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2018 US Championships Sr Men FS

I just woke up and I'm devastated to see Adam messed up, there's something special about him and I wished he'd win silver.
I think they'll still go with Adam for the Olympic team - it's not like he's in a bad shape. This was like a fluke messy performance and he has plenty of receipts that he can do way better than that.

But boy did this competition bring the drama or what! God I love figure skating :popcorn:
 
wow, so this is Nathan's LP costume.... I thought from practice video it's his practice outfit :laugh:



Big downgrade, it makes him look juniorish
 
I don't see much of an issue in removing 2nd instead of 3rd. Nothing in the rules guarantees anything to either of them and either way you're going to be making big waves by not just going with the podium result, so you might as well make the best decision possible. I think it would be fine as well, though, if they do as some are suggesting and send Ross to the Olympics but not Worlds. The Olympics are more about honor and glory, but Worlds results hold so much sway over the next season and all performances are important, not just the medallists, so there's a stronger argument to send the most competitive team there.
 
Congratulations to Chen, Miner and Zhou for the podium finish!!!

I hope that this time USFSA will not ignore Zhou´s achievement while selecting the Olympic team like they did last year for Worlds. There was lots of noise about Nagasu and Wagner in 2014 Olympics selection, this could as well be seen as racism, IMO.

Miner had an awesome freeskate, I really loved it!!! In spite of that I think that perhaps Rippon should be selected for the Olympic team and Miner for the Worlds?

I liked Chen´s costume, it really suited him and felt very glad for his win although it was no surprise, LOL...

Maybe Brown could benefit from a more experienced team? It was madness to include the quad as he even cannot rotate his triple axels fully (if judged properly). Would have been a much better idea to really train the rotations of all his jumps, I think. He had a horribly hard fall in the quad attempt that must have affected the rest of his jumping a lot.

Nobody expected Miner to skate like that and that would include Rippon and Brown as well, I´d guess.
 
That was a while ago. Vincent is doing his own thing. Is Doug Ladret still over there?
Thanks for the Doug Ladret mention/update Mrs. P. Funny, I was thinking about how much I enjoyed his skating with Christine Hough a few days ago while re-watching "The Cutting Edge" film they appeared in. :)
 
well, Ross should be proud about coming to mess all the predictions.

I can't imagine what Ross is thinking. He is probably so thrilled with his skate and may be overwhelmed at the thought of having to do it again on the Olympic stage...
 
My guess:

Olympics
1- Nathan Chen
2-Ross Miner
3-Adam Rippon
Alt-Vincent Zhou
Alt-Jason Brown
Alt-Grant Hochstein

Worlds
1-Nathan Chen
2-Vincent Zhou
3-Adam Rippon
Alt-Ross Miner
Alt-Jason Brown
Alt-Grant Hochstein

4CC
1-Vincent Zhou
2-Jason Brown
3-Grant Hochstein
Alt-Timothy Dolensky
Alt-Max Aaron
Alt-Alexander Johnson
 
I hear Adam Rippon is Furious × 10.

But jokes aside, I can't believe how Rippon managed to fudge this up. Also, I really hope Rippon goes to Olympics while Zhou goes to Worlds. Following this season of his, I really don't see Zhou going clean at Olympics.
 
Finally watched the videos and of the last group Ross did have the skate of the night for me. It helps that I love this song too.

I feel like Vincent needs to work hard on rotating his quads before he considers placing so many in a program, but I actually quite enjoyed his FS this time. Since he had less visible mistakes outside of the UR landings, I could concentrate more on how he was really feeling his program and interpreting it well. Good job, kiddo.

Contrasting that to Nathan, who, despite going the cleanest in this FS since US Classic, seemed a lot more subdued in interpretation this time around (and as some have pointed out, late on the step sequence, which is actually my favorite bit in this program). I'm happy he managed to land all his non axel jumps, though, but I kinda miss the promise the FS had originally. Unfortunately, given all the commentators are always going about how they expect the hardest difficulty from Nathan and this was a basic watered down layout, the pressure to meet all those expectations will continue to interfere with the potential of the program.
I still love your SP, though, Nathan!

Jason's FS was beautiful and devastating at the same time. I'm still trying to recover.

And Adam... how... you didn't even seem that tired, why the first pop? The second pop just seemed like he'd given up and didn't even try. :(

Congratulations to the podium, you all were the deserved medalists. But as for the team selection, I'm far less certain about going by placements here. Seems like a disservice to Ross, who had the skate of his life, but since I've never felt like Nationals should be the be all and end all of a selection process, my preferred team would be Nathan, Vincent and Adam. Sadly, I don't think that, despite his strong season showing, Jason can be justifiably included with a 6th place... not over Vincent.
 
If Rippon was 3rd would they bump a 2nd place Miner for a 4th place Zhou? Because that's exactly what skipping over Zhou and bumping Miner for Rippon would be.
 
The more I see it, the more I don't see how the team isn't Nathan, Vincent, Adam. Based on every single competition including this one, GPs, senior B's, even Nats from last year (all of them are taken into consideration).

The big "issue" for USFS : Ross is 2nd and not 3rd. And let's face the reality : why are US nats judges giving those PCS, where some of them won't even dream to reach internationnally ?

I'd like it to be Nathan, Ross, Vincent ; but I don't even think that's remotely possible to see Ross on the team based on one performance. I don't even think he'll be send to worlds - he'll be 1st alternate maybe ?

Unless he does 4CC, Jason's season is over. And if he doesn't think about his TES - radical coaching change and everything - I don't think he'll be on the future world teams anytime soon. Harsh, but true, this is how competition works.
 
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS6ZUlpVwAAdmu8.jpg:large

I think this is a good breakdown of who should go. Make your own conclusions.

How would this work, do you get 1 point for each box you check or are they weighted by tiers?

Ironically it shakes out this way...
Brown t1-2, t2-1, t3-2 for 5 total
Zhou t1-1, t2-0, t3-3 for 4 total
Rippon t1-1, t2-1, t3-1 for 3 total
Miner t1-1, t2-0, t3-0 for 1 total

Now if the tiers are weighted differently...
 
How would this work, do you get 1 point for each box you check or are they weighted by tiers?

Ironically it shakes out this way...
Brown t1-2, t2-1, t3-2 for 5 total
Zhou t1-1, t2-0, t3-3 for 4 total
Rippon t1-1, t2-1, t3-1 for 3 total
Miner t1-1, t2-0, t3-0 for 1 total

Now if the tiers are weighted differently...

Sending someone who is 6th at his nationals is not going to do it anyway, people will riot. I don't know if it's weighed differently, how i can be though...
 
Gah are you trying to fill me with the specter of multiple ice dance falls like 2006 Olympics Original Dance :eeking:? Okay, maybe you can have Andrew Poje all to yourself for a while. Well, then again:luv17:. Aha, this is a plot to jinx US ice dancing teams to benefit W/P. Trying to think of a way to complain about this ;) :laugh:. I do love US ID teams of course.

Then the iguana, voodoo dress of Madi Chock will earn them a win, Zach & Madi H will melt the ice resulting in another team falling (what is the draw order?), or the Shibs will be unable to stop twizzling and will take off like helicopters on their way upwards to wherever there free dance is describing...
 
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