Well, I can't go a whole day without contributing something to this post, can I? Like potato chips...
I am going to get pushback for this, but here goes (and since when has that ever stopped me

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Believe it or not, I am not the World's biggest Jason uber. I *am* the World's biggest Toller uber. I measure skaters against that standard: how many "Tollers" does that skater earn? I drifted away from watching skating consistently at the tail end of nineties, beginning of 2000's. I saw no Tollers.
There I was, one January, in 2014, just skimming the TV. Skating, what the heck. And then, a kid skating, who I had never heard of or ever seen before, earning five Tollers. I thought, I need to know more..... and because of that kid, I learned all about the other American men and here I am wasting time on skating boards
When he is *on*, Jason is five (out of five) Tollers. That is a rare gift and something you don't "learn". I am sorry, Nathan Chen on his best day with his SP this year, is maybe two Tollers. Maybe. He doesn't need more than two Tollers with all his jumps, but I am not going to pretend or accept that he has more just because he can jump.
And for those who say, well Nathan is young, and can learn, well I hope so. But another youngster, Deniss V. is four Tollers, verging on five. Deniss has the gift.
Vincent Zhou: no Tollers yet.
Maybe I'm living in the past. Hey, I'm married to a classics professor, it comes naturally.

but despite being a red blooded American, medals, medals, medals, records, records, records are not my thing. Not at the expense of "Tollers"