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Fuji tv interview with Yuzuru.
Yuzuru Hanyu: 2016-17 Season
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this happen
https://twitter.com/savarrin/status/817656786802966529
So fuji changed againand they are broadcasting program with Yuzu tomorrow, he will talk about his ambitions for 4cc
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Oh My God, somehow I thought you were replying to the person before you, not myself, so I thought "WAIT, Yuzuru did a three limb jump and I missed it ?!?!". I need sleep. His and other men's insanity got me thinking anything is possible.
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Now I am imagining things. Happens! I have this tendency when I am sleep deprived too, it can result in some hilarious blinking. Go, nap, before it gets worse ... somehow ...
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Happens! I have this tendency when I am sleep deprived too, it can result in some hilarious blinking. Go, nap, before it gets worse ... somehow ...
Guys, I'm running a fever, don't give me nightmares!!!
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Guys, I'm running a fever, don't give me nightmares!!!
Owww! Sorry Fayruza, I hope you get better quickly, those are no fun! Here's something to promote peaceful rest.
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Guys, I'm running a fever, don't give me nightmares!!!
Feel better
I had stomach flu and I think it messed with my sleep last night because lo and behold, Yuzu was in Olympics and somehow I knew he was about to turn a planned 3A into a #yolo 4A out of nowhere. I woke myself yelling nooooo and then I see that Arena post about three impossible wishes. I hope/wish he never gets injured again, if there's such a quota for injuries he's totally maxed out by now.
Unrelatedly, Angela Yuzu shared a link in the FB fangroup to Oda's interview: http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2017/01/05/356/
His kids look up to Yuzu and want to become like Hanyu-kun~ The youngest one is too young to put into skating shoes yet, but Oda still shows him videos of Yuzu skating. Adorables.
And this video overlay of Yuzu's jump is so cool
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Feel better
Unrelatedly, Angela Yuzu shared a link in the FB fangroup to Oda's interview: http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2017/01/05/356/
His kids look up to Yuzu and want to become like Hanyu-kun~ The youngest one is too young to put into skating shoes yet, but Oda still shows him videos of Yuzu skating. Adorables.
That's so cute. Imagine if they form a Hanyu/Oda coaching team for his kids
And this video overlay of Yuzu's jump is so cool
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Feel better
I had stomach flu and I think it messed with my sleep last night because lo and behold, Yuzu was in Olympics and somehow I knew he was about to turn a planned 3A into a #yolo 4A out of nowhere. I woke myself yelling nooooo and then I see that Arena post about three impossible wishes. I hope/wish he never gets injured again, if there's such a quota for injuries he's totally maxed out by now.
Unrelatedly, Angela Yuzu shared a link in the FB fangroup to Oda's interview: http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2017/01/05/356/
His kids look up to Yuzu and want to become like Hanyu-kun~ The youngest one is too young to put into skating shoes yet, but Oda still shows him videos of Yuzu skating. Adorables.
And this video overlay of Yuzu's jump is so cool
His jumps are pure art!
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Hello I have some questions about figure skating and Yuzuru (sorry if they're really obvious ones)
1. Did Yuzuru start the first quad battle? And in what event with who?
2. Why is the axel jump so hard? Why can some do quads but not axel?
3. Why is the axel compulsory?
4. Why does the axel go so far compared to other jumps?
5. Why is the axel put on such a high pedestal- it seems like the best jump or something seeing as I saw people saying you aren't a real senior men's skater unless you can do a triple axel
5. What is a pure jump technique- how can a jump technique be dirty? And why is Yuzuru's pure?
Thank you very much!
1. Did Yuzuru start the first quad battle? And in what event with who?
2. Why is the axel jump so hard? Why can some do quads but not axel?
3. Why is the axel compulsory?
4. Why does the axel go so far compared to other jumps?
5. Why is the axel put on such a high pedestal- it seems like the best jump or something seeing as I saw people saying you aren't a real senior men's skater unless you can do a triple axel
5. What is a pure jump technique- how can a jump technique be dirty? And why is Yuzuru's pure?
Thank you very much!
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No.
'cause it has half a rotation more. 'cause it has a forward take-off, which many find tricky and anyway it's a totally different take off from all other backward jumps.
'cause it is what differentiate boy from man (or girl from woman), or so they say.
(same reasons as answer 2: it's mandatory because it has such a different take off and dynamic compared to other jumps. And in figure skating you should be able to show all different technique, axel one included)
I don't know what you mean, sorry.
See answer 2 or 3.
Ask Mishin! (good jump technique = text book technique on take off, height & distance reached, air position, landing. You can land and complete a jump even if your technique at take off is not the best, even if your air position is iffy, if you don't have a great height or distance, if your landing is less than perfect.)
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1. No, but it has become more frequent because of him
2. The mechanism of the jump requires a forward take off and in order for a skater to land on the back outside edge, an extra 1/2 rotation in the air is required (harder than it sounds). Also, because the skater is taking off on a forward edge, its that much more scarier to execute. Think of falling forward vs falling backwards.
3. Not sure, but I would assume because its the most difficult jump to execute and its to ensure that skaters will put the in effort to learn it. In juniors, there are two required jumps in the short program one of the being the axel as well. The other required jump will rotate every year and needs to be a solo jump (Flip,Lutz,Salchow,Loop)
4. It depends on the skater, since that's not always true.
5a. Because of the difficulty of the jump.
5b. Take off/spring, air position, and landing position. There is a generally accepted technique which is considered to be the most efficient and aesthetically pleasing. The general idea is a straight, tight position which keeps the rotation axis and lands with a running edge.
Examples of bad techniques:
See how he reaches down onto the ice during take off?
"Mule kick/Hammer toe" Where the free leg goes above her hip and she slams her toe pick onto the ice. (Yuna Kim also had a bit of a hammer toe despite her perfect lutz edge)
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1. No, but it has become more frequent because of him
2. The mechanism of the jump requires a forward take off and in order for a skater to land on the back outside edge, an extra 1/2 rotation in the air is required (harder than it sounds). Also, because the skater is taking off on a forward edge, its that much more scarier to execute. Think of falling forward vs falling backwards.
3. Not sure, but I would assume because its the most difficult jump to execute and its to ensure that skaters will put the effort to learn it. In juniors, there are two required jumps in the short program one of the being the axel as well. The other required jump will rotate every year and needs to be a solo jump (Flip,Lutz,Salchow,Loop)
4. It depends on the skater, since that's not always true.
5a. Because of the difficulty of the jump.
5b. Take off/spring, air position, and landing position. There is a generally accepted technique which is considered to be the most efficient and aesthetically pleasing. The general idea is a straight, tight, position which keeps the rotation axis and lands with a running edge.
Examples of bad techniques:
See how he reaches down onto the ice during take off?
"Mule kick/Hammer toe" Where the free leg goes above her hip and she slams her toe pick onto the ice. (Yuna Kim also had a bit of a hammer toe despite her perfect lutz edge)
Ok thank you! I'm not very good at expressing what I mean so sorry haha the axel jump just fascinates me because it seems to look so much bigger than the others
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1. Did Yuzuru start the first quad battle? And in what event with who?
Skaters who practice together have tried to do quad battle for years.
2. Why is the axel jump so hard? Why can some do quads but not axel?
The Axel technique is considered the hardest because of the forward take off from one foot, it has an extra 1/2 rotation compared to other jump technique. It needs strength from the upper body as much as good timing. It depends on the skaters to say if the Axel is hardest or not. It is not right to say "some can do quads but not axel". It is correct to say "some male skaters have less issue with quads than they have with 3A." With Yuzuru the 3A is clearly his strength. But to some other skaters, they do not like it.
3. Why is the axel compulsory?
Because it's considered the hardest basic jump technique.
4. Why does the axel go so far compared to other jumps?
It depends on the skaters. Some skaters jump across the ice and some jump up and down the ice. Some ladies have bigger 2A than some men's 3A (look at Adelina's 2A). Hanyan's 3A might be the longest but not the highest. Voronov might have the highest 3A in the field but not very long.
5. Why is the axel put on such a high pedestal- it seems like the best jump or something seeing as I saw people saying you aren't a real senior men's skater unless you can do a triple axel.
Because all top men can do 3A. It's just some are much better at it than other.
6. What is a pure jump technique- how can a jump technique be dirty? And why is Yuzuru's pure?
Pure jump technique: no hammer toe, no hunched back or leaning foward too much in the take-off, no wrong edge in either Lutz or Flip, no pre-rotation over ISU's instruction video, tight air position, clean backward landing without hook, no under-rotation, straight back in the landing, great flow and great speed in the landing with a curve.
When Yuzuru was younger, he used to have the wrong edge in the Flip but he has improved it vastly by now. His Flip has the acceptable edge now with no pre-rotation. His lutz is pure and also no pre-rotation. All of Yuzuru's toe jumps have the least pre-rotation. His edge jumps are even better than his toe jumps. His landings when he does well always has straight back with a lot of speed and flow.
Several top male skaters have great toe jumps (with no pre-rotation as well) but much weaker edge jumps and especially weaker 3A than Yuzuru. Some other top male skaters have very much wrong take off in the Flip and Lutz (we call it LoopFlip and LoopLutz), weaker 3A and jerky landings which might lead to bad knee in the future. Some of them have a chronic issue with landings of their quads when they land, their whole body shift to the right side heavily, their right hip rolls and has to support the whole body weight, it might lead to horrible hip in the future.
So yes, compared to all of them, Yuzuru has the most overall balanced and consistent jump technique in 6 types of jumps. His layout in the SP is quite balanced with 5 toe jumps and 6 edge jumps.
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I would also say the 3A is harder because there is no assist from the other leg. It is technique, height, and rotation. If you do it wrong you can do what they call, iirc, a waxel and you often fall in a very undignified manner. In a 4 toe, there is the assist with the other foot and sometimes really fast rotators can get the job done even without that much height. Some of the women have good triples, but weak 2As. Technique!
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Hello, these are really good questions, I’m not the best candidate to answer your questions but I will try to the best of my knowledge!
1. I think it all started organically at the 2015 ISU World championship gala.
2. The axel is the hardest jump in figure skating because of its takeoff and rotation. First of all, it is an edge jump. Second it requires and extra ½ revolution and you can’t pre-rotate because of its forward takeoff.
3. To see if your technique is good enough and to distinguish skaters (I think).
4. The technique is different from other jumps because you have to jump out (essentially throw yourself into the air) which is why it covers a lot of distance (ice), it is part of the reason why some skaters find it daunting.
5. Pure textbook perfect technique in terms of takeoff (difficult entries with many variation). Rotation (just the right amount of highest and distance plus air position). Landing (light landing with perfect back outside edge), and true champions (Like Yuzuru) can still land the jumps even when the first two parts gone wrong!
I hope this answers some of your questions!
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This is the earliest one I remember in competition gala. Its probably been done since the late 1990's/early 2000's in ice shows.
Russian split, and what looks to be a catch foot spiral
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This is the earliest one I remember in competition gala. Its probably been done since the late 1990's/early 2000's in ice shows.
Russian split, and what looks to be a catch foot spiral
Thanks for the correction :agree:
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