2017 Four Continents Men FS | Page 65 | Golden Skate

2017 Four Continents Men FS

Some really impressive skating here. Yuzu and Nathan, well done. Of course I'm biased towards Yuzu but I'll just watch his program on repeat several times and forget about placements. :biggrin:
 
Hanyu lost this competition because of the short. If he just skates a clean SP and no more than one pop in the LP, he can still beat a clean Nathan.

That is what I said to my family. Hanyu had a mistake in the short and if he didn't have that he would have definitely been first.
 
I can't believe that nonsense won.

But it's an excellent wake up call.
Skaters - forget steps, forget transitions, forget artistry. None of it matters. If your fed is big enough and you nail the quads you will get the PCS anyway! Learn! If you want to win, there you have it, the recipe how.

no, skaters cannot forget any of the things you listed
 
I'm impressed he didn't totally crumble skating last after Hanyu's near perfect free. The US finally has at least one skater who can withstand pressure and not melt randomly at big events.

Not to mention have the tech content to keep up with Yuzu, Shoma, Javi and Patrick. We haven't had an internationally competitive male skater since Evan Lysacek.
 
How on earth did Shoma get 91 for PCS with two falls? I mean when we look at the others, Chan get 92, Hanyu 94, Chen 88, Jin 77, Yan 78. Is Shoma with a bad skate really so close to Chan and that much better than Chen, Jin and Yan? Are the judges on crack?

Yes, he is. (And it wasn't a 'bad' skate)
No, they aren't.
 
6 points PCS difference between Yuzu and Nathan? Okay, that was a funny joke. Now give me the actual scores please.

I know right! They should have been no more than 5. :p

Let me guess, you think Hanyu and Chen are at least [insert exact number of points to give Hanyu the win] PCS differential. :rolleye:

That was an impressive show from the top three medalists. And yet again Chan and Jin are a hair apart!
 
Bitter? I suppose you would think so, if you thought that skate deserved 88 pcs. Heh.

It's not like Nathan won the long. It was won in the short-- where Yuzu popped a jump. There are only 3 jumps in the short. Yuzu doesn't pop in the short (and the long's are skated the same) then Yuzu wins. Sorry he didn't get keep it together in the short (remember he was third).
 
Man oh man. Those last two performances were intense!

When Hanyu came out, I could FEEL his determination. I think his SP is brilliant, his FS has been a snooze for me this season...but this time, I really thought he performed it, first half at least, with a kind of sensitivity that made me appreciate the music and performance more. I felt like he ran out of steam by the end--his 3A at the end was impressive.

Hanyu lost a HUGE amount of points by doubling that intended quad salchow combo. Rotating and falling gets you significantly more points than popping. Had he not popped either of the salchows in the SP and FS, he would be the winner overall. Or if he had turned them into triples at the very least. In this quad-heavy field, you just can't turn a quad into a double--twice.

Nathan wasn't quite as sharp as at US Nationals, too many messy landings, but he did enough, and I do like this program for him. After Hanyu delivered the performance that he did, I thought that we were really going to see what Nathan, skating after him, dead last, was made of. And after Nathan finished, before his scores, I thought that he showed that he has a champion's guts, even if he didn't win today. He didn't crumble. Awesome. Not easy to snatch victory from the reigning Olympic champion.

And he was very humble in the post-competition interview and was both appreciative and complimentary ("Everyone is beautiful...South Korea is beautiful!" -- laying it on a little thick, there, Nathan).

Amazing competition. Thought Uno skated really well, and I love Patrick's skating and program, even if he doesn't have the quad arsenal that the others do. Really glad that Patrick came back.
 
Though all three skates had tiny mistakes, but the podium was right.

Nathan had two turnouts in FS.
Yuzu did some medium mistakes, missing combos and popping quads.
Shoma fell on two triple axels.

And I think this is all that the judges were trying to accomplish. We might complain as diehard fans but to the casual fan this seems completely legitimate. I've given up on accuracy: I'm fine with these ordinals.
 
This kid is for real! In back to back competition he delivered. He has proven it wasn't just a lucky night at nationals.

He has what it takes to be an Olympic champ. Major congrats to US champ, Nathan Chen. He changed the play of the game; up the ante to FIVE QUADS. That's the men's GOLD STANDARD now.
 
Back
Top