious, why are Torgashev and Hiwatashi competing as Seniors here rather than Juniors?
I don't know the exact reason -- but both have already won a junior title (Andrew in 2015 and Tomoki last year) so it makes sense they want to move up nationally.
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This is quite common in the US. Nathan competed as a Senior last year, and Joshua and Jason were both competing as Seniors nationally at sixteen, and didn't make their Senior international debuts until they were 18.
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What about Alexei KRASNOZHON? Do we know if he is planning to compete as a junior or senior domestically? He has a bye do to qualifying for the JGPF, but I am not sure if he is planning to go as a senior or junior.
I believe he is still competing as a junior, which isn't surprising considering he was 3rd last year and I think for him the extra year in juniors is beneficial.
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On one hand I agree, on the other i fear his best shot at Junior worlds is to compete as a senior... not a fan of that aspect of USFSA. I hope that if he does well as a junior he will get to go to worlds in part do to his GP performance.
In the men, USFSA has sent the junior champ/medalists in past years -- they just have to be hella impressive compared to the seniors. They sent Torgashev in 2015 (plus Nathan, who placed 8th in seniors), Nathan and Jordan Moeller, gold and silver Jr. medalists, in 2014 (along with Shotoro Omori who was injured but got a spot). They also sent Shotoro (the 2013 jr. silver medalist; Vincent Zhou was too young) with Josh and Jason in 2013 and Timothy Dolensky (again the silver medalist, since Nathan was too young), again with Josh and Jason. In 2011, Max Aaron, the Jr. champ went to Jr. Worlds with Jason Brown and Keegan Messing, who placed 9th and 8th respectively in seniors.
I can see why they didn't send Jason when he won his junior title in 2010 -- he didn't have a 3A and he actually did not place first in either segment (Max was first in SP; Josh was first in FS). They opted for all seniors back then -- Grant Hochstein, Keegan Messing and Armin Mahbanoozadeh.
So really, in the men, 2016 was a notable exception since both Vincent and Nathan were in JGPF and heads and shoulders above Tomoki at the time (or one thought anyway...)
There's three spots again for Jr. Men, so I think Alexei has a good shot since the only age eligible men who would contend for Jr. Worlds at the senior level is Nathan and Vincent. (I can't really see them send any of the JGP men in seniors since they scored considerably lower than Alexei).
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... Recent lengthy interview with Krasnozhon ... written by none other than Brooklee Han:
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In Krasnozhon's recent IFS interview, he said that winning junior nationals is one of his goals for this season.
Also hopes to go to Junior Worlds for the first time ... and to place in the top six there.
Good luck to Grant, Nathan, and Jason at NHK :yay:.
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Mrs. P Thanks for the run down. Hopefully sanity will prevail. I just wish it was a little more clear really. I do wonder if Nathan would go to junior worlds if offered if he does not make senior worlds. Hard to tell what his feeling would be. I don't think there is any right or wrong answer.
They may not score considerably lower than him at Nationals, however. Alexei bombed in the short under the pressure of high expectations at Nationals last season. He was expected to take the competition. But Tomoki showed up ready. Andrew has a junior title. Alexei will have to perform at Nationals. He can earn his way onto the team against the guys competing in seniors, but there is always the possibility that someone else will look stronger late in the season. Which matters. (He will do himself a solid if he has strong performances at the JGPF).
Oh yeah, I forgot about Andrew. Duh. Anyway, I'd love a team of Vincent, Andrew and Alexei since they all had at least one good event during the JGP.
I guess who I was thinking bout was the other guys in the JGP that didn't even hit 200.
I guess who I was thinking bout was the other guys in the JGP that didn't even hit 200.
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With only two spots to worlds I am waiting to see who takes the lead - Jason and Nathan appear to be the leaders but if they bomb at NHK I guess Adam rises to the top. Now where does Max fit in let alone Grant and the others. Does anyone know about Jeremy Abbott's status. I think he may have been encouraged by his scores at the Japan Open though after seeing the GrandPrix Events he might be a (well not publicly admitted) bit concerned about the tech difficulty now being done that leaves skaters like Chan struggling to compete. And Abbott is not as strong as Chan technically or pc wise.
